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Post by 𝘛𝘳𝘰𝘵𝘴𝘬𝘺 on Apr 13, 2020 16:16:13 GMT
Well, any strategy that works is a good one. In the end it’s a matter of timing. All distant countries fell within 2 rounds, Turkey, Denmark, Spain. Perfect, but surely not the only way. I do agree. If you have very few generals, send deroy to turkey. Otherwise, if you can afford putting a cavarly general on the tier one heavy cavarly near vienna, send deroy to poland I played once HRE to get Victoria - I used LAN - she is really easy to get in early mid game with Antonio Luna 's help in GB1812. So with her help it was really easy to win HRE: 1. Ignore Poland !!- they won't attack HRE - and over the time Russia will defeat them. (Don't panic! - This I learned from the HRE-guide and it's true!) 2. Hotze is horrible? No! OK 1 medipack (my fault) and he's enough for Scandinavia solo. Build frigates in the port in north Denmark to support him. 3. With 4Trade I send Isabella first to Vienna to change hammers so I can build in Round 1 one Armored Car for Lan - after this she's taking Italy. 4. Lan rushes vs Spain - she even cleans up the Spanish Enclaves in Maroc in time (they still exist today) 5. The Ottoman's front is done by Archduke (Greece + the last port SE of map - for last) in the west. 6. Because I don't need them in Poland Luisigman (He has Massfire on 3xGreanadiers) and Deroy go vs Istanbul. The economy in round 12/13 is strong enough to build an Armoured Car in one of the Ottoman's stables - there I put my last general - the rest is easy I had to wait for resources but in R29 I got 850 years in Europe. My advice: get Lan in GB1812 it is not this complicate - and after this go for Victoria - I think it's much easier. DON'T WAIT TO GET LAN! |
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Post by Arya Stark on Apr 13, 2020 16:18:40 GMT
Well, any strategy that works is a good one. In the end it’s a matter of timing. All distant countries fell within 2 rounds, Turkey, Denmark, Spain. Perfect, but surely not the only way. I do agree. If you have very few generals, send deroy to turkey. Otherwise, if you can afford putting a cavarly general on the tier one heavy cavarly near vienna, send deroy to poland I always put Sulkowski on the Light cavalry unit in Weiburg (with a snare drum) and Sophia (+War horse) with Charles to Turkey and then to Italy and Spain while Isabela mops up Italy and advances to Spain As for the HRE gens, Deroy helps out in Poland before moving east, Rosenberg moves up to Denmark after Poland falls, August I assists Sulkowski in invading France, Hotze handles the Netherlands, Klenau and Davidovich help Isabela in invading southern France and Spain, and Lusignan is mainly used for attacking Turkey. Annoyingly, my best result is 40 rounds, not quite enough for Lan or Victoria |
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Post by Marshal Forwards on Apr 13, 2020 18:27:27 GMT
I do agree. If you have very few generals, send deroy to turkey. Otherwise, if you can afford putting a cavarly general on the tier one heavy cavarly near vienna, send deroy to poland I always put Sulkowski on the Light cavalry unit in Weiburg (with a snare drum) and Sophia (+War horse) with Charles to Turkey and then to Italy and Spain while Isabela mops up Italy and advances to Spain As for the HRE gens, Deroy helps out in Poland before moving east, Rosenberg moves up to Denmark after Poland falls, August I assists Sulkowski in invading France, Hotze handles the Netherlands, Klenau and Davidovich help Isabela in invading southern France and Spain, and Lusignan is mainly used for attacking Turkey. Annoyingly, my best result is 40 rounds, not quite enough for Lan or Victoria We got absolutely OT, but I find it interesting how different plans for HRE 1789 can be. Did you send Isabella by ship to Spain? Though Isabella and Sophia with warhorse had the same move at this time, I found Sophia (and Archduke) better suited for Italy and Isabellas Accurate better for the rough terrain in Greece and Turkey. Both have one big city and a big fortress, so same task. But after Rome Sophia can be very helpful in France. There’s this Fortress general I spared before. Anybody else but Sophia has a hard time with it, she’s made for that stuff. 4 hex on land to France is also better than 2 hex on sea to Spain. France spams more forts in the end than Ottomans, so Sophia is heaven sent there. Archduke can be useful in either Istanbul or Rome for final trading gold/food->metal. maybe this can help you: european-war-4.boards.net/post/186671/threadi made it after unlocking Lan & Victoria. I don’t say it’s the only way but it worked. I highly recommend the included link to Antonio Luna’s guide. He explains a trading trick to afford a Guard cavalry for your Cav gen for France/Spain. Like that he can do His job without artillery support. And he opened my eyes about the use of save&load to avoid undesired AI moves. edit: I was very overprepaired with items. The only mandatory things are warhorse, snare drum, and speed items, maybe Napoleonic code. High rank and nobility is better than defense items and tents. |
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Post by Arya Stark on Apr 13, 2020 19:40:22 GMT
