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Post by suleiman on Jul 29, 2020 8:40:51 GMT
Is anyone noticed that new weapons use rage for their special abilities? (Ragnarok, scarlet flash)
So using on a team-support man ( caesar-healing, nelson archer commendar etc.) blocking their main ability. U must choose one of them to use with rage.
Using this weapons on nobunaga, genghis, saladin much more effective imo.
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Post by SolidLight on Jul 29, 2020 10:08:21 GMT
Is anyone noticed that new weapons use rage for their special abilities? (Ragnarok, scarlet flash) So using on a team-support man ( caesar-healing, nelson archer commendar etc.) blocking their main ability. U must choose one of them to use with rage. Using this weapons on nobunaga, genghis, saladin much more effective imo. You can use both the primary ability and the artifact ability. It’s just that the completely inept AI always decides to use the artifact ability. |
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Post by suleiman on Jul 29, 2020 10:20:36 GMT
Is anyone noticed that new weapons use rage for their special abilities? (Ragnarok, scarlet flash) So using on a team-support man ( caesar-healing, nelson archer commendar etc.) blocking their main ability. U must choose one of them to use with rage. Using this weapons on nobunaga, genghis, saladin much more effective imo. You can use both the primary ability and the artifact ability. It’s just that the completely inept AI always decides to use the artifact ability. The problem is, u can only use one of this abilities. We all build our teams with team skills, it is necessary for end game. So using on ceaser cause u to choose healing ability, makes artifact ability useless. Because of that, i said using this weapons on nobunaga, genghis, saladin much more effective imo |
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Post by SolidLight on Jul 29, 2020 10:24:28 GMT
You can use both the primary ability and the artifact ability. It’s just that the completely inept AI always decides to use the artifact ability. The problem is, u can only use one of this abilities. We all build our teams with team skills, it is necessary for end game. So using on ceaser cause u to choose healing ability, makes artifact ability useless. Because of that, i said using this weapons on nobunaga, genghis, saladin much more effective imo Well, you can use them on an uber cavalry unit like Attila since his rage regen is out of control, but yeah it's usually not worth using the artifact abilities when you have a fantastic primary ability. |
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Post by stoic on Jul 29, 2020 11:31:52 GMT
Is anyone noticed that new weapons use rage for their special abilities? (Ragnarok, scarlet flash) So using on a team-support man ( caesar-healing, nelson archer commendar etc.) blocking their main ability. U must choose one of them to use with rage. Using this weapons on nobunaga, genghis, saladin much more effective imo. Since I just started it yesterday it is a very useful information to me! I still know close to nothing about this mythological stuff... |
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Post by stoic on Jul 29, 2020 11:43:32 GMT
But Kevin is right: Attila is able to use it in particular situations without compromising his Commander ability. I have a question though: do we use those artifacts together with main weapon or instead of it?
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Post by SolidLight on Jul 29, 2020 11:51:55 GMT
But Kevin is right: Attila is able to use it in particular situations without compromising his Commander ability. I have a question though: do we use those artifacts together with main weapon or instead of it? The artifacts themselves are items that your generals equip. Gungnir for instance is a weapon. This also means that you can't use them with the set items if you want the full set bonus. |
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Post by Iron Duke on Jul 29, 2020 12:18:54 GMT
But Kevin is right: Attila is able to use it in particular situations without compromising his Commander ability. I have a question though: do we use those artifacts together with main weapon or instead of it? As Kev says there are no extra slots so the artefacts have to use one of those, making them incompatible with full legendary sets. Not all are weapons however: I have the energy ring which goes in the fourth slot so perhaps there will be boots and armour to come too in later updates. |
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Post by SolidLight on Jul 29, 2020 13:21:32 GMT
