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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Oct 31, 2019 3:05:36 GMT
Okay, i have bought this guy, and it makes my 9 archery commander obsolete, questions: 1. should I remake my commander into infantry instead? skills: siege, march, hide, counteratk 2. what item for Drussus? crossbow+15% crit? cart + 2 mobility? Nah archer commanders are still useful considering how slow much archers in game actually are. I’d keep yours the way it is |
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Post by stoic on Oct 31, 2019 6:46:34 GMT
Okay, i have bought this guy, and it makes my 9 archery commander obsolete, questions: 1. should I remake my commander into infantry instead? skills: siege, march, hide, counteratk 2. what item for Drussus? crossbow+15% crit? cart + 2 mobility? Actually, there are not so many good archers in the game indeed. So I wouldn't recommend to convert your Commander either. And Drusus definitely will profit from using a crossbow... |
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Post by Marshal Forwards on May 11, 2020 9:46:15 GMT
In Defending Germania in the 13. campaign Drusus on Javelineers is a key unit you have to kill. Here you can experience it’s almost impossible. The only chance is to spare him until the very end, when casualties don’t matter anymore. The only way to defeat him is a suicidal attack from 6 sides with all available generals, but it will cost you half of your forces. No other archer, be it Ceasar, Octavian or Mithridates, is so hard to kill when commanding heavy armored archers.
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Post by SolidLight on May 11, 2020 11:16:55 GMT
I have him now, but honestly I almost think I should have saved up a little more for Octavian. Drusus’ biggest weakness compared to his competition is his lack of Archer Commander. Yeah I know AC isn’t as consistent as Inspire, but I don’t think inspire is as necessary for archers as it is for cavalry unless you’re trying to tank a city with one. Heck, he even has rain of arrows! But most archers just suck at defending cities. Meanwhile AC is really powerful when it procs. It’s a free hit, and archers insanely high atk. Also, I swear there’s something with the RNG that allows you to hit up to like 4 times but I can’t prove it.
I think I’ve been better off with a more conventional backup archer like Octavian than a city defender like Drusus.
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Post by Marshal Forwards on May 11, 2020 12:17:55 GMT
I have him now, but honestly I almost think I should have saved up a little more for Octavian. Drusus’ biggest weakness compared to his competition is his lack of Archer Commander. Yeah I know AC isn’t as consistent as Inspire, but I don’t think inspire is as necessary for archers as it is for cavalry unless you’re trying to tank a city with one. Heck, he even has rain of arrows! But most archers just suck at defending cities. Meanwhile AC is really powerful when it procs. It’s a free hit, and archers insanely high atk. Also, I swear there’s something with the RNG that allows you to hit up to like 4 times but I can’t prove it. I think I’ve been better off with a more conventional backup archer like Octavian than a city defender like Drusus. Drusus is a good first archer purchase, 540 medals(?), about 100 less than Octavian and significantly cheaper than Muth. As soon as I had Mith, Drusus was just #2. For that he’s ok. Useful but left out when I needed Cleopatra. Rain of arrows is only advisable on a building with intact city defense. In endgame I’ll consider to sell him for 515 again to buy Octavian. In the said campaign, as a javelineer key target he looks much stronger than when I use him because I can’t bypass or flank him. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on May 11, 2020 12:43:08 GMT
I have him now, but honestly I almost think I should have saved up a little more for Octavian. Drusus’ biggest weakness compared to his competition is his lack of Archer Commander. Yeah I know AC isn’t as consistent as Inspire, but I don’t think inspire is as necessary for archers as it is for cavalry unless you’re trying to tank a city with one. Heck, he even has rain of arrows! But most archers just suck at defending cities. Meanwhile AC is really powerful when it procs. It’s a free hit, and archers insanely high atk. Also, I swear there’s something with the RNG that allows you to hit up to like 4 times but I can’t prove it. I think I’ve been better off with a more conventional backup archer like Octavian than a city defender like Drusus. The lack of archer commander is indeed drusus’ worst quality. Octavian is pretty overpriced and meh imo when compared to drusus. He is no surena, but his skill set overall is average (accuracy is bad, counterattack is ok, and besiege is terrible). Imo, Cleopatra is not much worse but can be a navy general too. |
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Post by SolidLight on May 11, 2020 15:39:19 GMT
I have him now, but honestly I almost think I should have saved up a little more for Octavian. Drusus’ biggest weakness compared to his competition is his lack of Archer Commander. Yeah I know AC isn’t as consistent as Inspire, but I don’t think inspire is as necessary for archers as it is for cavalry unless you’re trying to tank a city with one. Heck, he even has rain of arrows! But most archers just suck at defending cities. Meanwhile AC is really powerful when it procs. It’s a free hit, and archers insanely high atk. Also, I swear there’s something with the RNG that allows you to hit up to like 4 times but I can’t prove it. I think I’ve been better off with a more conventional backup archer like Octavian than a city defender like Drusus. The lack of archer commander is indeed drusus’ worst quality. Octavian is pretty overpriced and meh imo when compared to drusus. He is no surena, but his skill set overall is average (accuracy is bad, counterattack is ok, and besiege is terrible). Imo, Cleopatra is not much worse but can be a navy general too. I mean, what does Drusus have? I don’t tank cities with archers and I never fight archers with archers unless it’s the killing blow, so Rain of Arrows and Hide is mostly worthless for me. Advantage+Inspire is admittedly a really solid combo, but is it worth sacrificing a commander skill? Let alone on the best unit for the commander skill? Not in my opinion. A 20% chance + possible RNG shenanigans to nuke one or more enemies for free is a really high price to pay. Inspire makes Drusus really hard to kill, as have been previously detailed, but I honestly don’t care that much about archer toughness since they don’t take counterattacks. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on May 11, 2020 16:08:15 GMT
