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Post by yuanzhong on Jan 11, 2019 5:25:55 GMT
Vatutin: I don't think I need more tank when I have 4 "best" (IMO) tank already. And I think Vatutin < Montgomery when full upgrade (better movement, air stars, better combination of skills) Nagumo >< Mountbatten: Who's better? I prefer Nagumo, better Navy stars and Shelter cover the main weakness of Cruiser and Carrier. Yamashita: I think he's the best very long time before I reconsider Runstedt, same 3 best skill for Inf then Ace + Bayonet Charge vs Elastic Defence + Street Fighting + 5 star Air, Air is the most important part for quick conquest 1980, you don't need pure Inf gens for Campaign and Daily Invasion (Zhukov is very very strong Inf in Invasion with buffed Crossfire), still have 2 last exercises not yet done so I don't know you need pure Inf like Yamashita for them or not (already clear Hudson Bay w.o pure Inf). Sorry, my bad. You just have so many generals haha. In that case, Montgomery is definitely a sure bet. Plus he has 5 stars in air force. But as you mentioned you do not need another tank general. In the conversation between Nagumo and Mountbatten, it is really just asking whether want maxed out shelter or maxed out ship depot. I think they are equally good. You can give Mountbatten a shot as he is usually meh in most games. Kuznetsov is also on par with the two but he loses that additional skill slot. Yamashita is a good one for speed running conquest. Monty, Leeb, Yamashita, Nagumo, and Mountbatten would all be great choices. Pick which ever ones you want. Runstedt vs Yamashita. I think Runstedl is better for speed running conquest when you capture suitable city (like Berlin with lv2 Missile) you can use him as Air general immediately (no need for additional Air gen and you can save slot for another area or put another tank gen instead of air gen to push at beginning). |
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Post by stoic on Jan 11, 2019 6:15:24 GMT
Sorry, my bad. You just have so many generals haha. In that case, Montgomery is definitely a sure bet. Plus he has 5 stars in air force. But as you mentioned you do not need another tank general. In the conversation between Nagumo and Mountbatten, it is really just asking whether want maxed out shelter or maxed out ship depot. I think they are equally good. You can give Mountbatten a shot as he is usually meh in most games. Kuznetsov is also on par with the two but he loses that additional skill slot. Yamashita is a good one for speed running conquest. Monty, Leeb, Yamashita, Nagumo, and Mountbatten would all be great choices. Pick which ever ones you want. Runstedt vs Yamashita. I think Runstedl is better for speed running conquest when you capture suitable city (like Berlin with lv2 Missile) you can use him as Air general immediately (no need for additional Air gen and you can save slot for another area or put another tank gen instead of air gen to push at beginning). Theoretically you are right, especially taking into account that we have many war theatres, but practically it would be difficult to beat Max Otto von Stierlitz' records nevertheless  . Besides Yamashita can work together with Dowding on one war theatre (perhaps a secondary one), because we can use thus Yamashita's attacking skills and Dowding's gathering. For Modern war campaigns/conquest Infantry is useless anyway. |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Jan 11, 2019 11:38:32 GMT
Runstedt vs Yamashita. I think Runstedl is better for speed running conquest when you capture suitable city (like Berlin with lv2 Missile) you can use him as Air general immediately (no need for additional Air gen and you can save slot for another area or put another tank gen instead of air gen to push at beginning). Theoretically you are right, especially taking into account that we have many war theatres, but practically it would be difficult to beat Max Otto von Stierlitz' records nevertheless . Besides Yamashita can work together with Dowding on one war theatre (perhaps a secondary one), because we can use thus Yamashita's attacking skills and Dowding's gathering. For Modern war campaigns/conquest Infantry is useless anyway. Hmm not really infantry can be useful in 1980 conquests where empty cities can be brought to 0 health by infantry generals and then parasniped |
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Post by stoic on Jan 11, 2019 16:11:15 GMT
Theoretically you are right, especially taking into account that we have many war theatres, but practically it would be difficult to beat Max Otto von Stierlitz' records nevertheless . Besides Yamashita can work together with Dowding on one war theatre (perhaps a secondary one), because we can use thus Yamashita's attacking skills and Dowding's gathering. For Modern war campaigns/conquest Infantry is useless anyway. Hmm not really infantry can be useful in 1980 conquests where empty cities can be brought to 0 health by infantry generals and then parasniped Usually Infantry generals don't have enough HPs to do any significant job in the Modern war, and to destroy empty cities' defense is too modest task anyway, in my opinion... It was a painful experience by any standards  , but Infantry generals are too fragile to meet terrorists... |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Jan 12, 2019 5:32:50 GMT
Hmm not really infantry can be useful in 1980 conquests where empty cities can be brought to 0 health by infantry generals and then parasniped Usually Infantry generals don't have enough HPs to do any significant job in the Modern war, and to destroy empty cities' defense is too modest task anyway, in my opinion... It was a painful experience by any standards , but Infantry generals are too fragile to meet terrorists... Agreed, their only use is for speed runs, not for confronting enemy generals, or any 1980 terrorist units in particular. |
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Jan 12, 2019 12:53:42 GMT
I have Timoshenko, Leeb and Patton. Timoshenko is good as first gen, but now you don't need him for sure. Leeb is not so useful, but he's the best artillery after Konev. Patton not so good too, but he's the best tank gen you don't have. About Patton, how about Montgomery (the best version among all ET WWII games) I have chosen Patton to get 18 speed on medium tank for speedruns. Montgomery has 1 speed less, which in most cases make him move 1 hex slower. |
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Post by unnamed356 on Jan 13, 2019 7:53:59 GMT
I had to replay WC4 because at first time i spent too much medals on resources and didn't buy gens by "nice" order. Now i'm finishing this game, only 2 last exercises and 9 UN hard (don't have much time now to play them). This is my team. Just wonder who's next, I'm collector - player and want to have full 15 gens with balance team. Please give your opinion. Thanks   You only have 2 arty so get Leeb so you will have the 3 best arty gens. Then the remaining two can have high movement speed so that they can be situationally deployed in speed runs I guess a pure infantry would be fun since you have no pure inf gens |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Jan 13, 2019 13:00:41 GMT
I had to replay WC4 because at first time i spent too much medals on resources and didn't buy gens by "nice" order. Now i'm finishing this game, only 2 last exercises and 9 UN hard (don't have much time now to play them). This is my team. Just wonder who's next, I'm collector - player and want to have full 15 gens with balance team. Please give your opinion. Thanks You only have 2 arty so get Leeb so you will have the 3 best arty gens. Then the remaining two can have high movement speed so that they can be situationally deployed in speed runs I guess a pure infantry would be fun since you have no pure inf gens yamashita ftw, but well if you really want speed then i guess macarthur is better suited... |
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. Besides Yamashita can work together with Dowding on one war theatre (perhaps a secondary one), because we can use thus Yamashita's attacking skills and Dowding's gathering. For Modern war campaigns/conquest Infantry is useless anyway.
, but Infantry generals are too fragile to meet terrorists...