I always put Sulkowski on the Light cavalry unit in Weiburg (with a snare drum) and Sophia (+War horse) with Charles to Turkey and then to Italy and Spain while Isabela mops up Italy and advances to Spain As for the HRE gens, Deroy helps out in Poland before moving east, Rosenberg moves up to Denmark after Poland falls, August I assists Sulkowski in invading France, Hotze handles the Netherlands, Klenau and Davidovich help Isabela in invading southern France and Spain, and Lusignan is mainly used for attacking Turkey. Annoyingly, my best result is 40 rounds, not quite enough for Lan or Victoria We got absolutely OT, but I find it interesting how different plans for HRE 1789 can be. Did you send Isabella by ship to Spain? Though Isabella and Sophia with warhorse had the same move at this time, I found Sophia (and Archduke) better suited for Italy and Isabellas Accurate better for the rough terrain in Greece and Turkey. Both have one big city and a big fortress, so same task. But after Rome Sophia can be very helpful in France. There’s this Fortress general I spared before. Anybody else but Sophia has a hard time with it, she’s made for that stuff. 4 hex on land to France is also better than 2 hex on sea to Spain. France spams more forts in the end than Ottomans, so Sophia is heaven sent there. Archduke can be useful in either Istanbul or Rome for final trading gold/food->metal. maybe this can help you: european-war-4.boards.net/post/186671/threadi made it after unlocking Lan & Victoria. I don’t say it’s the only way but it worked. I highly recommend the included link to Antonio Luna’s guide. He explains a trading trick to afford a Guard cavalry for your Cav gen for France/Spain. Like that he can do His job without artillery support. And he opened my eyes about the use of save&load to avoid undesired AI moves. edit: I was very overprepaired with items. The only mandatory things are warhorse, snare drum, and speed items, maybe Napoleonic code. High rank and nobility is better than defense items and tents. Thanks Marshal ForwardsI already have a Warhorse and Snare Drum, so perhaps I should go back to medal grinding for move trainers and some more items for my generals; nobility isn't an issue for me I also think I should save after I move (on EVERY turn) so I get an ideal set of conditions: When I did the 40 round conquest Spain had control of northern Morocco so i had to mop it up. I'll keep trying (the most important thing) I'm already getting 40-45 rounds with my current commanders and strategy, so it wouldn't hurt to try something new I guess, no? |
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Post by 𝘛𝘳𝘰𝘵𝘴𝘬𝘺 on Apr 14, 2020 1:52:49 GMT
We got absolutely OT, but I find it interesting how different plans for HRE 1789 can be. Did you send Isabella by ship to Spain? Though Isabella and Sophia with warhorse had the same move at this time, I found Sophia (and Archduke) better suited for Italy and Isabellas Accurate better for the rough terrain in Greece and Turkey. Both have one big city and a big fortress, so same task. But after Rome Sophia can be very helpful in France. There’s this Fortress general I spared before. Anybody else but Sophia has a hard time with it, she’s made for that stuff. 4 hex on land to France is also better than 2 hex on sea to Spain. France spams more forts in the end than Ottomans, so Sophia is heaven sent there. Archduke can be useful in either Istanbul or Rome for final trading gold/food->metal. maybe this can help you: european-war-4.boards.net/post/186671/threadi made it after unlocking Lan & Victoria. I don’t say it’s the only way but it worked. I highly recommend the included link to Antonio Luna’s guide. He explains a trading trick to afford a Guard cavalry for your Cav gen for France/Spain. Like that he can do His job without artillery support. And he opened my eyes about the use of save&load to avoid undesired AI moves. edit: I was very overprepaired with items. The only mandatory things are warhorse, snare drum, and speed items, maybe Napoleonic code. High rank and nobility is better than defense items and tents. Thanks Marshal ForwardsI already have a Warhorse and Snare Drum, so perhaps I should go back to medal grinding for move trainers and some more items for my generals; nobility isn't an issue for me I also think I should save after I move (on EVERY turn) so I get an ideal set of conditions: When I did the 40 round conquest Spain had control of northern Morocco so i had to mop it up. I'll keep trying (the most important thing) I'm already getting 40-45 rounds with my current commanders and strategy, so it wouldn't hurt to try something new I guess, no? guide is really nice - his general advises are all important (even the links - I haven't found A.Luna's guide before)! My advise: Get Lan with GB1812! It is fast and with the guide of Antonio Luna not complicate. (I got Kate + Lan with untrained Sophia, Isabella and Duomirez) After GB1812 pick up Victoria with the help of Lan - But: GET LAN NOW! |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Apr 14, 2020 2:43:29 GMT
