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Post by yuanzhong on Feb 16, 2019 10:39:42 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2019 12:32:44 GMT
Unless you play as the Ottomans or French in 1815 or 1812 conquests, so you can have a free Napoleon or Free Mahmud with max aura ability. And all you have to do is just run your forces towards the ally Napoleon or Mahmud, and place John in a nearby Mountain Jungle. Try it if you want  I tried but distance is too long; and you meet many enemies, when you reach, your target already die. And MahmudI in 1812 and 1815 has AM at lvl3, 10 pts within 1 range, very annoying to make formation, it's not worth. This is your John with 4 auras and his damage with max Louise. 1 hour for it because I don't have John and Alex I.
  So he's damage can still go further huh. I'll probably buy Napoleon just to test this out, or just skip Napoleon. So he does have the potential to have the most damage in the game. |
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Post by yuanzhong on Feb 16, 2019 13:17:19 GMT
Try it if you want I tried but distance is too long; and you meet many enemies, when you reach, your target already die. And MahmudI in 1812 and 1815 has AM at lvl3, 10 pts within 1 range, very annoying to make formation, it's not worth. This is your John with 4 auras and his damage with max Louise. 1 hour for it because I don't have John and Alex I.
So he's damage can still go further huh. I'll probably buy Napoleon just to test this out, or just skip Napoleon. So he does have the potential to have the most damage in the game. It's hard to increase damage (atk can be increased) unless you reach last tier unit. You can see that with Napoleon + MahmuhII, you get 30 additional atk but Tzar Cannon atk is 105 while Siege Art atk is 95 => with 20 from AlexI you get same result in atk (95+30 = 105+20) (your 3 gens aura and addtional percentage are same in both case) |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2019 13:23:34 GMT
So he's damage can still go further huh. I'll probably buy Napoleon just to test this out, or just skip Napoleon. So he does have the potential to have the most damage in the game. It's hard to increase damage (atk can be increased) unless you reach last tier unit. You can see that with Napoleon + MahmuhII, you get 30 additional atk but Tzar Cannon atk is 105 while Siege Art atk is 95 => with 20 from AlexI you get same result in atk (95+30 = 105+20) (your 3 gens aura and addtional percentage are same in both case) That's true, but it's possible to ever so slightly raise his attack a little bit more. But yeah, wonder which General can beat his damage ( i doubt there would be one ), maybe Blucher in a tank. |
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Post by yuanzhong on Feb 16, 2019 13:42:29 GMT
It's hard to increase damage (atk can be increased) unless you reach last tier unit. You can see that with Napoleon + MahmuhII, you get 30 additional atk but Tzar Cannon atk is 105 while Siege Art atk is 95 => with 20 from AlexI you get same result in atk (95+30 = 105+20) (your 3 gens aura and addtional percentage are same in both case) That's true, but it's possible to ever so slightly raise his attack a little bit more. But yeah, wonder which General can beat his damage ( i doubt there would be one ), maybe Blucher in a tank. Damage or attack  If damage, Blucher, Murat and even Karl can beat John (with his crit). |
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Post by Cyrus the Great on Feb 16, 2019 14:00:42 GMT
She is better than Sophia because even though Sophia is good on palace a 20% damage reduction still won't save you in the Crimean War challenge. She won't save you, but she'll allow your units to hit 2-3 more times before they fall. Well some of those attacks are when the gen is about to die. Let's say we attack 15 times in a challenge. And on average we get 150 dmg in. 15 times 150 is 2,250 total attack. 2250 times 1.25 is a total of 2812.5 total dmg from that gen, not including counterattack. Alright, since it saves average 2.5 attacks with Sophia, 2,250 +250 is 2,500 attack, less than Louise. Unless you can use more than 1 princess use Louise instead. Also, Sophia is a great general as well. 15 times is my average times I attack and with cavalry that's my attack average. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2019 14:45:35 GMT
Damage or attack If damage, Blucher, Murat and even Karl can beat John (with his crit). Attack. If damage, Blucher and Murat can definitely out damage John. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2019 14:55:12 GMT
She won't save you, but she'll allow your units to hit 2-3 more times before they fall. Well some of those attacks are when the gen is about to die. Let's say we attack 15 times in a challenge. And on average we get 150 dmg in. 15 times 150 is 2,250 total attack. 2250 times 1.25 is a total of 2812.5 total dmg from that gen, not including counterattack. Alright, since it saves average 2.5 attacks with Sophia, 2,250 +250 is 2,500 attack, less than Louise. Unless you can use more than 1 princess use Louise instead. Also, Sophia is a great general as well. 15 times is my average times I attack and with cavalry that's my attack average. Agreed. I simply use Sophia to hold on important cities with militia, while i send my units to capture other cities or complete objectives. But in smaller maps in challenges and campaigns, Louise is useful, especially when the objective is killing particular units. I find it that Sophia is more useful when your enemies are swarming you, and you still have to buy time to train units, so preventing them from capturing the city is more important than offensive, and you lack any sort of damage to stop the swarming of enemy units, a particular case being the Roman Unification. Although, to be fair, i used both of them, it's just that i used Sophia first before Louise. |
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Post by Cyrus the Great on Feb 17, 2019 17:35:18 GMT
yuanzhong, your screen shots are very nice. Have you tried using special units like the Krupp Cannon or Redshirt? Because the total damage they get I will count as well. It can be damage from anything in EW6.
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Post by yuanzhong on Feb 17, 2019 23:10:44 GMT
yuanzhong, your screen shots are very nice. Have you tried using special units like the Krupp Cannon or Redshirt? Because the total damage they get I will count as well. It can be damage from anything in EW6. The only special unit I can do is Tzar cannon because I can completely control all aura gens I need to make high atk. U need at least about 12 turns to make special unit and at that time AI aura gen can be died or move far away... I spent 1 hour try to make my 4 art aura gens (Ottoman) come to AI Napoleon but fail. Very annoying. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 1:31:32 GMT
So it is possible to reach such attack. He's gonna be critting for around 600 damage, damn. |
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Post by yuanzhong on Feb 18, 2019 2:00:24 GMT
So it is possible to reach such attack. He's gonna be critting for around 600 damage, damn. In my case 5 auras and no Louise make 388 damage , I think maximum about 450 to 500 for low health Cavalvry + Critical+ Louise. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 2:45:33 GMT
So it is possible to reach such attack. He's gonna be critting for around 600 damage, damn. In my case 5 auras and no Louise make 388 damage , I think maximum about 450 to 500 for low health Cavalvry + Critical+ Louise. The only unit that monster Karl can't one hit are tanks, armoured cars, iron clads and generals. |
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I tried but distance is too long; and you meet many enemies, when you reach, your target already die. And MahmudI in 1812 and 1815 has AM at lvl3, 10 pts within 1 range, very annoying to make formation, it's not worth.
If damage, Blucher, Murat and even Karl can beat John (with his crit).
