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Post by Ralyks on May 1, 2019 9:20:30 GMT
Long time since I last posted in this forum, as I prefer to be a reader than writer, but I wanted to address this issue I jumped in to Conquest 1815 with Columbia and I noticed that once the Tribal Union joins on your side, its unable to create troops. Its just gathering resources without training a single tribal troop. What surprised me most is that it wasn't posted (or at least I couldnt find it) here already, in hopes of EasyTech to know about. Its not a big deal, but surely not intended, as those almost 1k resources and growing would be sweet to be invested in troops to help Morocco and Spain push against Algeria in Africa. ------------------------------------ Also, yesterday an update came for WC4 for my Android phone, under the patch description of "Fix issues." they added ingame advertisement, which I dislike the idea as a glowing button with "AD" is now shown in all Scenario/Conquest/Domination interfaces, offering mediocre amount of resources for watching an advertisement... This reward doesn't even seem to consider your level, as the reward is almost a joke. I also wish this game received a last update (not one that only includes ads), in which there was a campaign as the bad boys, playing as the Terrorists against the Nato. I would love to give it a go at those op Tanks and Cruisers they use. Even if its a paid extension (like $2), I would gladly pay for it if it holds . Imo its a great addition. Maybe allow to play them in the 1980 conquest as well (with the map being less overtaken by Terrorists)? Thoughts?
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Post by stoic on May 1, 2019 10:53:55 GMT
If there were medals instead of resources then this in-game advertisement option wouldn't be such a bad idea after all.
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Post by Ralyks on May 1, 2019 13:50:13 GMT
If there were medals instead of resources then this in-game advertisement option wouldn't be such a bad idea after all. Considering the amount of resources they give, if it was converted into medals, it would be like 2 or 3. 5 would be a good number, but I doubt they'll do such, so at least I won't be watching these for now
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Post by stoic on May 1, 2019 14:05:54 GMT
If there were medals instead of resources then this in-game advertisement option wouldn't be such a bad idea after all. Considering the amount of resources they give, if it was converted into medals, it would be like 2 or 3. 5 would be a good number, but I doubt they'll do such, so at least I won't be watching these for now Well, we can hope they read our suggestions from time to time (at least jamesyang)
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Post by Navia Lanoira on May 4, 2019 5:50:31 GMT
I also noticed it in my conquest as spain. Wait, racing mode in wc4? I didnt see that in ipad or iphone.
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on May 4, 2019 12:32:25 GMT
I also noticed it in my conquest as spain. Wait, racing mode in wc4? I didnt see that in ipad or iphone. Now, since this is a EW6 board, let's keep things focused on EW6, okay? EW6: It's either a bug, a programmed course of action or the Tribal Union has already overrun its population limit and stops producing more. Considering that the Tribal Union has a very small and weak starting territory, I believe that the 3rd option sounds more logical. WC4: Racing Mode is a way to remember the 1st anniversary of WC4 which featured a major racing competition for Android players. The Racing mode is left from the competition.
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Post by Navia Lanoira on May 4, 2019 12:38:17 GMT
I also noticed it in my conquest as spain. Wait, racing mode in wc4? I didnt see that in ipad or iphone. Now, since this is a EW6 board, let's keep things focused on EW6, okay? EW6: It's either a bug, a programmed course of action or the Tribal Union has already overrun its population limit and stops producing more. Considering that the Tribal Union has a very small and weak starting territory, I believe that the 3rd option sounds more logical. WC4: Racing Mode is a way to remember the 1st anniversary of WC4 which featured a major racing competition for Android players. The Racing mode is left from the competition. Ahh so it is the anniversary. Lets move into the topic again. What i see in my conquest, tribal union has stopped producing troops. Really stopped as it play auto without producing some. It is not in the population i think because tu has zero troops and didnt produce any units.
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on May 4, 2019 12:43:01 GMT
Now, since this is a EW6 board, let's keep things focused on EW6, okay? EW6: It's either a bug, a programmed course of action or the Tribal Union has already overrun its population limit and stops producing more. Considering that the Tribal Union has a very small and weak starting territory, I believe that the 3rd option sounds more logical. WC4: Racing Mode is a way to remember the 1st anniversary of WC4 which featured a major racing competition for Android players. The Racing mode is left from the competition. Ahh so it is the anniversary. Lets move into the topic again. What i see in my conquest, tribal union has stopped producing troops. Really stopped as it play auto without producing some. It is not in the population i think because tu has zero troops and didnt produce any units. Hmm, then I guess it's the AI's way of declaring a surrender. If this is programmed, we can check if it is caused by AI "choosing" to surrender or build up its cities. The former can be a result of the lost of its elite units. Maybe if we help the TU some Algerian cities, would it be more proactive? The latter is a function which almost all AI in the game follows, if you cannot win militarily, you try economically. And how does one compete economically? You make sure you have the better and more stable economy! If not by seizure of cities, the only other way is by upgrading ypur cities.
