Detailed Explanation for my Strategy in myRecentWorldRecords
Apr 19, 2019 15:37:14 GMT
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Apr 19, 2019 15:37:14 GMT
Hi all, in case you were wondering after checking the General Chain of command thread for world records, I have broken 6 new records(all from Max Otto von Stierlitz lol) in these past 2 months. To settle some questions, prevent spam in the earlier mentioned thread and to help eager members to try their hands at conquest speed runs too, I will proceed to give a detailed explanation of how my strategy worked for those records broken. Pardon me if I have forgotten some specific points as it was quite long ago and I had to really try hard to remember what I did. Anyways...
Read more: european-war-4.boards.net/thread/7072/world-conqueror-4-records#ixzz5lYH1i3Nw
1st record: 1950 USA Conquest, Fastest Conquest with Generals
My score: 19 turns
Previous record: 24 turns
Factor needed: Play as USA instead of France, and have lots of luck with NATO in Europe! Used full technology.
Generals used: Nimitz, Yamashita, Arnold, Dowding, Guderian and Rommel.
Dowding for income back in new york
Brief strategy: I sent all my troops nearest to asia towards japan and the PRC. Fletcher to lower hk health when I took it in turn 2, and defended hk ferociously. Eisenhower and arnold on super carriers, where arnold bombed the siberian city with missiles first before joining eisenhower and nimitz on a double cruiser in lowering city health. Macarthur rushed to thailand first to aid uk and france, then took it and sped up to defend Hanoi before helping against China. Other land units sent to land in china by sea. Clark and tank to go to russia via japan. Alaskan troops sent to capture the nearest Russian city then push westwards down. First I targeted shanghai to pound my cruisers on, and paratrooped it. Strategic bombers from super carriers used to bomb chongking and wuhan so I can paratroop from hanoi or hongkong. Occupying these two cities will halt spam counter attacks by the PRC on thailand, and ensure me easy access to the less protected cities on china's western flank. Afterwards, heavy defense of shanghai and hk is key where I get help from the ROC who survived thanks to my interference. Dont bother defending south kore, just parasnipe it or when it gets defeated shower missiles and take seoul. Defeat north korea asap with your cruisers, and defend them from the PRC. When I took shenyang by cruisers, I used missiles to take the siberian and manchurian cities from china and the ussr.
When I amassed enough resources, got one atomic bomb and when nanking had a weak unit, I spammed missiles and took it asap. At that point, my carrier generals would have been continuing to attack the other cities, and my cruiser general to lower enemy land generals health. Afterwards, mongolia would have sent a huge spam towards me, but leaving their 2 cities undefended. Using shanghai I used missiles on ulan bator, then parasniped it. Building an airport, I next took the last mongolian city, and defeated mongolia with most of their spam left. Now I was left with China, with still a huge army and many strong generals left, but precariously with a few weak western cities. Moved all units west, but just took the cities in one turn with missiles or fighters, ensuring a fast and decisive defeat of the PRC. Afterwards I sent units to mop up the ussr with fast mechanized generals.
Now onto the european and african front, I first defeated cuba within 6 or less turns with pushing all units front, using bradley to take havana from us land and then rushing him to africa, then taking and occupying the last cuban city with nimitz on super carrier and naval unit given from start on the move towards the metiderranean city. Spawned Rommel on a super heavy tank in washington. Afterwards, rushed rommel to egypt, then others lead by bradley to europe from south of france to repel the ussr and poland. For my territories in africa I ignored the russian city with a bunker next to it(easily taken by allies), and rushed all troops to take ethiopia from the ussr. Afterwards I parasniped Alexandra, and then from there Parasniped athens. This step is v impt to get done fast, cuz at athens in greece i spawned guderian in his triple stacked heavy tank to take care of the balkan states. Dont fret if you lose alexandra or fail the african front, as I used rommel to rekt egypt and then land in the middle east. Priority at the start should be quickly defeating Thailand, North Korea, Mongolia and then the PRC with all its allies gone(in systematic order, left out the ussr as they dun really care, and all bagramyan and kuznetsov do is to lower tokyo hp for me to easily take it for income). Europe comes later at turn 11 or so onwards. Guderian wiped out Bulgaria(fully upgraded with lvl 5 explosives, but no upgraded hp), romania and hungary, which eased the europe spam on france abit, and took near ussr cities like kiev and donetsk. Poland was slightly hard, but with parasniping riga to spam missiles it was manageable to defeat poland in 3 turns. USSR took all baltic states but I easily recaptured them with missiles from riga, and nato was of big help in resisting the spam and defending holland and belgium. Luck was a huge factor here as most of the time nato will just crumble and wto will steamroll through france way before guderian reaches poland. Also I took invaded turkey with missiles.
