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Post by littlecorporal on May 29, 2020 3:57:44 GMT
I see this term thrown around a lot and I am curious about when the experts (picard, trotsky, arya, mannstein etc. al.) consider it to begin. I am almost finished with HRE after completing Coalition and Imp. Eagle.
It seems like the last 3 or 4 scenarios of each campaign are much more difficult. Does that pattern hold for later campaigns or all they all difficult?
I've had to take a break from the campaigns to grind my girls rank and nobility.
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on May 29, 2020 7:27:24 GMT
In this forum, "endgame gens" means useful gens that can last throughout the game, especially the toughest parts like the last few Campaign series (Rise of America and SNS for EW4) and Challenges, if applicable (WC3 onwards).
Usually they are good gens straight out of the pack (Lan, Sophia, Davout, Döbeln, Berthier, etc.) who may or may not need some extra investment to maximise their output and survivability.
IMO, you know you are in the endgame when you have cleared about 60% of the all Campaigns and the overall difficulty is very high compared to earlier ones like Rise of America VS Coalition.
By this time, you should be well on your way to finishing the assembly of your endgame lineup or be in the process of strengthening said lineup. For example, having Isabella and Sophia while waiting for Lan and Victoria or any combination of endgame gens.
As for the last few campaigns in a series being the most difficult, I think it's quite natural to see an increase in difficulty within the series itself, apart from a few spikes here and there (Austerlitz, Never Surrender, Unification of Germany, etc.). Do expect a similar trend with Eastern Overlord, Rise of America and SNS as well as "speed bumps" / sudden difficulty spikes within the campaign series.
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Post by littlecorporal on May 29, 2020 9:11:22 GMT
I live in China and for the first month I played the free to play/ 4 slot version in English because I could not connect to Google Play. After staring at Kate on the sideline for 2 weeks, I downloaded the Chinese version and am now at 11 slots.
You could almost say the 4 slot and multi slot (7+ so you can max out and still use trainers) are two different games.
I'm all about the princesses now. Can the game be won by just using them and trainers? After regrouping Zavresky into Maria to boost her infantry stars, I'm starting to think it may have been a mistake. LOL
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Post by 𝘛𝘳𝘰𝘵𝘴𝘬𝘺 on May 30, 2020 9:13:19 GMT
I live in China and for the first month I played the free to play/ 4 slot version in English because I could not connect to Google Play. After staring at Kate on the sideline for 2 weeks, I downloaded the Chinese version and am now at 11 slots. You could almost say the 4 slot and multi slot (7+ so you can max out and still use trainers) are two different games. I'm all about the princesses now. Can the game be won by just using them and trainers? After regrouping Zavresky into Maria to boost her infantry stars, I'm starting to think it may have been a mistake. LOL Yes, the game is programmed to be finished only with the princess. Trainers can be used to strengthen them. I never got a general that wasn't a trainer. My personal experience - but this is not common sence: Generals without beeing trainer are in the academy so you can study their skills to be prepared when you face them in battle. If you are stucked in the game you can buy them as a help/cheat to go on, but all investments in male generals will lower your game progressing speed as you have to compensate the extra cost (if not IAP).
It's the princess game - generals are the enemy. Yes more slots are a big big big extension to the gaming experience! " You could almost say the 4 slot and multi slot (7+ so you can max out and still use trainers) are two different games. Well expressed! |
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Post by littlecorporal on May 31, 2020 23:08:14 GMT
When generals are regrouped, how much of their nobility and rank are transferred? It seems like less than 100%
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Post by Darth Vader on Jun 1, 2020 0:09:24 GMT
When generals are regrouped, how much of their nobility and rank are transferred? It seems like less than 100% I believe it is about 60-80% of their rank is transferred when you regroup a general. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jun 4, 2020 14:23:59 GMT
The general consensus seems to be that Sophia, Lan, and Isabella are the best end game generals you can ask for when maxed. The best last slot filler is probably Golitsyn as you already have 2 artillery generals, and he starts off the best without any regrouping. Sulkowski is also great but he moves a hex slower on heavy cavarly, and you won’t always have a convenient double grenadier guard cavarly around. He is still great on armored cars and such. Golitsyn is just a bit more consistent due to his strike + surprise skill set. Victoria is also very good as the last slot as she has 4 stars in movement and a great skill set. But imo cavarly >>>>> infantry so even she is not ideal (plus you can use Sophia or Lan on infantry and have them be just as good with a snair drum). Imo the end game generals are Sophia, Lan, Isabella, and Golitsyn (after the prior 3 are maxed with trainers). You could replace Sophia with Sakurako and she’ll be a bit more consistent (strike + 4 training stars) but at the cost of explosives and spy. Of course, if you have more than 4 slots, the amount of end game general greatly expands. Afterwards, all of the princesses but Maria are good, and generals like ushakov, Kosciusko, Berthier, Sulkowski, and Scharnhorst are good ingredients to make a solid team. Imo neither Oudinot nor Dobeln are good enough to ever be considered. Dobeln lacks any training stars while Oudinot lacks mass fire, and they are both super expensive. In terms of economic power, having 5 trading stars >>>> architecture as I have been convinced by trotsky. But if you want to play as a weak two star nations for fun, you will need a strong economic general. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jun 4, 2020 14:29:13 GMT
Also who you use in the intermediate stage really doesn’t matter as anyone who is not Sophia, Lan, or Isabella will get regrouped into them, as those 3 are leagues above their opponents. As such, you would be doing yourself a favor using generals with trainer skills early on in the game as if they are to be expendable anyway, they might as well save you a minimum of 375 medals in the process. The best trainer generals with the most long term potential are: Arnold (5 trading stars), Sulkowski (a great cavarly gen), Raevsky (Good cavarly gen movement trainer), Zakevsky (infantry general with mass fire), and Scharnhorst (fantastic artillery general).
