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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Apr 22, 2020 12:58:07 GMT
 Archduke CPrice: 8 Emblems Type of General: Infantry & Cavarly Hybrid Starting Movement: 3 hexes on all infantry except Machine Gunners, 2 hexes on machine gunners, 4 hexes on light and heavy cavarly, 3 hexes on horse grenadiers and armored cars. Archuke Charles is essentially Sakurako w/o Accurate. Other than an extra training stars, and better stars in some areas, Archduke Charles isn't much of an improvement. Why get an iap whose job a princess can do just fine. Not recommended. I was curious for your analysis - The Archeduce C you get in HRE as a starter General in Vienna (on triple guards!) is doing a great job - he is one of the rare starting generals who can work solo on a front line (west Ottoman front - Beograd Athens / Izmir), so I was curious. Comparing a IAP general with one elite princess (Sakurake is the elite hybrid princess) is problematic as the girls just have small clouds on their shining setup. Don't you buy IAP's just to get them? Once again your review was 'at the point. Hmm. Archduke Charles is decent I certainly agree. Hence why he isn’t in the red but in the orange tier. Imo him on cavarly is the main reason to get him as a cavarly general with 5 training stars is certainly going to be very helpful. The trouble is that is strike really better than massena’s surprise + leadership + 4 stars. If you need a cavarly general with that many training stars, Radetsky or even Massena are much better options. Well, I kind of agree. But most people have Sakurako not as an elite princess but as a getting from point a to b princess. Most people would have Sophia, Isabella, Lan, Victoria and maybe Kate as their elite princesses, since they are all focused. I am just pointing out that there are qualities where the princesses outshine the iaps. Example, Isabella is miles better than Moreau. So imo, its also important to consider how useful the iaps will be after all of the princess are obtained. I am also going off the logic that if someone is willing to buy an 8 emblem general, they are willing to get more slots. As for the last point, it is very hard to argue against that. A secondary objective to purchasing iaps is definitely to have fun with using them. But imo Archduke Charles is not one of those. A person who purchases iaps for the heck of it would probably consider Suvorov due to his 4 infantry skills, Moreau as he is the same just on artillery, or Lassalle as he starts off maxed. Archduke Charles is not an easy to use general as he lacks mass fire. He is not one of those shiny iap generals that easily appeal to noobs. And furthermore to add to that point, there are generals who can both be useful and be great collectibles so the speak. Nelson for example is a very famous general and even seen as a hero during the napoleonic war times. With him being purchased, the user would have both a very useful general and someone they can brag about having. Wellesley is another general like that, who is Archduke C with Leadership. Or maybe Washington as they want to be patriotic. Archduke Charles, although a very competent opponent to napoleon, is not someone that is widely respected. Most people have forgotten that he exists. |
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Post by ambitiousace on Apr 22, 2020 13:47:25 GMT
He's one of the most respected person by Napoleon,himself too.Too bad he got downplayed by the act of jealousy
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Apr 22, 2020 13:48:28 GMT
 Jervis Price: 8 EmblemsStarting Movement: 3 hexes on frigates, 2 hexes on battleships and ironclads. Jervis is the best navy general of the iap tier. Not even Nelson is stronger. But really, he only has 2 skills that help his navy side shine: steersmann and leadership. So you are buying a navy general with only 2 skills. His land side is awful as the skills he offers it is sailor and economic master, although he does possess leadership which is a pretty huge plus. Even though he possesses good trading stars, his economic side is pretty weak. If he had architecture rather than sailor, he would be hands down better than dearborn at being an economic hybrid. So even if he possesses leadership, he is still a pretty meh land unit hybrid, with leadership and nothing else. And Nelson costs the same price, yet is a phenomenal artillery general on land. Furthermore, Kate, who is free, is a navy general with 3 good skills. Poniatowski, who costs 6 emblems rather than 8, also has 3 skills on navy, one of which is leadership, and is miles better than Jervis on land. If he had better land skills, he could have been one of the better iaps. But as it stands now, he leaves a lot to be desired. One of the more curious IAPs. Because on paper, he is a really strong general. But once you realize he only has 2 good skills, you are turned from buying him. He also can’t have a snair drum, a firetruck, or a propeller at the same time. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Apr 22, 2020 13:51:35 GMT
