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Post by Arya Stark on Jun 5, 2020 4:30:09 GMT
Plus Sulkowski is awesome so get him instead At least you haven't forgotten this thread existed. Your "short" break from running this here seems to have run a bit long. I guess you had a bit of trouble getting Diez to show up. Lol, he's in my academy right now |
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Post by 𝘛𝘳𝘰𝘵𝘴𝘬𝘺 on Jun 5, 2020 12:02:17 GMT
Plus Sulkowski is awesome so get him instead Thank you for your argumentation - I will point out mine step by step. Usage of heavy cavalry I don't understand why to analyse the usage of a high (1. or 2.) cavalry general on heavy cavalry - there basic units without bonus - nice for spamming (single) but really not for a good general. Heavy cavalry is similar to light Artillery Cost wise (double formation): Heavy Cavalry (555) ≈ Light Artillery (540) Guards Cavalry (845) ≈ Heavy Artillery (910) Apart that Guards Cavalry has higher max output (≈ 10-15%) it deals additional 50% to forts and ships - so: Guards Cavalry » Heavy Cavalry + Spy Armored Cars have a 25% higer max output than heavy cavalry and deal additional 35% to Inf. and additional 45% to Cav. but they are the most expensive Units in the game. For this reasons I can't see any practical benefit from geography (Berthier) for Cavalry (first Item - for all - is the War Horse) and why I think Spy for an Armored Car general will be perfect. Heavy cavalry is not a good unit - a typical Sakurako Unit in campaign (she always gets the last crappy units) - but for the evaluation of probably the best Cav general not really appropriate. |
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Post by SolidLight on Jun 5, 2020 13:53:40 GMT
 Berthier
If you are a 4 slot player, either get berthier and fully regroup him pre lan (lan with no regrouping is still pretty solid). Or don't get him at all. Golitsyn is a good alternative. If you have Davout/Poniatowski/Lannes, do not get BerthierPrice: 4 Emblems or 945 Medals Type of General: Cavarly Starting Movement: 3 hex on any cavarly While Berthier starts with 1 star movement and 1 star cavarly, after you regroup him, he will be a monster and imo the best general in the game (slightly better than lan as geography will alloy him to have an offensive item rather than a war horse). After you regroup him to 4/5 stars in cavarly, even though he will only have 1 star movement, he will have 3 consistent hex movement, which is more than most generals can offer, while also having pretty significant damage. He is not a complete waste either as 4 stars in trading and 3 training stars is pretty great. Overall, if you bother to max out berthier, he will be an extremely overpowered general and countries will collapse due to his attack. Just fantastic. Alright this part is a bit strange. You can switch out the war horse with an offensive item after you move. It's only movement items that you can't switch out for the warhorse. Which means that Berthier is potentially 1 space faster on Light/Heavy Cavalry where he can run a whopping 6 spaces. His attack is definetly worse than Lan, especially considering that she has Assault Art. |
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Post by 𝘛𝘳𝘰𝘵𝘴𝘬𝘺 on Jun 5, 2020 14:34:46 GMT
Plus Sulkowski is awesome so get him instead Now to compare LaSalle Don't get me wrong - I don't see any need for buying a combat general, but if you want to buy a (cavalary) general why not IMO the best? So compared to the IAP alternatives Murat and Dombrowski Murat has Assault Art, Surprise and Spy - nice. With Spy he has the 50% additional damage to forts what is a big plus. Assault Art is nice - and a lot of fun while playing - but the statistical increase of your average damage is sadly far below the increase LaSalle gets from mobility. Sadly Murat has only surprise and not strike - this is the K.O. criteria against Murat - half of the land has cavalry evasion: trees, hills, fences, cities, factories and stables! (and all sea 5%-10%?) Murat has advances against forts Murat can have more times critical damages with AssultArt. If AA triggers on a hex with evasion it will be still -5% to -45% for the lack of strike. neverll other situations LaSalle will deal higher up to drastical higher damage. Murat has two more training⭐ - nice for the beginner but the lack of 2 Dietz are the bigger pain. Trotzky: LaSalle >> Murat P.S. If Assault Art triggers on low health (less probable) it will give the lower maximum critical damage - so never forget the snair with reduced healt Dombrowski locks for me better than Murat. At least he has strike so he can be used as an cavalry general for all purposes. Again the first thing: Missing ⭐! 2⭐move and 1⭐cav - for an IAP! - this is horrible - spending money and your general is still not ready. (Sakurako offers much more for free) The skills: Banner, Defense Art <=> Mobility, bdamma Sadly there only +1 and +2 banner (attack, defense, supply) in the game - their effects are too low so this skill is barely used. If there would been +4 or +6 banner this can be a good skill for infantry. Defense Art is really good, not reliable but it helps (≈ 1 time per mission). And again: more training ⭐ than LaSalle. Overall Dombrowski has better survivability for the price of slightly less dammage due to LaSalle's mobility - and 1455🎖 just to make him comparable. (1452🎖 = 121 * 60HP medipacks) + Sailor For a strong cavalary general Sailor is one of the really useful additional skills. In the campaign not only for landing missions - many times there attacks from sea - one step in the water and the problems are finished. But Cav needs snair and pistols, I noticed many times that the carrier occupies the needed second slot. Which are the Useful additional skills? Assault Art, Defense Art, Leadership, Sailor, Spy other? For now I'm not convinced. For me LaSalle always looks superior. If a player wants to buy a cavalry general - why not the best?
