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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Jul 25, 2020 23:36:28 GMT
These findings are amazing, thank you Trotzki! Now I have finally got Lan and Victoria, just a few days after collecting all the campaign stars. I wonder what the best candidate for getting Lan might have been, if it were not for HRE98 and US75... Nice to get them! Congratulations!πΎ I am really happy that my postings were helpful! Thank you! Probably you could get them earlier. But, I went for Victoria with 409For now, US75 with @vonmannstein 's guide is far the best I know for Lan. On my first run I played GB1812 also a good Lan-oppotunity. For Victoria : littlecorporal showed, just a few days ago, as first, that FR1798 can be an alternative to HRE - we are exited and wait for more information!! Before: Only HRE |
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Post by littlecorporal on Aug 6, 2020 7:39:56 GMT
I just finished 1776 USA. 21 round victory with 9999/5000/9999 resources, 4 generals at 64/4, 86/5, 64/4, 54/4
I received 400 years and Sakuroko and will save it until I build up my generals for Lan.
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Aug 6, 2020 9:20:10 GMT
I just finished 1776 USA. 21 round victory with 9999/5000/9999 resources, 4 generals at 64/4, 86/5, 64/4, 54/4 I received 400 years and Sakuroko and will save it until I build up my generals for Lan. 5kπ§ in Round 21! - is a really good performance! Nice! 185 years you will get additional with a maxed headquarter + campaign bonus. For Years Europe, your Headquarter passed already the maximum.It was a shock for me, when I had the first time so low years after really high performance conquests. How many years you got for America? For curiosity: try to leave your conquest running, until your stock is full for America please. PS. The bonus for faster finishing is 2600πΎ (650π§) per round. (4600πΎ for r20 - that's the fastest bonus) If you collect more resources per round - I'm sure you do, you can raise your Asian years by finishing in round 25. PPS: This is a great performance ! |
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Post by littlecorporal on Aug 6, 2020 13:39:13 GMT
850 years ruled in America in Round 21.
You were right! Finishing in Round 25 with 6500 iron gave me 450 years ruled Asia.
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Aug 6, 2020 13:41:50 GMT
850 years ruled in America in Round 21. You were right! Finishing in Round 25 with 6500 iron gave me 450 years ruled Asia. I just count it - your r21 is valid 700years Asia >392β Congratulations ! |
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Aug 6, 2020 13:44:56 GMT
850 years ruled in America in Round 21. You were right! Finishing in Round 25 with 6500 iron gave me 450 years ruled Asia. Try America when you have >9800π§ please. P.S. Are you sure 'just' 6500π§ in r25 ? |
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Post by pathdoc on Sept 29, 2021 17:15:57 GMT
OK, so I just ran my figures in Europe.
My campaign stars = 57, x 170 = 9690
My save has 9999 gold, 9699 wrench, 9999 food = 10,000 for gold + 20,000 for food plus 9699 x 4 = 38796 for a total of 68796
My generals/princesses are 98/6, 110/5, 74/5 and 10/4 which should give me 87,900 when challenging Asia
My turns give me no bonuses as I am well into the 50-something. (Is it possible there are penalties applying?)
I calculated my total rice as 166386, and dividing by 560 gives 297 years, but my rule in Asia is described in-game as 150 years (which if I multiply it by 560 gives 84,000 rice). Even if I take a maximum HQ of 70,000 it still gives 265 years which should round down to 200.
Where am I figuring this out wrong?
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Sept 29, 2021 20:04:28 GMT
OK, so I just ran my figures in Europe. My campaign stars = 57, x 170 = 9690
My save has 9999 gold, 9699 wrench, 9999 food = 10,000 for gold + 20,000 for food plus 9699 x 4 = 38796 for a total of 68796
My generals/princesses are 98/6, 110/5, 74/5 and 10/4 which should give me 87,900 when challenging Asia
I calculated my total rice as 166386, and dividing by 560 gives 297 years, but my rule in Asia is described in-game as 150 years (which if I multiply it by 560 gives 84,000 rice). Even if I take a maximum HQ of 70,000 it still gives 265 years which should round down to 200.
