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Post by rocketbooster on Feb 5, 2021 1:23:58 GMT
Port yes they joined ON GERMANY's side. They jointly entered Poland and split it 50/50 This is revisionist. The Soviets didn't "team up" with the Nazis as many like to paint it. The Soviets were begging for the help of America with Germany and didn't want to join arms against them without a guarantee of support since they would be entering a war with two fronts. The treaty was expected to be broken by Hitler and was simply a measure to delay, for the Soviets and Nazis, neither side was 100% committed without ensuring proper support. Stalin anticipated correctly and did eventually get the help of the Americans. Stop with the anti Soviet propaganda pieces our western nations push |
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Post by Don Quixote de la Mancha on Feb 5, 2021 2:07:04 GMT
Yes, I know this was wrong and I ment co-belligerent, I am sorry for the mistake as I have said earlier in the thread
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Post by HangryBird on Feb 5, 2021 2:13:29 GMT
Port yes they joined ON GERMANY's side. They jointly entered Poland and split it 50/50 This is revisionist. The Soviets didn't "team up" with the Nazis as many like to paint it. The Soviets were begging for the help of America with Germany and didn't want to join arms against them without a guarantee of support since they would be entering a war with two fronts. The treaty was expected to be broken by Hitler and was simply a measure to delay, for the Soviets and Nazis, neither side was 100% committed without ensuring proper support. Stalin anticipated correctly and did eventually get the help of the Americans. Stop with the anti Soviet propaganda pieces our western nations push Your argument doesn't address the fact that the soviets still cooperated with Germany to invade Poland. That's what teaming up is. Don Quixote de la Mancha , may have been wrong about the Germans and Soviets being on the same side, but they were right about how Germany and Russia still cooperated with each other. Furthermore, Stalin never saw American support as necessary until he got caught with his pants down in the initial stages of Operation Barbarossa. If Hitler left the soviets alone, Stalin would have eventually invaded him with a fully prepared Red Army. Stalin would be willing to fight Germany without American support if Hitler did everything that Stalin predicted he would do. This isn't revisionist nor propaganda. It's fact. By the way, isn't it revisionist for you to downplay the soviet invasion of Poland? |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Feb 5, 2021 12:39:11 GMT
Don Quixote de la Mancha, the Soviets got like a third of the population. It was nowhere near 50-50. However, the Soviets still killed double the Poles as Germany, so there is officially some reason to believe that the Poles did not like Soviet occupation. We at your local news station are horrified that some people do not like the glory of communism. Coming back next time with a theatrical representation of "Ode to Lenin"
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Post by Port on Feb 5, 2021 14:26:47 GMT
It's out on IOS.
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Post by HangryBird on Feb 5, 2021 17:05:18 GMT
RIP Franco, he got a generic portrait.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Feb 5, 2021 20:38:49 GMT
RIP Franco, he got a generic portrait. I know, even Classic gave him a spot in the HQ. |
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