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Post by Navia Lanoira on May 4, 2019 13:17:41 GMT
Ahh so it is the anniversary. Lets move into the topic again. What i see in my conquest, tribal union has stopped producing troops. Really stopped as it play auto without producing some. It is not in the population i think because tu has zero troops and didnt produce any units. Hmm, then I guess it's the AI's way of declaring a surrender. If this is programmed, we can check if it is caused by AI "choosing" to surrender or build up its cities. The former can be a result of the lost of its elite units. Maybe if we help the TU some Algerian cities, would it be more proactive? The latter is a function which almost all AI in the game follows, if you cannot win militarily, you try economically. And how does one compete economically? You make sure you have the better and more stable economy! If not by seizure of cities, the only other way is by upgrading ypur cities. I don’t know if the reason is not by military but by economy. And it doesn’t upgrade its own cities. Maybe the reason why because tribes wanna be neutral.
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Post by Ralyks on May 6, 2019 15:50:04 GMT
It's surely not due population because like previously mentioned, their starting troops don't last much (as they are weaker) and they don't replace them. 2 cities should hold 30-40 population, so even when they join, that they have like 500 gold, they should be producing troops on the round they join.
I would put my hand on the fire betting its not intended. Else they would've leave it like Iriquois, neutral, but nope. I think its a problem with these special weaker troops not being coded to AI properly, so they can't recruit them.
Ofc they could never overtake Algeria, but at least if they used or donated those resources to its neighbour Morocco, I could arrive to Africa with the front being on a better position.
Tribal Union was added with a patch that included 1815, so I'll bet its a thing they forgot to code with the patch.
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Post by Seger on May 7, 2019 12:35:02 GMT
It's surely not due population because like previously mentioned, their starting troops don't last much (as they are weaker) and they don't replace them. 2 cities should hold 30-40 population, so even when they join, that they have like 500 gold, they should be producing troops on the round they join. I would put my hand on the fire betting its not intended. Else they would've leave it like Iriquois, neutral, but nope. I think its a problem with these special weaker troops not being coded to AI properly, so they can't recruit them. Ofc they could never overtake Algeria, but at least if they used or donated those resources to its neighbour Morocco, I could arrive to Africa with the front being on a better position. Tribal Union was added with a patch that included 1815, so I'll bet its a thing they forgot to code with the patch. Can the AI donate?
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Post by Neltrase Vectore on May 7, 2019 17:31:52 GMT
Ralyks lol you will be surprised how easy it would have been for the Terrorist AI to cuck you over if it desires so for all the time we have been playing. I used my modded version to play as Terrorist and cleared 1980 in 6 turns without any extra gens (apart from the assigned ones like the eyeless gens). And also, the UN AI is extremely competent in 1980 when you play as Terrorist comparing to when you play as a UN country. You can easily lose your foothold in Northern America if you skip a turn or two.
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Post by Seger on May 7, 2019 18:20:40 GMT
Neltrase Vectore , we know the AI doesn't play like a human being, but shoudn't it be more spread out? 1000 gold is a masive reserve 100-300 is normal but 1000?
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Post by Neltrase Vectore on May 8, 2019 9:51:49 GMT
Ralyks, Seger, Terrorists starts with 3000 gold, 500 industry, 350 science, and a crazy income to burn. Honestly, the only thing that would otherwise make Terrorist ultimate OP is that their bomber can't carry nukes.
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Post by Seger on May 8, 2019 10:41:52 GMT
Ralyks, Seger, Terrorists starts with 3000 gold, 500 industry, 350 science, and a crazy income to burn. Honestly, the only thing that would otherwise make Terrorist ultimate OP is that their bomber can't carry nukes.
That's very intresting, but also off-topic we're talking About tribal Union in ew6. Tribal Union is far from op so easytech does not have to nerf them by making them unable to produce any units
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