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Post by Hans Hartwig Von Beseler on Jan 8, 2021 17:34:56 GMT
1941 easily, thats remind me the times that i sent guderian in medium tank alone to conquer the ussr in wc 3
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Post by yuanzhong on Jan 9, 2021 3:15:30 GMT
Laziness. Nothing new unlocked in newest update (don't tell me about new trash gens). Yeah, the new gens they added in the update are very meh at best, but hey at least the campaign and army group are fun. Just perfect clear 1944 Allied side. IMO, it's easier than 1942 (I don't need to replay any stage to get perfect), just about brute force. Is Axis side more challenging? |
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Post by HangryBird on Jan 9, 2021 3:49:36 GMT
It's harder than pasific 1942 and has some really big and hype battles!! Also why haven't you gotten into it yet? Laziness. Nothing new unlocked in newest update (don't tell me about new trash gens). Patton made me try to reach 1944 and last heavy tank special force made me finish it, nothing more. Army mode is boring because unlock nothing like conquest before. GoG3 is the least attractive game among ET games in my eyes (GoG is too old to be count). I guess I have a lot of unpopular opinions. I think Army Group mode is a huge improvement over conquests. There is a lot more strategy involved. Plus, the maps are way better. WC4 is the least attractive game to me because generals are one-man armies and fighters + paratroopers made conquests too easy. Also, I voted for Western Front 1939 because I loved defense missions like Battle of Crete. Missions like Balkans Operation were frustrating and challenging in a good way. |
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Post by yuanzhong on Jan 9, 2021 4:42:31 GMT
Laziness. Nothing new unlocked in newest update (don't tell me about new trash gens). Patton made me try to reach 1944 and last heavy tank special force made me finish it, nothing more. Army mode is boring because unlock nothing like conquest before. GoG3 is the least attractive game among ET games in my eyes (GoG is too old to be count). I guess I have a lot of unpopular opinions. I think Army Group mode is a huge improvement over conquests. There is a lot more strategy involved. Plus, the maps are way better. WC4 is the least attractive game to me because generals are one-man armies and fighters + paratroopers made conquests too easy. Also, I voted for Western Front 1939 because I loved defense missions like Battle of Crete. Missions like Balkans Operation were frustrating and challenging in a good way. In Army mode also has paratrooper and it even easier when Cities don't have HP  Just look at the turn need to finish to Army mode / Conquest in speed run, Conquest in GoG3 is the easiest among all (except some case as Belgium and Dutch 1939). Almost gurus of ET games don't play GoG3 (Stoic, Andrei, Singlemalt, Max Otto von Stierlitz .... I don't know why, may be they are busy  ), If they did, you would see more insane numbers of turns in Army mode speedrun for sure. |
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Post by eeeeef on Jan 9, 2021 4:45:09 GMT
Yeah, the new gens they added in the update are very meh at best, but hey at least the campaign and army group are fun. Just perfect clear 1944 Allied side. IMO, it's easier than 1942 (I don't need to replay any stage to get perfect), just about brute force. Is Axis side more challenging? The axis missions in Africa and Russia aren't too hard, but the missions in Britain are the definition of painful imo *cough* battle of Britain *cough* |
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Post by HangryBird on Jan 9, 2021 6:36:17 GMT
In Army mode also has paratrooper and it even easier when Cities don't have HP Just look at the turn need to finish to Army mode / Conquest in speed run, Conquest in GoG3 is the easiest among all (except some case as Belgium and Dutch 1939). Almost gurus of ET games don't play GoG3 (Stoic, Andrei, Singlemalt, Max Otto von Stierlitz .... I don't know why, may be they are busy ), If they did, you would see more insane numbers of turns in Army mode speedrun for sure. That may be true, but notice how I said fighter + paratrooper combination. In WC4, you can kill a unit with fighters and drop a paratrooper on the city. Then, build an airport in the city and rinse and repeat. It's a strategy that lets you take entire countries and continents without much strategy and effort. In GoG3, this isn't viable for multiple reasons: - You can't build airports
- You can have more than 1 unit occupying a city
- Airports have more limited range.
- Paratroopers are more expensive.
- You can't create multiple paratroopers in the same turn.
- Units can't move/parachute on the same turn they are created.
- Capturing all the cities and ports of a country does not capitulate them.
On the other hand, I find army groups more challenging than conquests because my point still stands: generals in WC4 are one-man armies.