That’s why you should not get Golitsyn early game even though he is very good, as you will otherwise regroup him into one of those 3 princesses, and will have to buy him twice, so you lose 1000 medals in the process.
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Post by littlecorporal on Jun 5, 2020 0:20:10 GMT
A lot of it depends on how many slots you have. I pretty much stick with tier1 trainers and immediately regroup them into a princess.
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Post by littlecorporal on Jun 6, 2020 1:00:46 GMT
4 slots is very difficult because at some point you will need to choose between Sophia, Isabella, Sakuroko, Lan, and Victoria.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jun 7, 2020 18:54:45 GMT
A lot of it depends on how many slots you have. I pretty much stick with tier1 trainers and immediately regroup them into a princess. Good choices. If you can get Isabella with Dumouriez, Kutaisov, and Sophia, you would be very well off. I myself also got 600 years without generals, and someone else, I think @xtruples (Hannibal Barca) did it with no generals. But most people will not be able to crack 400 easily with those 3 (you need a lot of experience + luck). Imo, Sulkowski, Scharnhorst, and even Raevsky, 4 hex movement on everything and being a movement trainer certainly doesn’t hurt his case, (pick 2 out of the 3) are a fantastic combination of price and quality. Afterwards, you can easily obtain Sophia and have the 2 arty 1 cab combination needed to get Isabella. So imo I would recommend those 3 even above Kutaisov and Dumouriez, as they are very very good. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jun 7, 2020 18:56:27 GMT
4 slots is very difficult because at some point you will need to choose between Sophia, Isabella, Sakuroko, Lan, and Victoria. Yep. You also lose Kate which is a pain you will feel during the British campaign. Imo Sophia, Isabella, and Lan are must haves. Sophia’s ship ability will actually be invaluable eventually. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jun 7, 2020 19:07:08 GMT
Think about it this way
Scharnhorst Price: 795 - 430 = 365 medals. For 365 medals, you get 2 extra movement stars, 3 extra training stars, and an extra artillery star. Which imo is easily a steal.
Sulkowski Price: 850 - 375 = 475 medals. For 475 medals you get 2 extra cav stars, an extra movement star (or two even), strike, spy, and a couple extra training stars. Its 100 medals more than Scharnhorst but like twice the content. In comparison to dumouriez who is 560, you get strike instead of surprise, 2 extra training stars, and spy. Once again, a great package for 300 medals.
Raevsky: 895 - 540 = 350 medals. For 350 medals, you get surprise, defense art, a couple extra training stars, as well as an extra movement star.
Imo these 3 are like a good deal on a Mercedes Benz. Sure a Mercedes Benz is expensive when compared to a volksvaggen, but you are offered a great deal for one and its better in a lot of ways so its hard to resist. These 3 generals are like unnecessary luxuries that will make your life a lot easier, especially Scharhorst in particular.
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Post by Hannibal Barca on Jun 7, 2020 19:26:17 GMT
As long as you can finish HRE in less than 40 rounds with 9999-3/4×××-9999 you can get Isabela . In my last playthrough I used Kutaisov, but you can do it without a general ( did it some time ago, but requires luck ).
Just unlock Sophia, Fatimah, Maria + get another gen and max out their nobility ( it'll be easy with an autoclicker ). Try to improve Fatimah rank's (she has warmaster) . The rank/nob should be above 40 ( with less than 50 campaign stars).
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jun 7, 2020 19:43:53 GMT
As long as you can finish HRE in less than 40 rounds with 9999-3/4×××-9999 you can get Isabela . In my last playthrough I used Kutaisov, but you can do it without a general ( did it some time ago, but requires luck ). Just unlock Sophia, Fatimah, Maria + get another gen and max out their nobility ( it'll be easy with an autoclicker ). Try to improve Fatimah rank's (she has warmaster) . The rank/nob should be above 40 ( with less than 50 campaign stars). Indeed. Maria with a snair drum is actually not all that bad and if you are lucky, you will get the second snair drum in the daily shop early on like I did. |
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