He's one of the most respected person by Napoleon,himself too.Too bad he got downplayed by the act of jealousy Luckily Archduke Charles is the best infantry general in the sequel. Many of the bad generals in ew4 become good in ew6 (massena, napoleon, blucher, karl), likewise many the good generals in ew4 become bad generals in ew6 (radetsky and many of the middle tier generals like dobeln and golitsyn). |
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Post by 𝘛𝘳𝘰𝘵𝘴𝘬𝘺 on Apr 22, 2020 13:54:53 GMT
I was curious for your analysis - The Archeduce C you get in HRE as a starter General in Vienna (on triple guards!) is doing a great job - he is one of the rare starting generals who can work solo on a front line (west Ottoman front - Beograd Athens / Izmir), so I was curious. Comparing a IAP general with one elite princess (Sakurake is the elite hybrid princess) is problematic as the girls just have small clouds on their shining setup. Don't you buy IAP's just to get them? Once again your review was 'at the point. Hmm. Archduke Charles is decent I certainly agree. Hence why he isn’t in the red but in the orange tier. Imo him on cavarly is the main reason to get him as a cavarly general with 5 training stars is certainly going to be very helpful. The trouble is that is strike really better than massena’s surprise + leadership + 4 stars. If you need a cavarly general with that many training stars, Radetsky or even Massena are much better options. Well, I kind of agree. But most people have Sakurako not as an elite princess but as a getting from point a to b princess. Most people would have Sophia, Isabella, Lan, Victoria and maybe Kate as their elite princesses, since they are all focused. I am just pointing out that there are qualities where the princesses outshine the iaps. Example, Isabella is miles better than Moreau. So imo, its also important to consider how useful the iaps will be after all of the princess are obtained. I am also going off the logic that if someone is willing to buy an 8 emblem general, they are willing to get more slots. As for the last point, it is very hard to argue against that. A secondary objective to purchasing iaps is definitely to have fun with using them. But imo Archduke Charles is not one of those. A person who purchases iaps for the heck of it would probably consider Suvorov due to his 4 infantry skills, Moreau as he is the same just on artillery, or Lassalle as he starts off maxed. Archduke Charles is not an easy to use general as he lacks mass fire. He is not one of those shiny iap generals that easily appeal to noobs. And furthermore to add to that point, there are generals who can both be useful and be great collectibles so the speak. Nelson for example is a very famous general and even seen as a hero during the napoleonic war times. With him being purchased, the user would have both a very useful general and someone they can brag about having. Wellesley is another general like that, who is Archduke C with Leadership. Or maybe Washington as they want to be patriotic. Archduke Charles, although a very competent opponent to napoleon, is not someone that is widely respected. Most people have forgotten that he exists. Exact - I'm with you in every single argument you bring - nothing to add! I just noticed him in campaign as one of the rare really good starting generals - so strong that as a beginner I would have an extra eye on his evaluation - you explain perfect how to analyse the qualities of a general - for sure this guide is a 'must read' before to purchase anybody. |
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Post by ambitiousace on Apr 22, 2020 14:06:05 GMT
Which is why he deserves to be the respected guru in this forum..Never fails to manipulate my view on his analysis😂
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Post by 𝘛𝘳𝘰𝘵𝘴𝘬𝘺 on Apr 22, 2020 14:31:00 GMT
Jervis Price: 8 EmblemsStarting Movement: 3 hexes on frigates, 2 hexes on battleships and ironclads. Jervis is the best navy general of the iap tier. Not even Nelson is stronger. But really, he only has 2 skills that help his navy side shine: steersmann and leadership. So you are buying a navy general with only 2 skills. His land side is awful as the skills he offers it is sailor and economic master, although he does possess leadership which is a pretty huge plus. Even though he possesses good trading stars, his economic side is pretty weak. If he had architecture rather than sailor, he would be hands down better than dearborn at being an economic hybrid. So even if he possesses leadership, he is still a pretty meh land unit hybrid, with leadership and nothing else. And Nelson costs the same price, yet is a phenomenal artillery general on land. Furthermore, Kate, who is free, is a navy general with 3 good skills. Poniatowski, who costs 6 emblems rather than 8, also has 3 skills on navy, one of which