The lack of archer commander is indeed drusus’ worst quality. Octavian is pretty overpriced and meh imo when compared to drusus. He is no surena, but his skill set overall is average (accuracy is bad, counterattack is ok, and besiege is terrible). Imo, Cleopatra is not much worse but can be a navy general too. I mean, what does Drusus have? I don’t tank cities with archers and I never fight archers with archers unless it’s the killing blow, so Rain of Arrows and Hide is mostly worthless for me. Advantage+Inspire is admittedly a really solid combo, but is it worth sacrificing a commander skill? Let alone on the best unit for the commander skill? Not in my opinion. A 20% chance + possible RNG shenanigans to nuke one or more enemies for free is a really high price to pay. Inspire makes Drusus really hard to kill, as have been previously detailed, but I honestly don’t care that much about archer toughness since they don’t take counterattacks. Well if you are uncareful with archers, they can die very very quickly (example, cavarly general comes through the fog). And inspire is a really solid combo. Imo inspire + advantage > archer com + archer tactics, so Drusus is better than Octavian for me personally. But it really depends on playthrough. I typically use my archers as support rather than as damage dealers. Imo, Pedius talent actually shines the most in this situation as he can cause Chaos amongst the attacking generals. Archer commander is also useful for chipping away legions and causing demoralization. Imo Mih > Drusus > Cleo > Octavian > Pedius > Dolabella > rest. |
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Post by rsgiron on Aug 17, 2020 12:18:15 GMT
Only hide is a trash skill for archery because you don't want to fight other archers. Like I Said in general Path archery doesn't have a good third gen As I understand "hide" is working in attack as well as in defence. And our generals certainly will be attacked by some archers anyway. Besides, he is very good against archers while defending a city... His damage ca be very high meantime. Finally, it is not a bad idea at all to have an archer killer who can win archers' duels when needed (for example, protecting our cavalry generals). You do At Ctesiphon |
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Post by Always be my baby ♡ on Oct 18, 2021 4:11:42 GMT
Call him overrated, only with crossbow He’s already better than Octavian.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Nov 4, 2021 17:37:57 GMT
Call him overrated, only with crossbow He’s already better than Octavian. 100% false. Octavian has one of the best skillsets in the game, and IMO a 30% crit rate and high morale is not worth AC, Besiege, and Accuracy. I feel like people forget that high morale (especially on powerful gens) is very possible even without inspire or items. |
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Post by hrabrimalitoster on Nov 4, 2021 18:12:01 GMT
Drasus is a great general for beginners, when they don't have the best equipment, only with crossbow he will do the job. When the generals are maximally upgrade and have the best equipment, Drasus cannot match the Mithridates and Octavian.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2021 20:51:36 GMT
I don't really understand the problem about archer generals. Just buy Caesar and Attila and call it a day, problem solved.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2021 20:54:41 GMT
Drasus is a great general for beginners, when they don't have the best equipment, only with crossbow he will do the job. When the generals are maximally upgrade and have the best equipment, Drasus cannot match the Mithridates and Octavian. I still have Drusus, and he's my usual go to guy in decisive battles. Real reason i think he's great is how less item dependent he is compared to Mithridates and Octavian. I doubt people would be giving them the best items when those items can be given to cavalry and infantry generals. I won't use him for conquest due to the lack of archer commander, but if E.T decide to release a banner that gives commander skills, then i'd be using him exclusively, with Mithridates and Octavian as back-ups. |
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Post by hrabrimalitoster on Nov 4, 2021 21:22:13 GMT
Drasus is a great general for beginners, when they don't have the best equipment, only with crossbow he will do the job. When the generals are maximally upgrade and have the best equipment, Drasus cannot match the Mithridates and Octavian. I still have Drusus, and he's my usual go to guy in decisive battles. Real reason i think he's great is how less item dependent he is compared to Mithridates and Octavian. I doubt people would be giving them the best items when those items can be given to cavalry and infantry generals. I won't use him for conquest due to the lack of archer commander, but if E.T decide to release a banner that gives commander skills, then i'd be using him exclusively, with Mithridates and Octavian as back-ups. In the decisive battle, he is my second choice right after Attila. I keep the best items on cavalry generals so it’s a better choice than Octavian and Mithridates. If he had march or comander skill instead of hide he would definitely be the best archer general because of his talent and he would deserve to be a gold general |
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