And ready on top - without the need of any additional trainers!I was amazed for your rating. (I'm still) |
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Post by 𝘛𝘳𝘰𝘵𝘴𝘬𝘺 on Jun 5, 2020 14:58:41 GMT
Berthier
If you are a 4 slot player, either get berthier and fully regroup him pre lan (lan with no regrouping is still pretty solid). Or don't get him at all. Golitsyn is a good alternative. If you have Davout/Poniatowski/Lannes, do not get BerthierPrice: 4 Emblems or 945 Medals Type of General: Cavarly Starting Movement: 3 hex on any cavarly While Berthier starts with 1 star movement and 1 star cavarly, after you regroup him, he will be a monster and imo the best general in the game (slightly better than lan as geography will alloy him to have an offensive item rather than a war horse). After you regroup him to 4/5 stars in cavarly, even though he will only have 1 star movement, he will have 3 consistent hex movement, which is more than most generals can offer, while also having pretty significant damage. He is not a complete waste either as 4 stars in trading and 3 training stars is pretty great. Overall, if you bother to max out berthier, he will be an extremely overpowered general and countries will collapse due to his attack. Just fantastic. Alright this part is a bit strange. You can switch out the war horse with an offensive item after you move. It's only movement items that you can't switch out for the warhorse. Which means that Berthier is potentially 1 space faster on Light/Heavy Cavalry where he can run a whopping 6 spaces. His attack is definetly worse than Lan, especially considering that she has Assault Art. Yes, with a second saddle he can (after a few k🎖) - but only on light and heavy cavalry, I just pointed out why these units are not suitable for a good general. Considering you invested enough that they have equal ⭐ their damage will be also equal for the same damage skills. LAN will arrive more times to deal the maximum damage what makes her average damage higher (2-5% ?) - In fights without triggering AA their damage should be equal. |
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Post by Darth Vader on Jun 5, 2020 15:09:49 GMT
Alright this part is a bit strange. You can switch out the war horse with an offensive item after you move. It's only movement items that you can't switch out for the warhorse. Which means that Berthier is potentially 1 space faster on Light/Heavy Cavalry where he can run a whopping 6 spaces. His attack is definetly worse than Lan, especially considering that she has Assault Art. Yes, with a second saddle he can (after a few k🎖) - but only on light and heavy cavalry, I just pointed out why these units are not suitable for a good general. Considering you invested enough that they have equal ⭐ their damage will be equal due to an equal damage skill set. LAN will arrive more times to deal the maximum damage what makes her average damage higher (2-5% ?) - In fights without triggering AA their damage should be equal. Looks like they mixed up the stats. A 4 star Artillery general with 2 Calvary stats and a fence. That doesn't make any sense. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jun 7, 2020 0:53:55 GMT
Plus Sulkowski is awesome so get him instead Now to compare LaSalle Don't get me wrong - I don't see any need for buying a combat general, but if you want to buy a (cavalary) general why not IMO the best? So compared to the IAP alternatives Murat and Dombrowski Murat has Assault Art, Surprise and Spy - nice. With Spy he has the 50% additional damage to forts what is a big plus. Assault Art is nice - and a lot of fun while playing - but the statistical increase of your average damage is sadly far below the increase LaSalle gets from mobility. Sadly Murat has only surprise and not strike - this is the K.O. criteria against Murat - half of the land has cavalry evasion: trees, hills, fences, cities, factories and stables! (and all sea 5%-10%?) Murat has advances against forts Murat can have more times critical damages with AssultArt. If AA triggers on a hex with evasion it will be still -5% to -45% for the lack of strike. neverll other situations LaSalle will deal higher up to drastical higher damage. Murat has two more training⭐ - nice for the beginner but the lack of 2 Dietz are the bigger pain. Trotzky: LaSalle >> Murat P.S. If Assault Art triggers on low health (less probable) it will give the lower maximum critical damage - so never forget the snair with reduced healt Dombrowski locks for me better than Murat. At least he has strike so he can be used as an cavalry general for all purposes. Again the first thing: Missing ⭐! 