is leadership, and is miles better than Jervis on land. If he had better land skills, he could have been one of the better iaps. But as it stands now, he leaves a lot to be desired. One of the more curious IAPs. Because on paper, he is a really strong general. But once you realize he only has 2 good skills, you are turned from buying him. He also can’t have a snair drum, a firetruck, or a propeller at the same time. Again: 👍🏼 I though first - with a snair, this can be a good econ defender on artillery, and his naval skills are nice for landing missions. But I don't see any use for a city defender: - In the campaign Fatima will do this job until the end (probably she got the most damage of all generals during the campaign but her combination of Architecture and Econ Master is crucial for many missions) - In conquests you conquerer, you need offensive generals there So where is the use of an eco city defense? Propeller (move) and Snair (combat) are not used together. PS.: Maybe it's useful to add in the skill analysis with which item, if possible, a skill can be substituted |
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Post by Darth Vader on Apr 22, 2020 14:33:49 GMT
They should have added more stars to carvery skill or got rid of strike and added formation or mass fire.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Apr 22, 2020 15:03:12 GMT
One of the more curious IAPs. Because on paper, he is a really strong general. But once you realize he only has 2 good skills, you are turned from buying him. He also can’t have a snair drum, a firetruck, or a propeller at the same time. Again: 👍🏼 I though first - with a snair, this can be a good econ defender on artillery, and his naval skills are nice for landing missions. But I don't see any use for a city defender: - In the campaign Fatima will do this job until the end (probably she got the most damage of all generals during the campaign but her combination of Architecture and Econ Master is crucial for many missions) - In conquests you conquerer, you need offensive generals there So where is the use of an eco city defense? Propeller (move) and Snair (combat) are not used together. PS.: Maybe it's useful to add in the skill analysis with which item, if possible, a skill can be substituted Idk. A snair drum on artillery seems a waste. Imo it belongs on the cavarly. The only exception to this rule is wellesley (who with a snair drum can be very strong) or radetsky/sakurako, whose training stars pretty much get rid of their dependence on snair drums. I would mention lan but not giving her a snair drum would be a crime cuz of how good she is. Not to mention jervis movement is really bad. On artillery, leader alone is pretty meh. I don’t see many people purchssing prevost on this forum, and he is literally jervis on artillery. Not to mention Nelson costs the same as Jervis, yet has more movement and accurate. Had jervis had one more great skill, he could have been a fantastic iap. He ends up being overpriced and mediocre. Plus leadership really isn’t that important on navy, as a good player can avoid being flanked in naval battles. The second point, maybe. I’ll add that under the skills crash course section. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Apr 22, 2020 15:15:40 GMT
They should have added more stars to carvery skill or got rid of strike and added formation or mass fire. Oh for Archduke Charles. Only mass fire would have taken him from orange to green. Then he would be dobeln with better survivability. But he would still be inferior to lannes due to the lack of leadership. Or giving him a skill like assualt art or leadership that works on both unit types |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Apr 22, 2020 15:16:24 GMT
Even with formation, he would still be dearborn without architecture
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Post by Darth Vader on Apr 22, 2020 17:52:49 GMT
Even with formation, he would still be dearborn without architecture Yeah I think people should revist and have some new updates in ew4. |
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Post by 𝘛𝘳𝘰𝘵𝘴𝘬𝘺 on Apr 22, 2020 19:38:38 GMT
I know it's slightly off topic but I even would like to understand how 'wortful' are the generals in nobility xp when you take them out - what determinates their worth?
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Post by Darth Vader on Apr 22, 2020 20:45:09 GMT
I also have the same question with units if soldiers do 1-12 damage is that a rating form Terrible to good or is something else?
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Apr 22, 2020 22:30:18 GMT
I know it's slightly off topic but I even would like to understand how 'wortful' are the generals in nobility xp when you take them out - what determinates their worth? What features of theirs make them useful in other words? Sure, I try to do that on every general but on some I might have forgotten to. |
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