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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2021 2:18:49 GMT
Patton is not overrated as a field commander. The 3rd Army operations during the Normandy breakout and advance to the Rhine should have breached the German frontier in ‘44 if supplies had not been prioritized to Market Garden. During the Ardennes Offensive, the 3rd Army disengaged, reorganized, moved 100 miles in i climate weather, and launched an effective offensive in 72 hours. The relief of Bastogne was one of the most impressive maneuvers of the war. Rommel had reached to El-Alamein (middle of Egypt in east-west distance) with supplies which German high command thought were barely enough to defend Tripolitania from British and if he had been provided enough supplies, he would have swept the British out of suez. And we must not forget the adventures of the ghost division. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Feb 27, 2021 14:47:03 GMT
Did you really want Stalin's regime to take control of all of Mainland Europe? They destroyed the Germans mostly on their own so they deserve that Even if they "deserved it" I, personally would prefer a Europe not under Stalin's (a man who killed 'unnaturally' 6 times as many people as Hitler) iron fist. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2021 15:23:02 GMT
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend" Ok , then it was an unholy and opportunistic alliance, it didn't deserved victory. So your saying Hitler should have won? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2021 15:25:03 GMT
They destroyed the Germans mostly on their own so they deserve that Even if they "deserved it" I, personally would prefer a Europe not under Stalin's (a man who killed 'unnaturally' 6 times as many people as Hitler) iron fist. Then this means allies allied with more evil to defeat less evil |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2021 15:31:50 GMT
Ok , then it was an unholy and opportunistic alliance, it didn't deserved victory. So your saying Hitler should have won? [br Who said that ? I never said that? I only said , United Nations ( official name of allies) was an unholy and opportunistic alliance hence it didn't deserved victory. Now there is no mention of Hitler but I know his nation was their enemy but here I want to say , on your and your friend's statements' basis that United Nations was an unholy and opportunistic alliance. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2021 15:31:55 GMT
Even if they "deserved it" I, personally would prefer a Europe not under Stalin's (a man who killed 'unnaturally' 6 times as many people as Hitler) iron fist. Then this means allies allied with more evil to defeat less evil I will tell you exactly what I told several people before you.... Stalin was not more evil than Hitler, not by any means. Yes, Stalin did commit more executions than Hitler, but this was more out of paranoia than sheer sadism. Hitler, on the other hand, intentionally murdered countless people simply because they were "inferior" to Hitler's "master race". Stalin was not evil, he was paranoid and delusional. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2021 15:37:22 GMT
Then this means allies allied with more evil to defeat less evil I will tell you exactly what I told several people before you.... Stalin was not more evil than Hitler, not by any means. Yes, Stalin did commit more executions than Hitler, but this was more out of paranoia than sheer sadism. Hitler, on the other hand, intentionally murdered countless people simply because they were "inferior" to Hitler's "master race". Stalin was not evil, he was paranoid and delusional. But this contradicts your friend's statement |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2021 15:40:47 GMT
But this contradicts your friend's statement do you mean Gerd von Rundstedt? I understand what he means. Although Stalin was not generally evil, Letting him take control of Mainland Europe would have lead to a very different outcome of the Cold War. In fact, we could have been living in a world dominated by communists. I think Gerd von Rundstedt's statement was more political than personal. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2021 15:41:18 GMT
What are your views about General Douglas McArthur , I hope I am stating his rank right
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2021 15:41:34 GMT
Actually, That's a good thread idea
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2021 15:44:22 GMT
But this contradicts your friend's statement do you mean Gerd von Rundstedt? I understand what he means. Although Stalin was not generally evil, Letting him take control of Mainland Europe would have lead to a very different outcome of the Cold War. In fact, we could have been living in a world dominated by communists. I think Gerd von Rundstedt's statement was more political than personal. Yes , he is referred as "your friend". Now , British empire and USA were not like pure symbols of goodness . What about them. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2021 15:45:45 GMT
But this contradicts your friend's statement do you mean Gerd von Rundstedt? I understand what he means. Although Stalin was not generally evil, Letting him take control of Mainland Europe would have lead to a very different outcome of the Cold War. In fact, we could have been living in a world dominated by communists. I think Gerd von Rundstedt's statement was more political than personal. It seems he is staunchly anti-communist. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2021 15:48:00 GMT
Do you think General Douglas MacArthur was the most capable American(USA) commander.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2021 15:50:04 GMT
Do you think General Douglas MacArthur was the most capable American(USA) commander. Yes. Patton was good but not as succesful, Eisenhower was more of a grand strategist than a field commander. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Feb 27, 2021 17:22:53 GMT
Do you think General Douglas MacArthur was the most capable American(USA) commander. Yes. Patton was good but not as succesful, Eisenhower was more of a grand strategist than a field commander. Agreed on all accounts. |
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