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Post by ProConqueror on May 12, 2021 13:54:32 GMT
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 12, 2021 14:17:21 GMT
Hitler made a bunch of military blunders. If he was in this game he'd have no stars and no skill slots, and no hp either. LOL, so did every other general in the history of the world. Napoleon? Zhukov? Rommel? Monty? Ushijima? (Kuri did not, I'll give you that.) I say he should have Blitz 2, Inf Leader 4, Economic Expert 4, Industrial Expert 4, and Tide of Iron 3, with 3*s a piece in Inf, Arty, Tanks, Movement, and 2 in Air and Navy. That way, it reflects on him historically. He was a good leader, and if you consider the Manstein Plan, Barbarossa, the rejection of Plan Z in favor of Subs, Kiev, and others, instead of solely Stalingrad, N. Africa, and Normandy, you will find he was a strong and shrewd leader, with a flair for originality, and having excellent tactical sense, although lacking in strategic sense. In addition, as head of the Armed Forces he would be a Marshal. That being said, he was a horrible person, much like Guderian or Graziani. |
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Post by idunnowhattocallthis on May 12, 2021 15:49:16 GMT
Barbarossa was a HORRIBLE plan, Choosing to invade the largest military power on the planet and thinking you can wipe out their army in a couple weeks was sheer lunacy.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 12, 2021 16:25:04 GMT
Barbarossa was a HORRIBLE plan, Choosing to invade the largest military power on the planet and thinking you can wipe out their army in a couple weeks was sheer lunacy. Were they aware that the Soviets were a strong military power? They just looked to the Winter War,to the inefficency during the Soviet invasion of Poland, and the majority of their divisions were much smaller than a German one. The Purge effects were only starting to wear off, it was clearly not ready for war, it was the only power Germany could fight (outside of N. Africa, which was pretty trivial), and it had every military analyst in the world sure of the Soviets' defeat. |
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Post by John Marston on May 16, 2021 6:46:10 GMT
Barbarossa was a HORRIBLE plan, Choosing to invade the largest military power on the planet and thinking you can wipe out their army in a couple weeks was sheer lunacy. It was actually a good plan. But there weren't any supplies |
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Post by Thortilla on May 24, 2021 17:57:42 GMT
  EW6-4 |
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Post by zink on May 24, 2021 23:51:39 GMT
Barbarossa was a HORRIBLE plan, Choosing to invade the largest military power on the planet and thinking you can wipe out their army in a couple weeks was sheer lunacy. It was actually a good plan. But there weren't any supplies Which is why it was a horrible plan |
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Post by zink on May 24, 2021 23:55:16 GMT
EW6-4 Not a complete ripoff It has some pretty cool features It doesn't straight up steal icons either, I kinda like it Although it's pretty easy it tries hard to get you to buy stuff |
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Post by John Marston on May 25, 2021 13:11:42 GMT
It was actually a good plan. But there weren't any supplies Which is why it was a horrible plan What's up with the plan? He planned to take Moscow before winter which didn't fail, but failed miserably |
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Post by John Marston on May 25, 2021 13:13:12 GMT
Thortilla, did Napoleon really said that "I should had conquered the world"?
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Post by zink on May 25, 2021 17:42:58 GMT
Which is why it was a horrible plan What's up with the plan? He planned to take Moscow before winter which didn't fail, but failed miserably Can you retype that | ... before winter which didn't fail, but failed miserably |
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Post by John Marston on May 26, 2021 5:27:25 GMT
What's up with the plan? He planned to take Moscow before winter which didn't fail, but failed miserably Can you retype that | ... before winter which didn't fail, but failed miserablyHe planned to take Moscow here zink, I retyped |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2021 6:35:57 GMT
Barabarossa was not a bad plan. Germany destroyed destroyed more Soviets armies and equipment than they thought they would
For example their Intel told that Soviets had 4500 tanks. They destroyed more than that number in 3 months. Actual number of Soviet tanks at start of war was 11000+.
Hitler thought that younger generation of USSR hated Stalin's regime and would rise up against Bolsheviks and join the Nazis.
They didn't irl.
Germans thought they would surrender by the time they capture Minsk. They didn't surrender irl.
Germans did not knew the true strength and willingness to fight of Soviets.
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Post by STILETT0 on May 29, 2021 14:45:38 GMT
Barabarossa was not a bad plan. Germany destroyed destroyed more Soviets armies and equipment than they thought they would For example their Intel told that Soviets had 4500 tanks. They destroyed more than that number in 3 months. Actual number of Soviet tanks at start of war was 11000+. Hitler thought that younger generation of USSR hated Stalin's regime and would rise up against Bolsheviks and join the Nazis. They didn't irl. Germans thought they would surrender by the time they capture Minsk. They didn't surrender irl. Germans did not knew the true strength and willingness to fight of Soviets. Let's look at AG Center of Barbarossa. Guderian raged forward all the way to Smolensk, only 60 km from Moscow, but then Hitler told him to stop after encountering an battalion of T-34s. Hoth And Bock were still cleaning up the mess of encirclements that Guderian had left behind him, but once their armies came to reinforce Guderian's, they could have easily launched a successful decapitation strike at Moscow, and forced the Soviets to surrender, but Hitler told Guderian to stop to divert units to Leningrad. Barbarossa only failed because of the Germans hesitation. |
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2021 0:26:59 GMT
Barabarossa was not a bad plan. Germany destroyed destroyed more Soviets armies and equipment than they thought they would For example their Intel told that Soviets had 4500 tanks. They destroyed more than that number in 3 months. Actual number of Soviet tanks at start of war was 11000+. Hitler thought that younger generation of USSR hated Stalin's regime and would rise up against Bolsheviks and join the Nazis. They didn't irl. Germans thought they would surrender by the time they capture Minsk. They didn't surrender irl. Germans did not knew the true strength and willingness to fight of Soviets. Let's look at AG Center of Barbarossa. Guderian raged forward all the way to Smolensk, only 60 km from Moscow, but then Hitler told him to stop after encountering an battalion of T-34s. Hoth And Bock were still cleaning up the mess of encirclements that Guderian had left behind him, but once their armies came to reinforce Guderian's, they could have easily launched a successful decapitation strike at Moscow, and forced the Soviets to surrender, but Hitler told Guderian to stop to divert units to Leningrad. Barbarossa only failed because of the Germans hesitation. It is not necessary that those attacks would have been successful, Moscow was a well defended area. Though German hesitation can one of the reasons. |
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