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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Jan 27, 2020 16:53:37 GMT
the poll is for the colors. with the skills I have which you should remove but if you do not agree with that I would like to hear your comments Personally, I find Inspiration to be a meh skill. It doesn’t do much other than giving a small boost to your general. Even if you intend to use it as a tool against morale drops, it’s too unreliable. Ambush is a bad skill in my opinion. Chance to dodge is too low to be able to rely on it, even if you only rely a bit on it. There is also the fact that in this game, offense is more important than defense. On admirals, true, you SHOULD put defensive skills like Alert and Escort, but in Infantry, you should favor offense over defense. strangely any chance skill on my Robert E Lee works too well. He dodges attacks most of the time, and when I swapped that out for tactics master he once had tactics master activated for four turns in a row (on a heavy machine gunner  ) |
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Post by stoic on Jan 27, 2020 17:43:48 GMT
Personally, I find Inspiration to be a meh skill. It doesn’t do much other than giving a small boost to your general. Even if you intend to use it as a tool against morale drops, it’s too unreliable. Ambush is a bad skill in my opinion. Chance to dodge is too low to be able to rely on it, even if you only rely a bit on it. There is also the fact that in this game, offense is more important than defense. On admirals, true, you SHOULD put defensive skills like Alert and Escort, but in Infantry, you should favor offense over defense. strangely any chance skill on my Robert E Lee works too well. He dodges attacks most of the time, and when I swapped that out for tactics master he once had tactics master activated for four turns in a row (on a heavy machine gunner ) I agree, actually, chances to dodge attacks are far more higher than 10 percent. |
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Post by SolidLight on Jan 27, 2020 22:31:17 GMT
Personally, I find Inspiration to be a meh skill. It doesn’t do much other than giving a small boost to your general. Even if you intend to use it as a tool against morale drops, it’s too unreliable. Ambush is a bad skill in my opinion. Chance to dodge is too low to be able to rely on it, even if you only rely a bit on it. There is also the fact that in this game, offense is more important than defense. On admirals, true, you SHOULD put defensive skills like Alert and Escort, but in Infantry, you should favor offense over defense. strangely any chance skill on my Robert E Lee works too well. He dodges attacks most of the time, and when I swapped that out for tactics master he once had tactics master activated for four turns in a row (on a heavy machine gunner ) I also have enemies in Darkest Dungeon dodge 5 attacks when I have ~80% hit chance because RNG is just like that. Sometimes we get insanely lucky and sometimes we get insanely unlucky. I’m keeping ambush on my Robert E. Lee too. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jan 28, 2020 0:58:55 GMT
method: battle ability + infantry ability = TA (total ability) wich skills a general has aren't taken into account because of books. This is the best possible from of every general. For the cost comparison of books, the skills must meet two things: 1. They are all above average according to the list of Alexyx. 2. The skills are not bad when you combine them, think of attacking and defensive skills and more than one terrain skill (forest and mountains are an exception because they stack). So it doesn't matter to me whether the skills are the best as long as they are good. I think it is a waste of books, for example, to change forest to plain. infantry requiredgoodokay as a cheap alternativeonly if this is your main unit typebadterribleInfantry 1. E.Lee: TA=155 defense=45% skills: 5 medals:780 books:15 change:battle array and tunnel2. Haig: TA=150 defense=42% skills:5 medals=650 books=5 change:street fighting3: Boroevic: TA=148 defense=42% skills: 5 medals=650 books=5 change:battle array4: Bismarck TA=141 defense=45% skills: 4 medals=550 books=5-15 change:counterattack or change ambush and tactic master and make him defensive. 5: Macmahon TA=122 defense=38% skills: 5 medals=520 books=15 change:cover and counter attack6: Nicholas I TA=138 defense=45% skills: 4 medals=0 books=5 change:tunnel7: Micis TA=114 defense=38% skills: 5 medals=530 books=15 change:battle array and cover8: Garibaldi TA=146 defense=45% skills: 3 medals=540 books=0 change:-Cavarly 1. Jackson: TA=157 defense=45% skills=5 medals=0 books=5 change:station2. Sidney: TA=148 defense=42% skills=5 medals=620 books=5 change: counter attack3. Stepanovic: TA=149 defense=38% skills=5 medals=730 books=15 change:maneuver and cover4. Joffre: TA=148 defense=38% skills=5 medals=540 books=15 change: station and maneuver5. McClellan: TA=131 defense=45% skills=4 medals=550 books=0 change:-6. Moltke the Younger: TA=127 defense=38% skills=5 medals=570 books=5 change: counter attack7. Mackensen: TA=121 defense=38% skills=5 medals=540 books=30 change: mountain fighting, counter attack and maneuver