2⭐move and 1⭐cav - for an IAP! - this is horrible - spending money and your general is still not ready. (Sakurako offers much more for free) The skills: Banner, Defense Art <=> Mobility, bdamma Sadly there only +1 and +2 banner (attack, defense, supply) in the game - their effects are too low so this skill is barely used. If there would been +4 or +6 banner this can be a good skill for infantry. Defense Art is really good, not reliable but it helps (≈ 1 time per mission). And again: more training ⭐ than LaSalle. Overall Dombrowski has better survivability for the price of slightly less dammage due to LaSalle's mobility - and 1455🎖 just to make him comparable. (1452🎖 = 121 * 60HP medipacks) + Sailor For a strong cavalary general Sailor is one of the really useful additional skills. In the campaign not only for landing missions - many times there attacks from sea - one step in the water and the problems are finished. But Cav needs snair and pistols, I noticed many times that the carrier occupies the needed second slot. Which are the Useful additional skills? Assault Art, Defense Art, Leadership, Sailor, Spy other? For now I'm not convinced. For me LaSalle always looks superior. If a player wants to buy a cavalry general - why not the best?
And ready on top - without the need of any additional trainers!I was amazed for your rating. (I'm still) Lasalle is indeed a quality option because he needs absolute 0 regroups. However, I think you gave too much credit to mobility, one of the least useful skills in the game. Remember we are not comparing Franquemont and Fontanelli here, it's Dombrowski vs Lasalle. IMO a "standard" good cavalry general would be maxed out Junot, everything else is bonus. People usually consider Dombrowski and Radetzky better than Lasalle because they have more bonuses than Lasalle. Murat and Davout are less ordinary than those since they gave away consistency for the ability to create miracles. As for sailor, the most important aspect of army generals is the ability to fight on land; if they start in the sea, the first thing we do is to land rather than fighting in the water. Therefore, sailor simply does not trigger as often as others. Oh, one more thing about equipment. I personally prefer defensive items on cavalry in most cases because they are responsible for mopping up, which means more counterattacks. With 2 gilded cuirasses, you can save 8 precious HPs from each counterattacks to fight the Soults and Napoleons. If that pistol decides whether you can defeat the unit with this blow then I'll definitely stick to it. |
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Post by littlecorporal on Jun 7, 2020 1:18:09 GMT
That's why Lan is the best. Those 5 training stars can be as good as a +10 item.
Training stars are the difference between the best generals and maybe the most important factor:
1. No training trainers
2. All unit types benefit from training stars
3. Training acts as mini medpacks as well
4. Highly trained units are often untouched by single formation enemies ( i.e. work like defensive art but more consistent)
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jun 7, 2020 12:16:30 GMT
Alright time to resume : )
Apologies for the gap. I had to take sometime off as my semester was extremely stressful and I had some health issues for I have to account time for. I basically have worked really hard in school for about 4 semesters straight, but the time has definitely taken its toll on me as I drank like 4 cups of coffee on the daily basis. So obviously, even jogging for 5 minutes nonstop is a huge pain for me. Furthermore, my phone actually broke (I got a software update on acident now the touchscreen on my phone does not work in some areas, resulting in me not being able to playing easytech games for a while. Lastly, I actually have to save up for a new car as my parents tried to improve my awful driveway (made of pebbles), and they actually made it much worse than it used to, so my car is exponentially decaying in value as it gets damaged more and more everytime I leave the house, so I am still very busy with trying to earn enough money to buy one. But needless to say, I am definitely going to do my best to finish the list up. In my opinion, the fact that my phone broke is a bit of a positive for me as I was very addicted to easytech games since 2016, EW6 the one which I dumped the most time into by far. So taking a break from them is by no means a bad thing. Thank you for being very patient with my guide. I will try to complete it within the next week.