Thanks Marshal ForwardsI already have a Warhorse and Snare Drum, so perhaps I should go back to medal grinding for move trainers and some more items for my generals; nobility isn't an issue for me I also think I should save after I move (on EVERY turn) so I get an ideal set of conditions: When I did the 40 round conquest Spain had control of northern Morocco so i had to mop it up. I'll keep trying (the most important thing) I'm already getting 40-45 rounds with my current commanders and strategy, so it wouldn't hurt to try something new I guess, no? guide is really nice - his general advises are all important (even the links - I haven't found A.Luna's guide before)! My advise: Get Lan with GB1812! It is fast and with the guide of Antonio Luna not complicate. (I got Kate + Lan with untrained Sophia, Isabella and Duomirez) After GB1812 pick up Victoria with the help of Lan - But: GET LAN NOW! Exactly. Lan will make things much easier. But if you have goltisyn, he won’t be that much worse. But you still might have to regroup him, then repurchase him which will be a slight pain |
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Post by Marshal Forwards on Apr 14, 2020 6:15:45 GMT
Thanks Marshal Forwards I already have a Warhorse and Snare Drum, so perhaps I should go back to medal grinding for move trainers and some more items for my generals; nobility isn't an issue for me I also think I should save after I move (on EVERY turn) so I get an ideal set of conditions: When I did the 40 round conquest Spain had control of northern Morocco so i had to mop it up. I'll keep trying (the most important thing) I'm already getting 40-45 rounds with my current commanders and strategy, so it wouldn't hurt to try something new I guess, no? Analyse your tries and draw your own conclusion what made you fail. Was it really lack of speed (if yes, where?), attack power, health or handling 4-5 frontlines with one budget? It’s a learning curve. Just don’t buy trainers for Dumouriez. He’s ok but as soon as you have Lan he’ll look mediocre. Try Trotzki’s suggestion of GB 1812 first. Of course Lan > Golitsyn > Dumo. Better tacticians than me were successful with your lineup. In the included guide Kanue used Sakurako, Sophia and Ney (on a single heavy cav!), probably without any items. Some may say even a *Auto Corrected*ed fool can’t fail with my premises. Well..., Marshal Forward Blücher was determined but never a genius. Bonaparte called him Drunkard Husar🤪 My first try was frustrating because I missed by far. So I took time before a repeat and got over prepared to feel confident. The next shot should definitely hit and be smooth. That worked for me. IMO HRE is the most unpleasant country to play in 1798. The only benefit is the center position with direct access to all enemies. Saves: One chapter of my report is about it. I’ve re-edited it yesterday. good luck |
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Post by Marshal Forwards on Apr 14, 2020 6:29:50 GMT
Marshal Forwards guide is really nice - his general advises are all important (even the links - I haven't found A.Luna's guide before)! My advise: Get Lan with GB1812! It is fast and with the guide of Antonio Luna not complicate. (I got Kate + Lan with untrained Sophia, Isabella and Duomirez) After GB1812 pick up Victoria with the help of Lan - But: GET LAN NOW! For for some inexplicable reason Luna’s guides weren’t added to the pinned conquest library. Like his GB1812-Lan-guide you mentioned, I can’t find it. Do you have the link? |
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Post by SolidLight on Apr 14, 2020 11:10:07 GMT
Caradjas stats are 1 infantry star and 2 business stars, and his skill is disguise. I haven’t found anyone who has worse combat stats than that. Kahia? 2 inf stars and 1 cav star. Karamanli? Has a move star and a cav star. Dobrnjac? 2 inf stars and 1 cav star. And all of those are the worst of the worst, yet they all beat Caradja.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Apr 14, 2020 12:36:58 GMT
Caradjas stats are 1 infantry star and 2 business stars, and his skill is disguise. I haven’t found anyone who has worse combat stats than that. Kahia? 2 inf stars and 1 cav star. Karamanli? Has a move star and a cav star. Dobrnjac? 2 inf stars and 1 cav star. And all of those are the worst of the worst, yet they all beat Caradja. Only Ferdinando I is that bad, but he is the cheapest fortress trainer. Even tho fort generals are useless |
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Post by 𝘛𝘳𝘰𝘵𝘴𝘬𝘺 on Apr 14, 2020 13:28:49 GMT
Marshal Forwards guide is really nice - his general advises are all important (even the links - I haven't found A.Luna's guide before)! My advise: Get Lan with GB1812! It is fast and with the guide of Antonio Luna not complicate. (I got Kate + Lan with untrained Sophia, Isabella and Duomirez) After GB1812 pick up Victoria with the help of Lan - But: GET LAN NOW! For for some inexplicable reason Luna’s guides weren’t added to the pinned conquest library. Like his GB1812-Lan-guide you mentioned, I can’t find it. Do you have the link? Her you go to Antonio Luna 's Guide for GB1812And have you noticed that there is even a brand-new Guide for US1775from Erich von Manstein in the training camp? I will try it out as it has a nice new economic strategy. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Apr 14, 2020 15:24:59 GMT
Just beat hre, first try, 650 years w. Davout. Basically, here is the strategy.
