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Post by Meeeh on Apr 6, 2024 5:39:52 GMT
Does anyone know what is the max level of troops you can upgrade? I heard it's lvl 14 for now. Max LV 20
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Post by Airi Momoi on Apr 6, 2024 5:49:40 GMT
Heya, so I got good news and bad news for you:
Let's start with the bad news - Great Conqueror 2: Shogun is a gacha game. This means to obtain generals, we have to do pulls, which is when we spend magatama to get fragments of generals to assemble into the useable general themself or upgrade an already obtained general. The problem is that these pulls are random. Which means there is almost nothing we can do to influence the game to obtain the "best" generals. The only guaranteed generals are Kinoshita Hideyoshi (and his evolved skins), Maeda Keiji (he's pulled in the gacha tutorial), the himes (obtained by purchasing their castle in Tenkabito mode and then doing their tasks to completion, you'll know you're done when you get brought to a battle), and any IAPs you purchased.
But, the good news is for the most part, you can get by in the early stages of campaign with a sub-par team, and that basically everyone with a purple or gold background are good in their own right. You don't actually need your dream team right off the bat, or else we'd all be uninstalling and reinstalling the game until we get a desirable gacha seed. And, turns out there is a way to influence the luck for gold generals in particular, and there is a way to guarantee a gacha general.
Let's start with influencing luck: the banners. Like any good gacha game, GCS has banners in which drop rates are slightly adjusted for featured units. In GCS, these only affect gold generals, and they seem to affect the luck only slightly, but if you're attempting to get Date Masamune (in my opinion, the best teppo general), pulling Kanto Alliance will make him more likely to appear than the normal recruitment banner on the top. You can tap "View Details" on each of the banners to see the probablities and you can tap the "Probability Increased" button right above "View Details" to see which generals are affected. This is minor but if you're lucky enough you can get a case where if you pulled a normal banner, you would have received one general, but pulling the focus banner gives the general you want.
Now, the second and more reliable way on getting generals you want is sparking for them. This is where you tap the blue flame button labelled "Exchange" on the bottom next to the handbook while on the gacha screen.
This will pop up a screen that will allow you to exchange blue flames for fragments of generals. Blue flames are obtainable by pulling the gacha, with the rate being 1 blue flame per pull. So clicking the 10 pull will give 10 flames. These flames are exchanged at a rate of 5 flames per purple fragment and 10 flames per gold fragment, meaning with some quick math to spark a general completely from scratch without any initial fragments require 300 pulls for a gold and 150 pulls for a purple (30 ten pulls and 15 ten pulls respectively), since each general requires 30 fragments to obtain. Fully sparking from scratch is kinda a last minute panic move due to its cost though, and ideally you'll obtain the golds through the gacha. Purples it's more likely that you'll get ~25ish fragments from pulls, meaning you can spark the last few for much less. There is an argument though for saving up your blue flames until you can manually spark Mori Motonari or Date Masamune, so how you handle your blue flame exchange really depends on what your goals are.
Essentially, as a tl;dr: the strategy I recommend is to just wing it since your general choice is based on mostly luck. But if you want to rig it a little in your favor, only pull on favorable banners that prefer the gold general you're truly aiming for, and either use your blue flames to obtain purples that you have a partial collection of fragments for or save up until you can spark the best golds/purples that you want.
Good luck, and hopefully Lady Luck and the gacha gods smile upon you!
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Apr 6, 2024 8:09:18 GMT
To add on, you might want to save 100 magatama for a rate-up that comes monthly. This ensures that you get a gold gen in the worst-case scenario due to the pity system. I don't remember if it applies to a gold gen or at least one the gen(s) on rate-up.
But continuing to pull (meaning to pull until you get a / the gold gen from the banner or run out) means that you'll get your green gens to 6* sooner.
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Post by stoic on Apr 6, 2024 9:57:19 GMT
I think it is possible to add that sending your favorite generals on missions is also very helpful in the long run. My Shibata is close to 6* now though I wasn't particularly lucky with his fragments.
