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Post by Don Quixote de la Mancha on Mar 19, 2021 12:10:27 GMT
True but slap a special anti-tank on that Menner and he can deal considerable dmg to tanks and slap a wiking and all arties in the area are gone (within reason) and put a White Death on him, there will be no survivors  Same is true for many infantry generals but dat 80% damage buff against infantry is so strong! And it can be scaled if that infantry has a special unit ! up to around 110% dmg buff |
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Post by HangryBird on Mar 19, 2021 15:29:25 GMT
Same is true for many infantry generals but dat 80% damage buff against infantry is so strong! And it can be scaled if that infantry has a special unit ! up to around 110% dmg buff 110% is done to the enemy's special force. 80% is done to the enemy itself. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Mar 21, 2021 17:19:09 GMT
Rundstedt is much stronger for only 2 movement stars sacrificed. If you want a fast axis infantry general, only yamashita will suffice
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Post by Don Quixote de la Mancha on Mar 21, 2021 18:37:03 GMT
Rundstedt is much stronger for only 2 movement stars sacrificed. If you want a fast axis infantry general, only yamashita will suffice But if you want raw dmg, Mannerheim is the obvious answer |
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Post by andrei on Mar 21, 2021 20:47:53 GMT
Rundstedt is much stronger for only 2 movement stars sacrificed. If you want a fast axis infantry general, only yamashita will suffice But if you want raw dmg, Mannerheim is the obvious answer In terms of raw damage Yamashito is stronger than Mannerheim. |
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Post by Don Quixote de la Mancha on Mar 21, 2021 21:26:11 GMT
But if you want raw dmg, Mannerheim is the obvious answer In terms of raw damage Yamashito is stronger than Mannerheim. Not if you want dmg to infantry and special units(can scale up to 80% and 110% respectively |
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Post by andrei on Mar 21, 2021 23:07:44 GMT
In terms of raw damage Yamashito is stronger than Mannerheim. Not if you want dmg to infantry and special units(can scale up to 80% and 110% respectively Could You prove it with math? Infantry has low base attack, so attack buff from Sniper is worse (as it is affected by the damage formula) than pure damage from Yamashito's bayonet. Accuracy strike is even crappiesr as it is only against special units which is normally annihilated earlier than the unit itself. |
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Post by HangryBird on Mar 21, 2021 23:19:48 GMT
Not if you want dmg to infantry and special units(can scale up to 80% and 110% respectively Could You prove it with math? Those are the bonuses when you include the 50% damage boost from White Death, which is not mentioned, but implied. Any infantry gen can equip it though. |
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Post by andrei on Mar 21, 2021 23:24:14 GMT
Could You prove it with math? Those are the bonuses when you include the 50% damage boost from White Death, which is not mentioned, but implied. Any infantry gen can equip it though. That's exactly the point. When gens are compared why should we speak about 80% when it is only 24%? |
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Post by HangryBird on Mar 21, 2021 23:33:48 GMT
Those are the bonuses when you include the 50% damage boost from White Death, which is not mentioned, but implied. Any infantry gen can equip it though. That's exactly the point. When gens are compared why should we speak about 80% when it is only 24%? Forgot that sniper is a 24% boost against infantry. So it's actually 74% and 104%. |
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Post by stoic on Mar 22, 2021 6:35:46 GMT
Probably against Infantry Mannerheim is better than Yamashita, not sure though. But there are many troops on the battlefield other than Infantry. Plus, 50 percent of the time Yamashita attacks without retaliation and he can fight in surrounded and encircled areas without moral drop. That is more than Mannerheim could bring to the table. I don't have any definite opinion on the importance of Infantry before Antarctic campaigns are out. But Yamashita and Kesselring are more appealing to me right now than other options.
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Post by Don Quixote de la Mancha on Mar 22, 2021 11:25:20 GMT
That's exactly the point. When gens are compared why should we speak about 80% when it is only 24%? Forgot that sniper is a 24% boost against infantry. So it's actually 74% and 104%. The White Death is 55% so it would be 79% and 109% but I rounded them up a point |
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Post by stoic on Mar 22, 2021 11:50:20 GMT
I wouldn't overestimate the power of special forces for our Infantry units. In some tough battles they are destroyed very fast and I was forced to re-equip them 6-7 times per battle. So we have to use such good SF as Viking, for example, strategically.
Armored special forces and those of Artillery are more durable without any doubt. It is because Infantry is a close-range unit and often involved in heavy fighting.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Mar 22, 2021 12:28:50 GMT
Student and Kesselring are not much worse infantry generals than Mannerheim imo, and have way more versatility.
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Post by HangryBird on Mar 22, 2021 14:22:00 GMT
Forgot that sniper is a 24% boost against infantry. So it's actually 74% and 104%. The White Death is 55% so it would be 79% and 109% but I rounded them up a point Why is my math failing me today? |
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