No matter what, send Klenau to Spain, and Holtze + Rosenburg to Denmark, Lusignan to Istanbul
If you have 0 generals,
Send Archduke Charles to Spain. Prepare to Spam tons of tier one guards into italy. Send deroy to back lusignan.
If you have only one general (one Cav): send Archduke Charles backed by Davidovich to Italy, send other general to Spain. Make sure Archduke Charles is well supported, but it will still be a bloodbath don’t get me wrong.
Send him to Spain, Italian Front will be the Hardest.
If you have two generals (one cav + one arty (Sophia)) : Send one to spain, other one to back Archduke Charles in Italy. Send deroy to back lusignan.
If you have 3 generals, send one (cav) to Istanbul with Snair Drum, send Deroy to Poland.
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Post by ambitiousace on Apr 15, 2020 1:40:38 GMT
Just beat hre, first try, 650 years w. Davout. Basically, here is the strategy. No matter what, send Klenau to Spain, and Holtze + Rosenburg to Denmark, Lusignan to Istanbul If you have 0 generals, Send Archduke Charles to Spain. Prepare to Spam tons of tier one guards into italy. Send deroy to back lusignan. If you have only one general (one Cav): send Archduke Charles backed by Davidovich to Italy, send other general to Spain. Make sure Archduke Charles is well supported, but it will still be a bloodbath don’t get me wrong. Send him to Spain, Italian Front will be the Hardest. If you have two generals (one cav + one arty (Sophia)) : Send one to spain, other one to back Archduke Charles in Italy. Send deroy to back lusignan. If you have 3 generals, send one (cav) to Istanbul with Snair Drum, send Deroy to Poland. I believe this is a fact.I got isabella with no general run.Just make sure the frontline pushes forward every 1-2 turns and generals are still surviving |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Apr 15, 2020 2:16:51 GMT
Just beat hre, first try, 650 years w. Davout. Basically, here is the strategy. No matter what, send Klenau to Spain, and Holtze + Rosenburg to Denmark, Lusignan to Istanbul If you have 0 generals, Send Archduke Charles to Spain. Prepare to Spam tons of tier one guards into italy. Send deroy to back lusignan. If you have only one general (one Cav): send Archduke Charles backed by Davidovich to Italy, send other general to Spain. Make sure Archduke Charles is well supported, but it will still be a bloodbath don’t get me wrong. Send him to Spain, Italian Front will be the Hardest. If you have two generals (one cav + one arty (Sophia)) : Send one to spain, other one to back Archduke Charles in Italy. Send deroy to back lusignan. If you have 3 generals, send one (cav) to Istanbul with Snair Drum, send Deroy to Poland. I believe this is a fact.I got isabella with no general run.Just make sure the frontline pushes forward every 1-2 turns and generals are still surviving Very impressive! I have not been to pull that off. The italian front went horribly for me and not only did archduke charles get pushed back and nearly killed, he also had to go all the way to sicily to defeat napoleon. |
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Post by ambitiousace on Apr 15, 2020 3:01:40 GMT
I believe this is a fact.I got isabella with no general run.Just make sure the frontline pushes forward every 1-2 turns and generals are still surviving Very impressive! I have not been to pull that off. The italian front went horribly for me and not only did archduke charles get pushed back and nearly killed, he also had to go all the way to sicily to defeat napoleon. Actually that's my A.Charles route😂I sent him and one calvary general there before going to Spain as Napolean is a pain in land,but not in seas(I never let him land) so I can finish him off within fewer turns |
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