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Post by Theron of Acragas on Apr 6, 2024 10:13:52 GMT
To add on, you might want to save 100 magatama for a rate-up that comes monthly. This ensures that you get a gold gen in the worst-case scenario due to the pity system. I don't remember if it applies to a gold gen or at least one the gen(s) on rate-up. But continuing to pull (meaning to pull until you get a / the gold gen from the banner or run out) means that you'll get your green gens to 6* sooner. I'm not sure this is true/meaningful. You're guaranteed a gold every 100 draws in any case. The significance of the events is that they increase the probability of drawing certain golds rather than the other golds. Which can still be worthwhile, if you're trying to unlock Date, but early on you're better off in any case just drawing to get more generals unlocked.
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Post by verily on Apr 7, 2024 4:32:38 GMT
I think it is possible to add that sending your favorite generals on missions is also very helpful in the long run. My Shibata is close to 6* now though I wasn't particularly lucky with his fragments. i have max mori 6 stars, i always use him for special/solo missions for broken fragments. also i pull on regular banner and test it reload with rate up. and the gold general changes, ex: regular: tokugawa, reload to rate up: akeichi. but its also random. i got all f2p gold using this method. using 100+ magatama(include using banki). its really up to rng. also i think your pull changes with update
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Post by stoic on Apr 7, 2024 6:00:45 GMT
I think it is possible to add that sending your favorite generals on missions is also very helpful in the long run. My Shibata is close to 6* now though I wasn't particularly lucky with his fragments. i have max mori 6 stars, i always use him for special/solo missions for broken fragments. also i pull on regular banner and test it reload with rate up. and the gold general changes, ex: regular: tokugawa, reload to rate up: akeichi. but its also random. i got all f2p gold using this method. using 100+ magatama(include using banki). its really up to rng. also i think your pull changes with update When a player is in the game long enough he has absolutely every general or close to it, I believe. Thanks to library chapters I have promoted Mori, Date and Chosokabe to 6* quite a long time ago. Now I have a luxury to send on daily missions (with fragments as rewards) my second team generals such as Shibata, Honda etc. And I believe that I promote Hijo to 6* in no time as well. And I still haven't played majority of challenge conquests. So, the game is very generous in this respect. Without doing anything extraordinary you can collect fragments of every general you like (and quite often to promote him to higher ranks too).
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Post by jonblend on Apr 7, 2024 11:07:19 GMT
I think that getting your core generals up to lv3 is really enough to beat the game. Promoting to 6* is only for BB farming and for us to have something to do while waiting for future updates:) That being said, I'm currently working on this beast (+32% crit chance B-) )
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Post by Meeehh on Apr 8, 2024 3:12:07 GMT
I think that getting your core generals up to lv3 is really enough to beat the game. Promoting to 6* is only for BB farming and for us to have something to do while waiting for future updates:) That being said, I'm currently working on this beast (+32% crit chance B-) ) I recommend to use tenka-fubu equipment set on this general and use tanegashima teppo unit to maximum damage dealt 50% and crit with additional 20% skill cooldown reduction after an attack....bye-bye meeeh
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Post by jonblend on Apr 12, 2024 19:27:56 GMT
I think that getting your core generals up to lv3 is really enough to beat the game. Promoting to 6* is only for BB farming and for us to have something to do while waiting for future updates:) That being said, I'm currently working on this beast (+32% crit chance B-) ) I recommend to use tenka-fubu equipment set on this general and use tanegashima teppo unit to maximum damage dealt 50% and crit with additional 20% skill cooldown reduction after an attack....bye-bye meeeh We have to keep in mind that Shigehide gets only the items that are not used on Date Masamune. And I think that having a guaranteed 3 turns cooldown is better than 4 turns with a ~50% chance (0.8^3=0.512) of not getting the reduction to trigger in time.
Changing the unit to tanegashima teppo is a valid point though, it has better offensive stats which is all we want from musket troops.
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