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Post by eeeeef on Feb 12, 2021 3:55:22 GMT
Right now I'm at discovery age but I only have 7 units strong enough to stand a chance, I'm now currently looking forward to upgrade/buying a discovery age general to help me out in invasions and 8 general campaigns. Who should I invest into? Also my main generals are Attila, Alexander, Barbarossa, Nobunaga, Catherine, Lincoln, and Saladin.
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Feb 12, 2021 4:30:14 GMT
Hannibal and Cleopatra may not be optimal for operations beyond their respective eras.
I upgraded Mocty mainly for his healing ability. If you need it, then upgrade him.
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Post by dain on Feb 12, 2021 7:59:38 GMT
I'd also suggest Moctezuma - not only for healing (which usually won't trigger in time during invasions), but for Leadership (enemy attack reduction).
If you would like to go cavalry way, buy Edward (another cavalry commander, and also with Leadership). The only problem is that AI is not attacking with cavalry optimally. So for invasions I'd recommend Moctezuma.
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Post by Iron Duke on Feb 12, 2021 8:53:24 GMT
Buy Jhansi anyway: coins are easily replaced and you can still buy others if you find she's not what you need.
What are your plans for artillery?
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Post by eeeeef on Feb 12, 2021 8:55:43 GMT
Buy Jhansi anyway: coins are easily replaced and you can still buy others if you find she's not what you need. What are your plans for artillery? Whoops I already upgraded Moctezuma to 4 stars. I plan to save up for Li Shimin when i have excess medals.
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Post by Iron Duke on Feb 12, 2021 13:55:42 GMT
Buy Jhansi anyway: coins are easily replaced and you can still buy others if you find she's not what you need. What are your plans for artillery? Whoops I already upgraded Moctezuma to 4 stars. I plan to save up for Li Shimin when i have excess medals. I'd say you want to get Li Shimin asap then as you're going to have to upgrade him too to make him useful. Perhaps it would make sense to wait until you're at level 70 and 125 cities so you get 8x20 for your daily missions, but that would depend on how far away from there you currently are.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Feb 13, 2021 6:17:25 GMT
Hannibal and Cleopatra may not be optimal for operations beyond their respective eras. I upgraded Mocty mainly for his healing ability. If you need it, then upgrade him. I think Cleopatra can still be useful. 3 range means free rumor hit in most cases. Yes Bismarck exists but it doesn't hurt to add another 21% chance. On the other hand, Li Shimin doesn't really look appealing to me as his characteristics are... somewhat awkward relative to his cost.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Feb 13, 2021 14:07:46 GMT
Hannibal and Cleopatra may not be optimal for operations beyond their respective eras. I upgraded Mocty mainly for his healing ability. If you need it, then upgrade him. I think Cleopatra can still be useful. 3 range means free rumor hit in most cases. Yes Bismarck exists but it doesn't hurt to add another 21% chance. On the other hand, Li Shimin doesn't really look appealing to me as his characteristics are... somewhat awkward relative to his cost. Even though I am a big advocate of using free gens, Li Shining is a must, with Fire Dragon, Logistics, Explosives Master, and his other passive which I can't remember but I know it's really good.
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Post by eeeeef on Feb 13, 2021 14:09:04 GMT
I think Cleopatra can still be useful. 3 range means free rumor hit in most cases. Yes Bismarck exists but it doesn't hurt to add another 21% chance. On the other hand, Li Shimin doesn't really look appealing to me as his characteristics are... somewhat awkward relative to his cost. Even though I am a big advocate of using free gens, Li Shining is a must, with Fire Dragon, Logistics, Explosives Master, and his other passive which I can't remember but I know it's really good. His last passive is Marshall
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Feb 13, 2021 16:00:39 GMT
I think Cleopatra can still be useful. 3 range means free rumor hit in most cases. Yes Bismarck exists but it doesn't hurt to add another 21% chance. On the other hand, Li Shimin doesn't really look appealing to me as his characteristics are... somewhat awkward relative to his cost. Even though I am a big advocate of using free gens, Li Shining is a must, with Fire Dragon, Logistics, Explosives Master, and his other passive which I can't remember but I know it's really good. FD: his AOE doesn't really deal that much later in game, probably like 5% of the total HP? Logistics: you will rarely give him the last hit. The commanders, Blucher, and the artifact wielders need them more. Explosives Master: he's not Cleopatra so he won't be triggering it often. Plus artifacts are better. On top of that, Li Shimin's staggering cost. He is the most expensive artillery general to upgrade in the entire game, if we only upgrade the levels and the better skills. Cleopatra plus Khalid/Bismarck is just about half of that.