Sincerely, Friedrich Paulus
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jun 7, 2020 12:37:40 GMT
 Sacken
Price: 3 Emblems or 640 Medals Type of General: Infantry Starting Movement: 3 hexes on light infantry, 2 hexes on everything else. Eugene is better as he is him but with 4 extra trading stars with a medal difference of 80 medals. If this guy was the price of Zakrevsky, even then he would not be worth it as he is not a trainer and bugle < mass fire. But if he still was though, he would be a blue tier or minimum green tier infantry general. For 640 medals, Sacken is a bad deal as Dobeln is 200 medals more but has better stars and mass fire, Picton is slightly more but trades bugle for better stars and mass fire, and lastly, both Lusignan and Zakrevsky are much better price performers. Meh. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jun 7, 2020 12:59:25 GMT
 Eugene Price: 3 Emblems or 725 Medals Type of General: Infantry Starting Movement: 3 hexes on light infantry, 2 hexes on everything else. Actually not that bad! Eugene has a lot of versatility. He is quite good in combat due to bugle. When he gets wounded, send him to a buisiness center to trade. He has 4 trading stars making him stand out amongst the other infantry generals. A general with high nobility (10) will have the same trade abilities as Eugene however, so if you are that patient, and you can grind out the famous chain the beast nobility grind, you will have just as good of a trading general. Imo, Junot with maxed out nobility (or Sulkowski) is a much better idea seeing as how much better cavarly is at grabbing cities than infantry. But there isn't really anyone else like Eugene as Sacken is the cheapest infantry general with bugle and he is only 80 medals less. Imo, Eugene can be a very useful general to add to the collection if you use him wisely. But he isn't quite green tier as bugle is his only good skill and a general with maxed nobility is just as good at trading, regardless of their stars. Also, if you max out Sakurako's nobility, she can fill the role of both junot and eugene alluded to uptop. The problem is the chain the beast grind is a bit of a pain, as it takes more than 2 hours to perform. But a maxed Sakurako will obviously be much better to move due to her 4 movement and 4 training star combinations. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jun 7, 2020 13:10:14 GMT
 CornplanterPrice: 3 Emblems or 740 Medals
Type of General: Infantry
Starting Movement: 3 hexes on all infantry but machine gunners, 2 hexes on machine gunners.
Not really much to say about Cornplanter. He is hull with an extra movement star. He is Maria with 2 less training stars. He is 740 medals. Yeah, don't get him, he is not that great. Especially considering you get Maria for free and she is just as good if not better (she is still by far the worst princess). Mediocre |
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Post by 𝘛𝘳𝘰𝘵𝘴𝘬𝘺 on Jun 7, 2020 17:21:28 GMT
Oh, one more thing about equipment. I personally prefer defensive items on cavalry in most cases because they are responsible for mopping up, which means more counterattacks. With 2 gilded cuirasses, you can save 8 precious HPs from each counterattacks to fight the Soults and Napoleons. If that pistol decides whether you can defeat the unit with this blow then I'll definitely stick to it. The only defense item I use is the snair drum. For my cavalry the drums are indispensable after round 2-5. The AI action is always a part of my strategy For cavalry: with forced AI attacks the enemies come close and attack (no art!) With snair and pistol these fights have to be so hard for the enemies that on the beginning of my turn my cavallary can finish a few enemies before I start movements. (Is this the moop up?) Multiple(2++) fights per round - this is the (big) advantage for cavalry what makes them my favorite units - dammage until the last breath. Defending is not the first purpose. |
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Post by Darth Vader on Jun 7, 2020 17:39:11 GMT
Oh, one more thing about equipment. I personally prefer defensive items on cavalry in most cases because they are responsible for mopping up, which means more counterattacks. With 2 gilded cuirasses, you can save 8 precious HPs from each counterattacks to fight the Soults and Napoleons. If that pistol decides whether you can defeat the unit with this blow then I'll definitely stick to it. The only defense item I use is the snair drum. For my cavalry the drums are indispensable after round 2-5. The AI action is always a part of my strategy For cavalry: with forced AI attacks the enemies come close and attack (no art!) With snair and pistol these fights have to be so hard for the enemies that on the beginning of my turn my cavallary can finish a few enemies before I start movements. (Is this the moop up?) Multiple(2++) fights per round - this is the (big) advantage for cavalry what makes them my favorite units - dammage until the last breath. Defending is not the first purpose. Mine has to be the Artillery. The heavy cannons are great with their range and fire support. They are surprisingly less Targeted then Calvary which are attacked greatly. The cannons can make short work of forts, ships and amored units. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jun 7, 2020 18:35:44 GMT
A lot of users on this forum do especially like Lassalle as an iap. But would you buy him for 1500 medals if he was free? Probably not. Golitsyn will simply do and we just have no need whatsover of a second Golitsyn. Not to mention that Golitsyn is pretty weak without a snair drum due to his lack of training stars. Imo Lassalle deserves orange rank for me personally as he really does not offer that much to my play style.
I will say this though, he is convenient. But Dabrowski is a night and day difference between Lassalle, and Murat is slightly better too.
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