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Post by Seger on Feb 12, 2020 14:59:12 GMT
I don’t know, because we don’t what denta’s TA is. If that isn’t higher then the TA of Joffre, Joffre will be better because skill don’t really matter I don’t agree 100% cause the point of this topic is to compare about price. Books have an hight price, so skill set is very important. But if we mind only at perfection, then i agree Yeah but 15 books is 1 week of watching 4 adds a day, if I can get 5% more damage for a few minutes of my time it’s totally worth it
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Feb 12, 2020 15:00:35 GMT
history mode only involves Germany and Russia for what we know so far. But you are right, they might be needed, however a wait and see approach is still the safest unless you are in desperate need for another cavalry general. And why not spend extra medals to get that little bit of offensive superiority? After all medals are quite abundant unless you have wasted all your med-packs early on (like me ) You are right that medals are a lot, but they are needed for books and silver medals too. And i was asking for the difference because they are very similar and the biggest difference is the price and the title/rank (that costs silver medals too). I think that one of Joffre or Step are better than McCellan, but this one has the great advantage to don’t need books (respect to 15-30 for the previous 2). So after all I should get what is better, cause books are the most important resource well if you are willing to, 2 textbook from ads (minimally) daily can give you 14 textbooks in one week, enough for 1 skill reset (afterall moral of the story is dont get gens that need heavy skill tweaking)
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Post by Navia Lanoira on Feb 12, 2020 15:03:39 GMT
^just do think what changes you will do carefully, and if its worth it or not.
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Post by Seger on Feb 12, 2020 15:04:14 GMT
You are right that medals are a lot, but they are needed for books and silver medals too. And i was asking for the difference because they are very similar and the biggest difference is the price and the title/rank (that costs silver medals too). I think that one of Joffre or Step are better than McCellan, but this one has the great advantage to don’t need books (respect to 15-30 for the previous 2). So after all I should get what is better, cause books are the most important resource well if you are willing to, 2 textbook from ads (minimally) daily can give you 14 textbooks in one week, enough for 1 skill reset (afterall moral of the story is dont get gens that need heavy skill tweaking) If the discussion is about McClellan vs Joffre the I would say Joffre, Why? Because Joffre is stronger and yes it will take books but it’s a good way to use them. And you’re going to need everything you can get if you want to complete the game
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Post by scipioafricanus on Feb 12, 2020 15:09:49 GMT
well if you are willing to, 2 textbook from ads (minimally) daily can give you 14 textbooks in one week, enough for 1 skill reset (afterall moral of the story is dont get gens that need heavy skill tweaking) If the discussion is about McClellan vs Joffre the I would say Joffre, Why? Because Joffre is stronger and yes it will take books but it’s a good way to use them. And you’re going to need everything you can get if you want to complete the game Actually is more for a personal plasure cause conquests are very easy and the hardest challenges are about no generals
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Post by Navia Lanoira on Feb 12, 2020 15:15:37 GMT
If the discussion is about McClellan vs Joffre the I would say Joffre, Why? Because Joffre is stronger and yes it will take books but it’s a good way to use them. And you’re going to need everything you can get if you want to complete the game Actually is more for a personal plasure cause conquests are very easy and the hardest challenges are about no generals 0-1 generals, fyi.
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Post by Seger on Mar 5, 2020 18:13:25 GMT
The list has been upgraded
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Post by Gone on Mar 5, 2020 20:36:37 GMT
method: battle ability + infantry ability = TA (total ability) wich skills a general has aren't taken into account because of books. This is the best possible from of every general. For the cost comparison of books, the skills must meet two things: 1. They are all above average according to the list of Alexyx. 2. The skills are not bad when you combine them, think of attacking and defensive skills and more than one terrain skill (forest and mountains are an exception because they stack). So it doesn't matter to me whether the skills are the best as long as they are good. I think it is a waste of books, for example, to change forest to plain. infantry requiredgoodokay as a cheap alternativeonly if this is your main unit typebadterrible
Infantry 1. Straußenburg: TA=155 defense=42% skills=5 medals=635 books=5 change: mountain fighting 2. E.Lee: TA=155 defense=45% skills: 5 medals:780 books:15 change:battle array and tunnel 3. Haig: TA=150 defense=42% skills:5 medals=650 books=5 change:street fighting4. Boroevic: TA=148 defense=42% skills: 5 medals=650 books=5 change:battle array5: Macmahon TA=122 defense=38% skills: 5 medals=520 books=15 change:cover and counter attack
6: Bochkareva: TA=122 defense=38% skills: 5 medals=520 books=15 change: mountain fighting and cover7: Micis TA=114 defense=38% skills: 5 medals=530 books=15 change:battle array and cover
8: Bismarck TA=141 defense=45% skills: 4 medals=550 books=5 change:counterattack 9: Nicholas I TA=138 defense=45% skills: 4 medals=0 books=5 change:tunnel10: Garibaldi TA=146 defense=45% skills: 3 medals=540 books=0 change:-Cavarly 1. Jackson: TA=157 defense=45% skills=5 medals=0 books=5 change:station