After key points in europe were taken, the other ussr cities were taken with missiles to prevent spam, and at this point my asian troops would have reached and I can nuke and take moscow, where stealth strategic bombers mop up the rest of ussr cities relatively cheaply. When China fell, I sent some troops led by macarthur to the middle east, rushing past the middles eastern troops attacking burma and attacking iran and iraq. Yamashita was used to mop up ussr cities. When the only enemies left were the middle east wtos, rommel had already defeated egypt and invaded syria. Last two nations of iran and iraq fell to missiles and troops. This is the best as I can recall, and if needed I can post pictures of my vague strategy done, but yep I dont think my record is fabulous, just that Max Otto von Stierlitz used france instead of usa, and easier option.
Key points in the conquest: nanking, ulan bator, athens, riga, moscow
Key events: Defeat of mongolia(prc has no support), defeat of prc(wiped off 20 plus strong troops still left), guderian's conquest of the balkan states, macarthur's invasion of iran and the missile spam of ussr cities using riga
2nd and 3rd record: 1939 Fastest 1 star Country Speed Conquest With Generals, and Highest 1939 Record Score. (as egypt)
My score: 31 turns
267315 highscore
Previous record: 33 turns
240000(or smth i forgot) highscore
Factor needed: As shown from the minimal turn difference, LUCK. For me was very lucky on my first try where the allies resisted japan. Used full technology.
Generals used: Yamashita, dowding, konev, rokossovsky, nimitz, vatutin, rommel, guderian. Dowding to generate income in Cairo.
Brief Strategy(very vague since i forgotten a lot): Sent a unit speeding to europe from the middle east in order to take an open city. Spawned guderian in a triple stacked medium tank, and konev in a double stacked howitzer, with rokossovsky, rommel and yamashita on a commando to support in europe. First I use nasser to easily take africa(no need to elaborate as v ez). Navy should rush to occupy enemy ports to prevent enamy naval spam, and I spawned Nimitz in a double cruiser. After defeating the italian and spanish naval spam I focused on using nimitz to weaken spanish cities near coast for me to invade. At the start I sent a paratrooped mech infantry to asia to resist the japanese, took thailand hongkong, wuhan, chongking and spawned triple stacked medium tank for vatutin to take nanking, peking, shanghai and then pyongyang and seoul. Mainland japanese cities wekaned with double cruisers from stolen ports.
Back to europe, guderian and konev easily defeated bulgaria, hungary and romania before the italian spam with messe and graziani came. Easily confused them with rumour, and defeated them. Yamashita and Guderian with rommel to take back poland and germany with Berlin taken asap, and then konev and rokossovsky to take italy and push up on germany before france can be run over. Nasser was sent upwards to occupy rome but didnt do much. Im very sorry if my explanation is trash ahhaha, but its really cuz i forgot a lot and the strategy isnt really specific or genius. Just take cities fast with generals, and defend cities scantily with armoured cars or light infantry. When germany was near defeat sent yamashita racing to asia to take the last japanese city, and could have improved my score by 1 turn if i had sent yamashita to help in asia when germany's counter attacks had ceased. My memory is better with the 1943 version of egypt which i will explain later, since they both follow pretty much the same strategy, and i got this 1939 one in 1 try whilst the 1943 version in more than 20 tries before I finally took it after trying for 4 months plus.
Key points in the conquest: Krakow, athens, berlin, thailand, nanking, seoul, tokyo
key events: ploughing through the balkans with guderian, ussr carrying me in the northern european front, occupying major japanese cities, and easily taking tokyo to strategic bomb everyone
Welp rather tired now since its nighttime
will explain the last 3 records tmr.