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Post by eeeeef on Feb 13, 2021 16:10:37 GMT
Even though I am a big advocate of using free gens, Li Shining is a must, with Fire Dragon, Logistics, Explosives Master, and his other passive which I can't remember but I know it's really good. FD: his AOE doesn't really deal that much later in game, probably like 5% of the total HP? Logistics: you will rarely give him the last hit. The commanders, Blucher, and the artifact wielders need them more. Explosives Master: he's not Cleopatra so he won't be triggering it often. Plus artifacts are better. On top of that, Li Shimin's staggering cost. He is the most expensive artillery general to upgrade in the entire game, if we only upgrade the levels and the better skills. Cleopatra plus Khalid/Bismarck is just about half of that. Who says he needs to kill enemies on the front line to utilise logistics? He can just retreat when he is low and hit a defenceless wall for a turn or two and get back into the battlefield in fighting shape.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Feb 15, 2021 8:50:31 GMT
FD: his AOE doesn't really deal that much later in game, probably like 5% of the total HP? Logistics: you will rarely give him the last hit. The commanders, Blucher, and the artifact wielders need them more. Explosives Master: he's not Cleopatra so he won't be triggering it often. Plus artifacts are better. On top of that, Li Shimin's staggering cost. He is the most expensive artillery general to upgrade in the entire game, if we only upgrade the levels and the better skills. Cleopatra plus Khalid/Bismarck is just about half of that. Who says he needs to kill enemies on the front line to utilise logistics? He can just retreat when he is low and hit a defenceless wall for a turn or two and get back into the battlefield in fighting shape. Then you have to fight without him for those turns. The biggest problem is the cost. Li's cost is second only to Caesar, while a duo out of Cleopatra, Khalid, and Bismarck is around half that amount. He's nowhere near bad, but his quality doesn't quite match his price.
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Post by eeeeef on Feb 15, 2021 8:55:25 GMT
Who says he needs to kill enemies on the front line to utilise logistics? He can just retreat when he is low and hit a defenceless wall for a turn or two and get back into the battlefield in fighting shape. Then you have to fight without him for those turns. The biggest problem is the cost. Li's cost is second only to Caesar, while a duo out of Cleopatra, Khalid, and Bismarck is around half that amount. He's nowhere near bad, but his quality doesn't quite match his price. The problem is I want a reliable solo Artillery guy that can run deep into enemy lines, kamikaze the objective, take a beating, and be good for objectives that don't include blowing stuff up such as:occypy this building, kill this unit, protect this building, etc.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Feb 15, 2021 8:57:52 GMT
Then you have to fight without him for those turns. The biggest problem is the cost. Li's cost is second only to Caesar, while a duo out of Cleopatra, Khalid, and Bismarck is around half that amount. He's nowhere near bad, but his quality doesn't quite match his price. The problem is I want a reliable solo Artillery guy that can run deep into enemy lines, kamikaze the objective, take a beating, and be good for objectives that don't include blowing stuff up such as:occypy this building, kill this unit, protect this building, etc. Bismarck?
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Post by eeeeef on Feb 15, 2021 9:00:03 GMT
The problem is I want a reliable solo Artillery guy that can run deep into enemy lines, kamikaze the objective, take a beating, and be good for objectives that don't include blowing stuff up such as:occypy this building, kill this unit, protect this building, etc. Bismarck? He goes down more easily and is less reliable in conquest without logistics and he's more of a support in my eyes, also I'm nowhere near the level to unlock hamburg.
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