2. Plumer TA=155 defense=42% skills=5 medals=770 books=15 change: ridingmaster and alert3.Sidney: TA=148 defense=42% skills=5 medals=620 books=5 change: counter attack4. Stepanovic: TA=149 defense=38% skills=5 medals=730 books=15 change:maneuver and cover5. Joffre: TA=148 defense=38% skills=5 medals=540 books=15 change: station and maneuver6. Moltke the Younger: TA=127 defense=38% skills=5 medals=570 books=5 change: counter attack 7. Mackensen: TA=121 defense=38% skills=5 medals=540 books=15 change: counter attack and maneuver 8. Gough: TA=120 defense=38% skills=5 medals=520 books=25 change: sailor, counter attack and maneuver9: Nikolaevich: TA=93 defense=45% skills=5 gold=22700 books=15 change: desert fighting and riding master10. McClellan: TA=131 defense=45% skills=4 medals=550 books=0 change:-Artilery Kemal is better than dimitriev because his defense is much better and because dimitriev can only become a duke and therefore his skills are only lv4. the choice between kemal and nicolas is about one thing: do you prefer land fort or do you prefer inspiration 1. Hindenburg: TA=164 defense=45% skills=5 medals=740 books=5 change: landfort 2. Ivanov: TA=160 defense=42% skills=5 medals=710 books=5 change: inspiration
3. Beseler TA=155 defense=42% skills=5 medals=750 books=5 change: plain fighting 3. Prince Leopold: TA=147 defense=38% skills=5 medals=710 books=10 change: counter attack and landfort 5. Hötzendorf: TA=122 defense=38% skills=4 medals=550 books=0 change:-6. Kemal: TA=119 defense=45% skills=4 gold=37500 books=10 change: desert fighting and counter attack7. Dimitriev: TA=123 defense=35% skills=5 medals=480 books=5 change: cover 8. Nicholas II: TA=107 defense=45% skills=4 gold=49100 books=10 change: explosives, counter attack and land fort 9. Otto von Below: TA=102 defense=45% skills=4 gold=39400 books=10 change: cover and land fort Navy 1. Hipper TA=160 defense=42% skills=5 medals=720 books=5 change: inspiration 2. Beatty: TA=142 defense=38% skills=5 medals=670 books=0 change:- 3. Bacon: TA=148 defense=45% skills=4 medals=480 books=0 change:- 4. Duke of Aosta: TA=119 defense=38% skills=4 medals=450 books=0 change:-
I like how ET also gave the terrain skills mobility boosts. Mountain Fighting is now really good because you can use it to get through mountains easily, which can be a huge tactical advantage. What I also like, however, is that it doesn’t warrant (at least immediate) replacement for Plain Fighting if PF is the only terrain bonus. You can replace it if you want. But that should be one of the last things in your “To-do” list.
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Post by Seger on Mar 5, 2020 20:54:46 GMT
I would only advise to Replace plain fighting for mountain by arty gens Why? Because infantry already has march and armored cars still cant move through mountains
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Mar 5, 2020 23:28:10 GMT
I would only advise to Replace plain fighting for mountain by arty gens Why? Because infantry already has march and armored cars still cant move through mountains Wait what? Thats kind of a huge drawback, the main reason why cavalry need mountain fighting to move about is to be able to traverse those annoying large mountains... what a let down
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Post by SolidLight on Mar 6, 2020 0:06:48 GMT
I would only advise to Replace plain fighting for mountain by arty gens Why? Because infantry already has march and armored cars still cant move through mountains Wait what? Thats kind of a huge drawback, the main reason why cavalry need mountain fighting to move about is to be able to traverse those annoying large mountains... what a let down Well, atleast forest is effective. (Stonewall Jackson OP)
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Mar 6, 2020 0:23:21 GMT
A couple things:
Besseler is the best of the new added generals. He is absolutely op and only recquires 5 textbooks to utilize his full potential unlike other artillery generals. He is absolutely op (deserves blue).
Moltke should be added to this list. He is very good after 15 textbooks are invested, heck even with 5 you can still make him op. He is prince rank at max and his battle ability is good. He is basically a dabrowski who got buffed from duke.
Plummer should be green. He is good but very expensive. It will be a while before you need him considering molkte and stonewall jackson (and even phillip sheridan who starts off pretty solid).
Nikolaevich does not have riding master. Not a big issue but it would be very interesting to see what skills need to be changed.
Thats pretty much it though. Nice list
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Post by Seger on Mar 6, 2020 5:08:07 GMT
I would only advise to Replace plain fighting for mountain by arty gens Why? Because infantry already has march and armored cars still cant move through mountains Wait what? Thats kind of a huge drawback, the main reason why cavalry need mountain fighting to move about is to be able to traverse those annoying large mountains... what a let down I think it a cool feature, now we have plain fighting for inf, mountain fighting for arty and jungle fighting for cav
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Mar 6, 2020 5:49:44 GMT
Wait what? Thats kind of a huge drawback, the main reason why cavalry need mountain fighting to move about is to be able to traverse those annoying large mountains... what a let down I think it a cool feature, now we have plain fighting for inf, mountain fighting for arty and jungle fighting for cav Hmm yes, at least there is jungle fighting for cavalry since they are crucial artillery counters.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Mar 6, 2020 17:36:42 GMT
Wait what? Thats kind of a huge drawback, the main reason why cavalry need mountain fighting to move about is to be able to traverse those annoying large mountains... what a let down I think it a cool feature, now we have plain fighting for inf, mountain fighting for arty and jungle fighting for cav Dang should have kept molke’s mountain fighting then. That also means that boreovic (with machine gunners) nikolaevich and radko dimitriev are much better than we give them credit for.
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