Best way to break 2 records in one go: challenge the one star speed runs as they give more points to have a better highscore. For Max Otto von Stierlitz if u want to challenge this record luck is the only factor for you since you already have much better upgrades and generals than I have lel
Read more: european-war-4.boards.net/thread/7072/world-conqueror-4-records#ixzz5lYH1i3Nw
1st record: 1950 USA Conquest, Fastest Conquest with Generals
My score: 19 turns
Previous record: 24 turns
Factor needed: Play as USA instead of France, and have lots of luck with NATO in Europe! Used full technology.
Generals used: Nimitz, Yamashita, Arnold, Dowding, Guderian and Rommel.
Dowding for income back in new york
Brief strategy: I sent all my troops nearest to asia towards japan and the PRC. Fletcher to lower hk health when I took it in turn 2, and defended hk ferociously. Eisenhower and arnold on super carriers, where arnold bombed the siberian city with missiles first before joining eisenhower and nimitz on a double cruiser in lowering city health. Macarthur rushed to thailand first to aid uk and france, then took it and sped up to defend Hanoi before helping against China. Other land units sent to land in china by sea. Clark and tank to go to russia via japan. Alaskan troops sent to capture the nearest Russian city then push westwards down. First I targeted shanghai to pound my cruisers on, and paratrooped it. Strategic bombers from super carriers used to bomb chongking and wuhan so I can paratroop from hanoi or hongkong. Occupying these two cities will halt spam counter attacks by the PRC on thailand, and ensure me easy access to the less protected cities on china's western flank. Afterwards, heavy defense of shanghai and hk is key where I get help from the ROC who survived thanks to my interference. Dont bother defending south kore, just parasnipe it or when it gets defeated shower missiles and take seoul. Defeat north korea asap with your cruisers, and defend them from the PRC. When I took shenyang by cruisers, I used missiles to take the siberian and manchurian cities from china and the ussr.
When I amassed enough resources, got one atomic bomb and when nanking had a weak unit, I spammed missiles and took it asap. At that point, my carrier generals would have been continuing to attack the other cities, and my cruiser general to lower enemy land generals health. Afterwards, mongolia would have sent a huge spam towards me, but leaving their 2 cities undefended. Using shanghai I used missiles on ulan bator, then parasniped it. Building an airport, I next took the last mongolian city, and defeated mongolia with most of their spam left. Now I was left with China, with still a huge army and many strong generals left, but precariously with a few weak western cities. Moved all units west, but just took the cities in one turn with missiles or fighters, ensuring a fast and decisive defeat of the PRC. Afterwards I sent units to mop up the ussr with fast mechanized generals.
Now onto the european and african front, I first defeated cuba within 6 or less turns with pushing all units front, using bradley to take havana from us land and then rushing him to africa, then taking and occupying the last cuban city with nimitz on super carrier and naval unit given from start on the move towards the metiderranean city. Spawned Rommel on a super heavy tank in washington. Afterwards, rushed rommel to egypt, then others lead by bradley to europe from south of france to repel the ussr and poland. For my territories in africa I ignored the russian city with a bunker next to it(easily taken by allies), and rushed all troops to take ethiopia from the ussr. Afterwards I parasniped Alexandra, and then from there Parasniped athens. This step is v impt to get done fast, cuz at athens in greece i spawned guderian in his triple stacked heavy tank to take care of the balkan states. Dont fret if you lose alexandra or fail the african front, as I used rommel to rekt egypt and then land in the middle east. Priority at the start should be quickly defeating Thailand, North Korea, Mongolia and then the PRC with all its allies gone(in systematic order, left out the ussr as they dun really care, and all bagramyan and kuznetsov do is to lower tokyo hp for me to easily take it for income). Europe comes later at turn 11 or so onwards. Guderian wiped out Bulgaria(fully upgraded with lvl 5 explosives, but no upgraded hp), romania and hungary, which eased the europe spam on france abit, and took near ussr cities like kiev and donetsk. Poland was slightly hard, but with parasniping riga to spam missiles it was manageable to defeat poland in 3 turns. USSR took all baltic states but I easily recaptured them with missiles from riga, and nato was of big help in resisting the spam and defending holland and belgium. Luck was a huge factor here as most of the time nato will just crumble and wto will steamroll through france way before guderian reaches poland. Also I took invaded turkey with missiles.