8. Gough: TA=120 defense=38% skills=5 medals=520 books=30 change: sailor, counter attack and maneuverArtilery Kemal is better than dimitriev because his defense is much better and because dimitriev can only become a duke and therefore his skills are only lv4. 1. Hindenburg: TA=164 defense=45% skills=5 medals=740 books=0-5 change: I think landfort is great because city facilities are around cities and What does arty attack? That's right cities. But I know that isn't a populair opinion.2. Ivanov: TA=160 defense=42% skills=5 medals=710 books=5 change: mountain fighting3. Prince Leopold: TA=147 defense=38% skills=5 medals=710 books=5-10 change: counter attack and maybe landfort4. Hötzendorf: TA=122 defense=38% skills=4 medals=550 books=0 change:-5. Kemal: TA=119 defense=45% skills=4 gold=37500 books=10 change: desert fighting and counter attack6. Dimitriev: TA=123 defense=35% skills=5 medals=480 books=5 change: cover
7. Nicholas II: TA=107 defense=45% skills=4 gold=49100 books=5-10 change: explosives and maybe land fort8. Otto von Below: TA=102 defense=45% skills=4 gold=39400 books=5-10 change: cover and maybe land fort Navy 1. Beatty: TA=142 defense=38% skills=5 medals=670 books=0 change:- 2. Bacon: TA=148 defense=45% skills=4 medals=480 books=0 change:- 3. Duke of Aosta: TA=119 defense=38% skills=4 medals=450 books=0 change:- 1. Don’t diss my boi boreovic. He should be blue 2. Nicholas II seems to be the best out of him, below, and kemal. He’ll save tons of silver and gold medals investment as he starts out strong. Give him salvo and tactics master and he’ll be a solid anti tank (though a general like Leopold II will be significantly better at the expense of the same number of textbooks). |
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Post by ambitiousace on Jan 28, 2020 1:40:03 GMT
method: battle ability + infantry ability = TA (total ability) wich skills a general has aren't taken into account because of books. This is the best possible from of every general. For the cost comparison of books, the skills must meet two things: 1. They are all above average according to the list of Alexyx. 2. The skills are not bad when you combine them, think of attacking and defensive skills and more than one terrain skill (forest and mountains are an exception because they stack). So it doesn't matter to me whether the skills are the best as long as they are good. I think it is a waste of books, for example, to change forest to plain. infantry requiredgoodokay as a cheap alternativeonly if this is your main unit typebadterribleInfantry 1. E.Lee: TA=155 defense=45% skills: 5 medals:780 books:15 change:battle array and tunnel2. Haig: TA=150 defense=42% skills:5 medals=650 books=5 change:street fighting3: Boroevic: TA=148 defense=42% skills: 5 medals=650 books=5 change:battle array4: Bismarck TA=141 defense=45% skills: 4 medals=550 books=5-15 change:counterattack or change ambush and tactic master and make him defensive. 5: Macmahon TA=122 defense=38% skills: 5 medals=520 books=15 change:cover and counter attack6: Nicholas I TA=138 defense=45% skills: 4 medals=0 books=5 change:tunnel7: Micis TA=114 defense=38% skills: 5 medals=530 books=15 change:battle array and cover8: Garibaldi TA=146 defense=45% skills: 3 medals=540 books=0 change:-Cavarly 1. Jackson: TA=157 defense=45% skills=5 medals=0 books=5 change:station2. Sidney: TA=148 defense=42% skills=5 medals=620 books=5 change: counter attack3. Stepanovic: TA=149 defense=38% skills=5 medals=730 books=15 change:maneuver and cover4. Joffre: TA=148 defense=38% skills=5 medals=540 books=15 change: station and maneuver5. McClellan: TA=131 defense=45% skills=4 medals=550 books=0 change:-6. Moltke the Younger: TA=127 defense=38% skills=5 medals=570 books=5 change: counter attack7. Mackensen: TA=121 defense=38% skills=5 medals=540 books=30 change: mountain fighting, counter attack and maneuver
8. Gough: TA=120 defense=38% skills=5 medals=520 books=30 change: sailor, counter attack and maneuverArtilery Kemal is better than dimitriev because his defense is much better and because dimitriev can only become a duke and therefore his skills are only lv4. 1. Hindenburg: TA=164 defense=45% skills=5 medals=740 books=0-5 change: I think landfort is great because city facilities are around cities and What does arty attack? That's right cities. But I know that isn't a populair opinion.2. Ivanov: TA=160 defense=42% skills=5 medals=710 books=5 change: mountain fighting3. Prince Leopold: TA=147 defense=38% skills=5 medals=710 books=5-10 change: counter attack and maybe landfort4. Hötzendorf: TA=122 defense=38% skills=4 medals=550 books=0 change:-5. Kemal: TA=119 defense=45% skills=4 gold=37500 books=10 change: desert fighting and counter attack6. Dimitriev: TA=123 defense=35% skills=5 medals=480 books=5 change: cover
7. Nicholas II: TA=107 defense=45% skills=4 gold=49100 books=5-10 change: explosives and maybe land fort8. Otto von Below: TA=102 defense=45% skills=4 gold=39400 books=5-10 change: cover and maybe land fort Navy 1. Beatty: TA=142 defense=38% skills=5 medals=670 books=0 change:- 2. Bacon: TA=148 defense=45% skills=4 medals=480 books=0 change:- 3. Duke of Aosta: TA=119 defense=38% skills=4 medals=450 books=0 change:- 1. Don’t diss my boi boreovic. He should be blue 2. Nicholas II seems to be the best out of him, below, and kemal. He’ll save tons of silver and gold medals investment as he starts out strong. Give him salvo and tactics master and he’ll be a solid anti tank (though a general like Leopold II will be significantly better at the expense of the same number of textbooks). At least make butcher haig and boroevic same colour and Nicholas costs only GOLDS!I could use some of them to accompany my lonely jackson and hotzendorf(Grant can rot himself tbh) |