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Post by yuanzhong on Jan 9, 2021 8:08:16 GMT
In Army mode also has paratrooper and it even easier when Cities don't have HP Just look at the turn need to finish to Army mode / Conquest in speed run, Conquest in GoG3 is the easiest among all (except some case as Belgium and Dutch 1939). Almost gurus of ET games don't play GoG3 (Stoic, Andrei, Singlemalt, Max Otto von Stierlitz .... I don't know why, may be they are busy ), If they did, you would see more insane numbers of turns in Army mode speedrun for sure. That may be true, but notice how I said fighter + paratrooper combination. In WC4, you can kill a unit with fighters and drop a paratrooper on the city. Then, build an airport in the city and rinse and repeat. It's a strategy that lets you take entire countries and continents without much strategy and effort. In GoG3, this isn't a viable strategy for multiple reasons: - You can't build airports
- You can have more than 1 unit occupying a city
- Airports have more limited range.
- Paratroopers are more expensive.
- You can't create multiple paratroopers in the same turn.
- Units can't move/parachute on the same turn they are created.
- Capturing all the cities and ports of a country does not capitulate them.
On the other hand, I find army groups more challenging than conquests because my point still stands: generals in WC4 are one-man armies.
When you do speed run in GoG3, almost your team are one man army. Recover is always the hardest thing in conquest of previous WC and GoG game but no more in GoG3. |
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Post by yuanzhong on Jan 9, 2021 15:52:06 GMT
Just perfect clear 1944 Allied side. IMO, it's easier than 1942 (I don't need to replay any stage to get perfect), just about brute force. Is Axis side more challenging? The axis missions in Africa and Russia aren't too hard, but the missions in Britain are the definition of painful imo *cough* battle of Britain *cough* I'm done with 1944 (and get 1st rank in Android w/o hack again ). Still thinking that 1942 is harder than 1944. |
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Post by HangryBird on Jan 9, 2021 19:20:45 GMT
That may be true, but notice how I said fighter + paratrooper combination. In WC4, you can kill a unit with fighters and drop a paratrooper on the city. Then, build an airport in the city and rinse and repeat. It's a strategy that lets you take entire countries and continents without much strategy and effort. In GoG3, this isn't a viable strategy for multiple reasons: - You can't build airports
- You can have more than 1 unit occupying a city
- Airports have more limited range.
- Paratroopers are more expensive.
- You can't create multiple paratroopers in the same turn.
- Units can't move/parachute on the same turn they are created.
- Capturing all the cities and ports of a country does not capitulate them.
On the other hand, I find army groups more challenging than conquests because my point still stands: generals in WC4 are one-man armies.
When you do speed run in GoG3, almost your team are one man army. Recover is always the hardest thing in conquest of previous WC and GoG game but no more in GoG3. What do you mean by team? A team is a group of people, therefore by definition, a team can't be a one-man army. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Jan 11, 2021 16:33:17 GMT
Don Quixote de la Mancha, zink, eeeeef, yuanzhong, Nobunaga Oda, Uranus, kanue,how do you capitulate an enemy then, because my troops destroyed all of Britain's troops, took all of it's ports and territories, and still didn't defeat it.
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Post by eeeeef on Jan 11, 2021 16:39:28 GMT
Don Quixote de la Mancha, zink, eeeeef, yuanzhong, Nobunaga Oda, Uranus, kanue,how do you capitulate an enemy then, because my troops destroyed all of Britain's troops, took all of it's ports and territories, and still didn't defeat it. Unlike ET's games before, you need to eliminate all of britain's troops on the map (army units and navy units) to defeat it and gain it's special forces. |
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Post by yuanzhong on Jan 11, 2021 16:53:55 GMT
Don Quixote de la Mancha, zink, eeeeef, yuanzhong, Nobunaga Oda, Uranus, kanue,how do you capitulate an enemy then, because my troops destroyed all of Britain's troops, took all of it's ports and territories, and still didn't defeat it. Be careful with sea tiles when you kill enemies units on sea by air, you need to capture them by your units also to eliminate that group/country. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Jan 11, 2021 17:03:12 GMT
Ah, OK. Thanks yuanzhong, I didn't realize you needed to take the sea tiles after you destroy them by air. |
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Just look at the turn need to finish to Army mode / Conquest in speed run, Conquest in GoG3 is the easiest among all (except some case as Belgium and Dutch 1939). Almost gurus of ET games don't play GoG3 (Stoic, Andrei, Singlemalt, Max Otto von Stierlitz .... I don't know why, may be they are busy 
), If they did, you would see more insane numbers of turns in Army mode speedrun for sure.