After key points in europe were taken, the other ussr cities were taken with missiles to prevent spam, and at this point my asian troops would have reached and I can nuke and take moscow, where stealth strategic bombers mop up the rest of ussr cities relatively cheaply. When China fell, I sent some troops led by macarthur to the middle east, rushing past the middles eastern troops attacking burma and attacking iran and iraq. Yamashita was used to mop up ussr cities. When the only enemies left were the middle east wtos, rommel had already defeated egypt and invaded syria. Last two nations of iran and iraq fell to missiles and troops. This is the best as I can recall, and if needed I can post pictures of my vague strategy done, but yep I dont think my record is fabulous, just that Max Otto von Stierlitz used france instead of usa, and easier option.
Key points in the conquest: nanking, ulan bator, athens, riga, moscow
Key events: Defeat of mongolia(prc has no support), defeat of prc(wiped off 20 plus strong troops still left), guderian's conquest of the balkan states, macarthur's invasion of iran and the missile spam of ussr cities using riga
2nd and 3rd record: 1939 Fastest 1 star Country Speed Conquest With Generals, and Highest 1939 Record Score. (as egypt)
My score: 31 turns
267315 highscore
Previous record: 33 turns
240000(or smth i forgot) highscore
Factor needed: As shown from the minimal turn difference, LUCK. For me was very lucky on my first try where the allies resisted japan. Used full technology.
Generals used: Yamashita, dowding, konev, rokossovsky, nimitz, vatutin, rommel, guderian. Dowding to generate income in Cairo.
Brief Strategy(very vague since i forgotten a lot): Sent a unit speeding to europe from the middle east in order to take an open city. Spawned guderian in a triple stacked medium tank, and konev in a double stacked howitzer, with rokossovsky, rommel and yamashita on a commando to support in europe. First I use nasser to easily take africa(no need to elaborate as v ez). Navy should rush to occupy enemy ports to prevent enamy naval spam, and I spawned Nimitz in a double cruiser. After defeating the italian and spanish naval spam I focused on using nimitz to weaken spanish cities near coast for me to invade. At the start I sent a paratrooped mech infantry to asia to resist the japanese, took thailand hongkong, wuhan, chongking and spawned triple stacked medium tank for vatutin to take nanking, peking, shanghai and then pyongyang and seoul. Mainland japanese cities wekaned with double cruisers from stolen ports.
Back to europe, guderian and konev easily defeated bulgaria, hungary and romania before the italian spam with messe and graziani came. Easily confused them with rumour, and defeated them. Yamashita and Guderian with rommel to take back poland and germany with Berlin taken asap, and then konev and rokossovsky to take italy and push up on germany before france can be run over. Nasser was sent upwards to occupy rome but didnt do much. Im very sorry if my explanation is trash ahhaha, but its really cuz i forgot a lot and the strategy isnt really specific or genius. Just take cities fast with generals, and defend cities scantily with armoured cars or light infantry. When germany was near defeat sent yamashita racing to asia to take the last japanese city, and could have improved my score by 1 turn if i had sent yamashita to help in asia when germany's counter attacks had ceased. My memory is better with the 1943 version of egypt which i will explain later, since they both follow pretty much the same strategy, and i got this 1939 one in 1 try whilst the 1943 version in more than 20 tries before I finally took it after trying for 4 months plus.
Key points in the conquest: Krakow, athens, berlin, thailand, nanking, seoul, tokyo
key events: ploughing through the balkans with guderian, ussr carrying me in the northern european front, occupying major japanese cities, and easily taking tokyo to strategic bomb everyone
Welp rather tired now since its nighttime
will explain the last 3 records tmr.Best way to break 2 records in one go: challenge the one star speed runs as they give more points to have a better highscore. For Max Otto von Stierlitz if u want to challenge this record luck is the only factor for you since you already have much better upgrades and generals than I have lel
) hmm I think I shall attempt either 1950 usa or 1943 egypt. well time to put my australia 1939 most cities record challenge on hold! Brb in 3 days max(pun heh)
hehe stoic i can tell u are watching the video, have a fun 1 hour haha do look out for the random rage moments of zooming in and out rapidly as those were times luck wasnt on my side 
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