But Kevin is right: Attila is able to use it in particular situations without compromising his Commander ability. I have a question though: do we use those artifacts together with main weapon or instead of it? As Kev says there are no extra slots so the artefacts have to use one of those, making them incompatible with full legendary sets. Not all are weapons however: I have the energy ring which goes in the fourth slot so perhaps there will be boots and armour to come too in later updates. I'm pretty sure Aegis will be armor. No boots though. |
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Post by yuanzhong on Jul 29, 2020 14:29:04 GMT
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Post by Iron Duke on Jul 29, 2020 19:52:35 GMT
But Kevin is right: Attila is able to use it in particular situations without compromising his Commander ability. I have a question though: do we use those artifacts together with main weapon or instead of it? As Kev says there are no extra slots so the artefacts have to use one of those, making them incompatible with full legendary sets. Not all are weapons however: I have the energy ring which goes in the fourth slot so perhaps there will be boots and armour to come too in later updates. The energy ring just appeared in Cologne. I'm at Son of Scotland 4/Red Beard 1 so you can buy it fairly early, if you have a spare 6000 medals  Edit: Nordic Trial 1 available too. |
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Post by stoic on Jul 29, 2020 20:07:54 GMT
One notice, you can't equip more than 1 artifact on each general.  But i think it's acceptable when you sacrifice 4th bonus effect of set item for OP bonus of Artifact. Example, you give Khan Keel set for 4th regen bonus (50 hp/turn) but Bottle of life give you 220 regen hp / turn and ability to heal around unit (1 hex, sadly) 35% of max HP every 2 - 3 turn while you also need high defence stats to keep Khan do his work well. So 3 keel items and bottle of life is best for Khan in my case. More example is Washington with Odin set and Gungnir. Sacrifice 100 atk bonus for higher crit chance and OP skill (400% damage, imagine when Washington use Scarlet Flash under Commander buff...) I think it's acceptable. 
   Well, it is definitely an improvement, but Washington's active skill is (when upgraded) 175% to 3 enemies. Plus we loose some stats due to incomplete set. Probably it's better to give it to someone else instead. Nobunaga, for example... |
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Post by Hannibal Barca on Jul 29, 2020 20:16:28 GMT
One notice, you can't equip more than 1 artifact on each general. But i think it's acceptable when you sacrifice 4th bonus effect of set item for OP bonus of Artifact. Example, you give Khan Keel set for 4th regen bonus (50 hp/turn) but Bottle of life give you 220 regen hp / turn and ability to heal around unit (1 hex, sadly) 35% of max HP every 2 - 3 turn while you also need high defence stats to keep Khan do his work well. So 3 keel items and bottle of life is best for Khan in my case. More example is Washington with Odin set and Gungnir. Sacrifice 100 atk bonus for higher crit chance and OP skill (400% damage, imagine when Washington use Scarlet Flash under Commander buff...) I think it's acceptable.
Well, it is definitely an improvement, but Washington's active skill is (when upgraded) 175% to 3 enemies. Plus we loose some stats due to incomplete set. Probably it's better to give it to someone else instead. Nobunaga, for example... Yes, Nobunaga with this item deals insane damage on his own . Now I'm saving medals for Nelson, but with the 40% buff from Jhansi he can deal up to >2000 to the most powerfull enemy(high hp and defense) ( the item is upgraded only to lv 4 ). It could also be an option for an Artillery gen ... |
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Post by stoic on Jul 29, 2020 20:20:00 GMT
Well, it is definitely an improvement, but Washington's active skill is (when upgraded) 175% to 3 enemies. Plus we loose some stats due to incomplete set. Probably it's better to give it to someone else instead. Nobunaga, for example... Yes, Nobunaga with this item deals insane damage on his own . Now I'm saving medals for Nelson, but with the 40% buff from Jhansi he can deal up to >2000 to the most powerfull enemy(high hp and defense) ( the item is upgraded only to lv 4 ). It could also be an option for an Artillery gen ... Does his double-attack work with this artifact? I mean secondary targets... |
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Post by Hannibal Barca on Jul 29, 2020 20:26:27 GMT
Yes, Nobunaga with this item deals insane damage on his own . Now I'm saving medals for Nelson, but with the 40% buff from Jhansi he can deal up to >2000 to the most powerfull enemy(high hp and defense) ( the item is upgraded only to lv 4 ). It could also be an option for an Artillery gen ... Does his double-attack work with this artifact? I mean secondary targets... I don't think so ... ( he is upgraded to 5 stars, but didn't notice anything before ) . |
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