My turns give me no bonuses as I am well into the 50-something. (Is it possible there are penalties applying?) Where am I figuring this out wrong? Every 10 rounds there is a break where the bonus declines significant: For America this is after R25,R35,R45 for europe after R30,R40,R50. And yes, iirc the bonus turns at one level into negative numbers. I just evaluated the numbers for a LAN-run and did no exact long-run evaluation (there is even a round-limit, after you can't challenge Asia anymore). I will have a look if I can find the numbers for long runs, to complete my posting. |
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Post by pathdoc on Nov 16, 2021 13:11:09 GMT
Further data point: I now have 219,386 rice and 250 years ruled in Asia. Same save (53 years), same campaign stars and resources, just more HQ rice (139900; princesses 125/10, 110/10, 110/10). I will keep pushing on the HQ rice and see at which point it becomes 300 years.
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Nov 16, 2021 15:06:23 GMT
Further data point: I now have 219,386 rice and 250 years ruled in Asia. Same save (53 years), same campaign stars and resources, just more HQ rice (139900; princesses 125/10, 110/10, 110/10). I will keep pushing on the HQ rice and see at which point it becomes 300 years. 219kπΎ = 319 years, so there is something wrong. In which round you finish ? I found that R19 wont get any hiher bonus, but I never tested out long runs in detail, For America β₯R36 or Europe β₯R41 for shure you loose rice, the list continues, with steps every 10 rounds and another decline round by round. Do you mean R53 ? Continent ? You find in John Marston's new library (pinned) a link to Piccards Almanach, there is a copy of Ride-The-Wind's evaluation for ruled years (the calculation looks different, but its 99.9% equal to my findings - he counts in π°) there you find the additional data for longer runs, iirc. |
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Post by pathdoc on Nov 16, 2021 16:20:57 GMT
ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ, yes, Round 53 in Europe. Sorry for the confusion. I had a more detailed post, but there was an error and it was destroyed.
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Nov 16, 2021 17:01:59 GMT
ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ, yes, Round 53 in Europe. Sorry for the confusion. I had a more detailed post, but there was an error and it was destroyed. No problem I understood it, but late. If you see europe -1950πΎ every round; in R40 the bonus must be around 0 and R41 is a step, this time not 60k but it will be quite a lot. It is even mathematical possible to achieve negative ruling years, but the game will friendly show 10 years asia, for 0 or less years. Edit:
I found the number: Europe:R53 = -74 450πΎ So completing the calculation: 219,386 πΎ - 74,450 πΎ= 144,936 / 560 β 258 years 10 months How I tested: If you reduce your ressources by 1234π§ (just sell π§ with 9999π°) you should find the point Β±5π§ where years switch from 200 to 250 years - iicc. |
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Post by pathdoc on Nov 26, 2021 12:43:51 GMT
ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ, excellent. You will be pleased to know that I tried the 27-turn speedrun again. Once more, things diverged from the original and I had to wing it, but I still managed to do it in 42 turns. That gave me 750 years in Europe and 350 in Asia, and I picked up both Isabella and Sakurako from that save. The problem seems to be the cavalry that goes to just under the large fort with the general in it, and the infantry that's eventually going to go down, grab Lyon and start the French Famine. They get killed early when I try it. When I've caught my breath, I'm going to do it again - but this time I'm going to use as many medpacks as necessary to ensure that those critical units stay alive. It's worth burning those up if I can make the fastest possible run.
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Nov 26, 2021 13:25:24 GMT
pathdoc : excellent !!! Great ! And, oh yes I am really pleased to read this. I always used a few medikits for high scoring. The problem is only, not to waste medikits on a unsuccessfull run (or forget to save immediately after consuming one). You played already the conquest, so you could see where the crucical troops are, this is the necessary knowledge. Spending ten or even twenty medipacks for lets say 200ποΈ, and to get two of the three (imo) best commanders the game offers as reward, is in my point of view a real good investment. Apart that you win a few ποΈ more, if you hit high, with healty units. Great job, I am happy for you.
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Post by pathdoc on Nov 28, 2021 13:18:25 GMT
Question: should a US conquest offer the choice to go to Asia, or does it just hand out Lan when you get enough rice? I just got Kate from a 57-round conquest and 500 years (I already had Sakurako from choosing Asia in Europe when I did this run).
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