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Post by Navia Lanoira on Jan 28, 2020 10:10:52 GMT
1. Don’t diss my boi boreovic. He should be blue 2. Nicholas II seems to be the best out of him, below, and kemal. He’ll save tons of silver and gold medals investment as he starts out strong. Give him salvo and tactics master and he’ll be a solid anti tank (though a general like Leopold II will be significantly better at the expense of the same number of textbooks). At least make butcher haig and boroevic same colour and Nicholas costs only GOLDS!I could use some of them to accompany my lonely jackson and hotzendorf(Grant can rot himself tbh) Is nicholas a free gen? |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Jan 28, 2020 10:11:21 GMT
At least make butcher haig and boroevic same colour and Nicholas costs only GOLDS!I could use some of them to accompany my lonely jackson and hotzendorf(Grant can rot himself tbh) Is nicholas a free gen? no, but costs gold which is pretty handy |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jan 28, 2020 12:52:59 GMT
no, but costs gold which is pretty handy But unlimited if you play conquest often. |
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Post by Gone on Jan 28, 2020 14:48:59 GMT
I know that you guys love Jungle and Mountain Fighting, but when I look at Boroevic, I think “No way! This guy needs FOUR skills to be replaced!” because I find those two terrain bonuses alongside Formation Master and Battle Array useless. Formation Master is tolerable, though, just because it gives you a false sense of usefulness.
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Post by SolidLight on Jan 28, 2020 14:53:38 GMT
I know that you guys love Jungle and Mountain Fighting, but when I look at Boroevic, I think “No way! This guy needs FOUR skills to be replaced!” because I find those two terrain bonuses alongside Formation Master and Battle Array useless. He’s an infantry general. Mountain forests are good on those because they don’t get slowed down by terrain. Also, there’s a ton of forests on the map. They’re almost as plentiful as plains. |
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Post by Seger on Jan 28, 2020 15:08:08 GMT
I know that you guys love Jungle and Mountain Fighting, but when I look at Boroevic, I think “No way! This guy needs FOUR skills to be replaced!” because I find those two terrain bonuses alongside Formation Master and Battle Array useless. He’s an infantry general. Mountain forests are good on those because they don’t get slowed down by terrain. Also, there’s a ton of forests on the map. They’re almost as plentiful as plains. And 50% of the mountains is forest and mountain combined, +50% damage! |
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Post by Gone on Jan 28, 2020 15:08:23 GMT
I know that you guys love Jungle and Mountain Fighting, but when I look at Boroevic, I think “No way! This guy needs FOUR skills to be replaced!” because I find those two terrain bonuses alongside Formation Master and Battle Array useless. He’s an infantry general. Mountain forests are good on those because they don’t get slowed down by terrain. Also, there’s a ton of forests on the map. They’re almost as plentiful as plains. I don’t like to having to look around the map and deliberately run to the terrain. |
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Post by Gone on Jan 28, 2020 15:09:19 GMT
He’s an infantry general. Mountain forests are good on those because they don’t get slowed down by terrain. Also, there’s a ton of forests on the map. They’re almost as plentiful as plains. And 50% of the mountains is forest and mountain combined, +50% damage! Just like John in EW6 who is just a green general with much better stats unless you love to micromanage him all the time. |
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Post by SolidLight on Jan 28, 2020 15:38:10 GMT
He’s an infantry general. Mountain forests are good on those because they don’t get slowed down by terrain. Also, there’s a ton of forests on the map. They’re almost as plentiful as plains. I don’t like to having to look around the map and deliberately run to the terrain. I’m telling you, forests are plentiful. Only issue is that they slow you down, which doesn’t matter for infantry. There’s very little micromanagement, and micromanagement isn’t even a bad thing unless you have to compromise your plans. |
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Post by Gone on Jan 28, 2020 15:52:30 GMT
I don’t like to having to look around the map and deliberately run to the terrain. I’m telling you, forests are plentiful. Only issue is that they slow you down, which doesn’t matter for infantry. There’s very little micromanagement, and micromanagement isn’t even a bad thing unless you have to compromise your plans. That’s exactly what I’m afraid of. |
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