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Arminius
Aug 21, 2019 16:08:25 GMT
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Post by kingbutawl on Aug 21, 2019 16:08:25 GMT
Come on , man ! I need screenshots ....
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 21, 2019 16:20:28 GMT
Come on , man ! I need screenshots .... kingbutawl, Tried it out. Arminius does slightly more damage than Hannibal on jungles (average damage 137 compared to 130), but their crit damage was the same (180( They were both promoted to consul and given golden spear, arminius had lvl 4 jungle whereas hannibal had a higher level of charge. Basically, on jungle terrain Arminius >= Hannibal damage wise On plain terrain Hannibal > Arminius |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 21, 2019 16:22:14 GMT
If you want more data, I suggest you what I do an just make a cloud save, firing your best generals for medals
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Post by kingbutawl on Aug 21, 2019 18:16:49 GMT
This means Scipio defending in a city is more powerful than both of them
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Arminius
Aug 21, 2019 18:21:47 GMT
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 21, 2019 18:21:47 GMT
This means Scipio defending in a city is more powerful than both of them True. But how often do you defend your cities using him? And I agree. |
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Post by kingbutawl on Aug 21, 2019 18:28:53 GMT
I always conquer cities with him . Imagine a consul Scipio with Augustus helmet .... lvl5 counterattack and lvl2 4 street fighting.....
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Arminius
Aug 21, 2019 20:09:39 GMT
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 21, 2019 20:09:39 GMT
I always conquer cities with him . Imagine a consul Scipio with Augustus helmet .... lvl5 counterattack and lvl2 4 street fighting..... He is an intriguing choice. Even if he is outside of cities, charge counterattack and his tale talent work well with each other |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 20:44:58 GMT
Come on , man ! I need screenshots .... kingbutawl , Tried it out. Arminius does slightly more damage than Hannibal on jungles (average damage 137 compared to 130), but their crit damage was the same (180( They were both promoted to consul and given golden spear, arminius had lvl 4 jungle whereas hannibal had a higher level of charge. Basically, on jungle terrain Arminius >= Hannibal damage wise On plain terrain Hannibal > Arminius Bruh, you're telling me that Hannibal talent gives him less than 20 damage? Try testing it on heavy Cavalry, etc. Doesn't make sense that a God is matched by a guy who got killed by his own guys. Master talents aren't that op then. Still the best Cavalry unit in game. Has both Cavalry commander and guerilla, slaughters infantry and a skill that increases crit when high morale. On higher legion numbers tho, Hannibal becomes a beast, since his talent is percentage based,so if the Cavalry unit he is in is around 110 +, mathematically speaking he should outdamage arminius on jungles, unless my brain burnt and my math is wrong. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 21, 2019 21:01:51 GMT
Deleted Fair points. I tried him out on a simple tier 2 heavy cavarly not on high morale as that is the unit we will be using the majority of the time. Obviously with high morale, catapult, and additional tiers of units, they will both deal more damage. Still, they are a lot less far apart than you would think. The main disadvantage with arminius is that in that stronger units like war charriots and war elephants, it will be harder to find jungle tiles. And obviously no cavarly commander
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Post by kingbutawl on Aug 21, 2019 22:15:30 GMT
deleted is too scared to think about Scipio well tuned that suddenly compare Arshitius with Hannibal.
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Arminius
Aug 21, 2019 22:36:51 GMT
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 21, 2019 22:36:51 GMT
deleted is too scared to think about Scipio well tuned that suddenly compare Arshitius with Hannibal. Scipio = Davout but better of EW6 Well at least we can all agree on one thing. Huo is very overrated. I’d trade his cavarly tactics and his assualt just for charge. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 5:56:07 GMT
deleted is too scared to think about Scipio well tuned that suddenly compare Arshitius with Hannibal. Nah, people may start arguing Arminius is better than Hannibal when it isn't. Also, Antony>Scipio, don't @ me( lol, there's actually someone who has an account with @ me) |
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Post by kingbutawl on Aug 22, 2019 13:25:13 GMT
I traded Arminius for Scipio at the second campaign and that was the best day for my game . Scipio is better than Arminius in both conquest and campaign due to the lack of survivability . I remember how he died quickly when attacked by enemies(and even when attacking infantry) . He surely does more damage than Scipio , but not so much (really ) . The best cavalry team is made by Anthony , Scipio and Pacorus I (Commius is too much expensive ) .
Arminius is the counterpart of Vercyngetorix in cavalry (not balanced raw power in uncommon situations) .
Claiming that Anthony is better than Scipio is a joke . They belong to different purposes. Scipio can attack and maintain cities under siege .
Anthony is for blitzkriegs , conquering cities .
Moreover I think that Anthony is the Davout of this game (due to double attack) and Scipio inherits some of Blucher's defensive (but not offensive skills due to the lack of plain fighting and the ninth grade in cavalry)
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 22, 2019 13:43:03 GMT
I traded Arminius for Scipio at the second campaign and that was the best day for my game . Scipio is better than Arminius in both conquest and campaign due to the lack of survivability . I remember how he died quickly when attacked by enemies(and even when attacking infantry) . He surely does more damage than Scipio , but not so much (really ) . The best cavalry team is made by Anthony , Scipio and Pacorus I (Commius is too much expensive ) . Arminius is the counterpart of Vercyngetorix in cavalry (not balanced raw power in uncommon situations) . Claiming that Anthony is better than Scipio is a joke . They belong to different purposes. Scipio can attack and maintain cities under siege . Anthony is for blitzkriegs , conquering cities . Moreover I think that Anthony is the Davout of this game (due to double attack) and Scipio inherits some of Blucher's defensive (but not offensive skills due to the lack of plain fighting and the ninth grade in cavalry) I bet you just used Arminius on bad units such as light cavarly. Anthony is kind of better though, as he is a better offensive general |
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Post by Seger on Aug 22, 2019 13:59:16 GMT
why would you discuss this? you can take huo, scipio, arminius and antony. I don't think the differences are so great that it is really bad to take one earlier than the other. you can better argue about generals for which there are alternatives (for example the inf gens). there are no alternatives to cav except hannibal or less than 4 cav gens which is probably not the best setup. so the question could be who is the worst of the four but i think that's just huo.
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