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Post by mrmansterin on Aug 27, 2020 15:49:53 GMT
Hello all. I have been telling my friend who also plays WC4 about Graziani. I was saying that Graziani can be good but he is in 1980 and he said that no survivability skills can shield him from the rumor of the terrorist generals. I am stuck of how to continue to explain to him about Graziani.
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Post by George Washington on Aug 27, 2020 15:57:10 GMT
Really, the simplest solution is to put Rumor on Graziani.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2020 18:59:21 GMT
I have been in a similar situation. My friend does not accept the superiority of Guderian + Rumor in relation to Mainstein
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Post by mrmansterin on Aug 27, 2020 19:11:22 GMT
What was his argument that Manstein is superior to Guderian+rumor?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2020 19:27:01 GMT
What was his argument that Manstein is superior to Guderian+rumor? I explained that Rumor would demoralize Mainstein, but he just didn't understand |
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Post by mrmansterin on Aug 27, 2020 20:36:24 GMT
But what did he say that Manstein is superior? You said yours. I saw your's in the Shoutbox
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2020 20:56:46 GMT
But what did he say that Manstein is superior? You said yours. I saw your's in the Shoutbox Ah yes. He argued that Mainstein does more damage and has more life |
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Post by Sun Li-jen of the Glorious RoC on Aug 28, 2020 7:49:39 GMT
Machinist is good because it allows you to constantly heal each turn. Both machinist and blitzkrieg have their own roles. Blitzkrieg is better for your survivabillity when attacking enemies, while machinist is better to maintain your health each turn. Blitzkrieg would be useless when you don't attack any enemies, while machinist always supplies your troop's health. If you doesn't use Graziani to directly attack stronger enemies (like units with generals) his machinist would be very useful, but when you pit him one on one with Osborn, of course it wouldn't be that useful.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 28, 2020 15:14:36 GMT
Macarthur is also underrated as an infantry general. If you give him plain and raider, plus the urban, infantry leader, and raider, he’ll easily be the best infantry general in the game as he’ll have the best terrain bonus, better output than yamashita, and will be able to be good on tanks and artillery when needed to be.
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Aug 28, 2020 17:04:02 GMT
Macarthur is also underrated as an infantry general. If you give him plain and raider, plus the urban, infantry leader, and raider, he’ll easily be the best infantry general in the game as he’ll have the best terrain bonus, better output than yamashita, and will be able to be good on tanks and artillery when needed to be. I did find his damage outputs when using him on conquest as USA to be pretty good (he can usually solo Thailand), I just wish all infantry generals had some more health. |
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Post by mrmansterin on Aug 28, 2020 17:16:01 GMT
What infantry gen shall I get?
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Post by mrmansterin on Aug 28, 2020 17:16:31 GMT
Also, should I get Graziani as my 4th tank gen?
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Post by mrmansterin on Aug 28, 2020 17:24:46 GMT
But what did he say that Manstein is superior? You said yours. I saw your's in the Shoutbox Ah yes. He argued that Mainstein does more damage and has more life Guderian will take a lot of damage without blitz and Manstein will get wrecked. @dotcom, What was your response to that |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Aug 28, 2020 17:29:44 GMT
Also, should I get Graziani as my 4th tank gen? You don't need 4 tank generals lol. Get two navy generals if you want to do conquests faster |
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Post by mrmansterin on Aug 28, 2020 17:50:47 GMT
BTW, I am trying to spread that Graziani is really underrated and so is MacArthur
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