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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 10, 2021 14:37:39 GMT
How? It is the best starrage of any IAP. In GOG3, Hybridity is useless as a general's ouput relies heavily on skills. Specialists>Jacks of all trades. He specializes in Infantry?! |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2021 14:42:23 GMT
He specializes in Infantry?! Yes. I know. But his Navy stars are worthless. He's kind of like Yamamoto but with inf stars and skills. So why give him 4 naval stars? Even if you throw him on a aircraft carrier(which ET loves to do in 44 for some reason) his output will pale in comparison to air specialists like Halsey or even Novikov. He should not have so many stars. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 10, 2021 14:45:39 GMT
He specializes in Infantry?! Yes. I know. But his Navy stars are worthless. He's kind of like Yamamoto but with inf stars and skills. So why give him 4 naval stars? Even if you throw him on a aircraft carrier(which ET loves to do in 44 for some reason) his output will pale in comparison to air specialists like Halsey or even Novikov. He should not have so many stars. Navy stars are the ones that work when one is in a transport, and they are tacked on after the 50% drop, meaning that he is strong on a transport. He even has Crowd Tactics, also tacked on after. |
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Post by STILETT0 on May 10, 2021 14:47:19 GMT
Yes. I know. But his Navy stars are worthless. He's kind of like Yamamoto but with inf stars and skills. So why give him 4 naval stars? Even if you throw him on a aircraft carrier(which ET loves to do in 44 for some reason) his output will pale in comparison to air specialists like Halsey or even Novikov. He should not have so many stars. Navy stars are the ones that work when one is in a transport, and they are tacked on after the 50% drop, meaning that he is strong on a transport. He even has Crowd Tactics, also tacked on after. So, IAP DeGaulle. Support only. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 10, 2021 14:51:53 GMT
Navy stars are the ones that work when one is in a transport, and they are tacked on after the 50% drop, meaning that he is strong on a transport. He even has Crowd Tactics, also tacked on after. So, IAP DeGaulle. Support only. No, what did I say, he also does a ton of damage. Yes, his first job is support, but he gets +50 damage at almost all times when attacking and +35 when Counterattacking, almost as much as Zhukov when attacking, and 10 more than Zhukov when counterattacking. |
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Post by HangryBird on May 10, 2021 15:28:24 GMT
And Macarthur and Rundstedt/Yamashita can't replace Ike? Yes Ike's damage is nice but he has NO survivability skills, Crowd Tactics can be as much of a nuisance as a benefit. His only advantage is his aura and apparantly the inf aura is bugged so if that's true he's literally the inf version of Nagumo; Sexy damage but there are better choices. The inf aura is bugged in the AI-given version in Operation Overlord. I use him as a very nice support gen, and Inspiration means he can never be in chaos at the start of one's turn. Ike is a hard hitting aura boy. How is Crowd Tactics a nuisance? When will you keep Ike at less than 4 stacks? Survivability, I agree And I wish he had more. I think Eisenhower is good because he has the sheer damage and aura to compensate for having no survivability skills. But, I also find it hard to believe that turtling Eisenhower by maintaining 4 stacks is a good idea. If you baby him like that, he's not going to see any combat besides clean-up. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2021 15:29:17 GMT
The inf aura is bugged in the AI-given version in Operation Overlord. I use him as a very nice support gen, and Inspiration means he can never be in chaos at the start of one's turn. Ike is a hard hitting aura boy. How is Crowd Tactics a nuisance? When will you keep Ike at less than 4 stacks? Survivability, I agree And I wish he had more. I think Eisenhower is good because he has the sheer damage and aura to compensate for having no survivability skills. But, I also find it hard to believe that turtling Eisenhower by maintaining 4 stacks is a good idea. If you baby him like that, he's not going to see any combat besides clean-up. *cough Gerd von Rundstedt *cough |
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Post by HangryBird on May 10, 2021 15:33:44 GMT
So, IAP DeGaulle. Support only. No, what did I say, he also does a ton of damage. Yes, his first job is support, but he gets +50 damage at almost all times when attacking and +35 when Counterattacking, almost as much as Zhukov when attacking, and 10 more than Zhukov when counterattacking. Aura grants a straight +15 attack. So if the condition for Crowd Tactics is met, Eisenhower gets +50 damage in both phases. He is an attacker first, support second. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 10, 2021 15:35:16 GMT
No, what did I say, he also does a ton of damage. Yes, his first job is support, but he gets +50 damage at almost all times when attacking and +35 when Counterattacking, almost as much as Zhukov when attacking, and 10 more than Zhukov when counterattacking. Aura grants a straight +15 attack. So if the condition for Crowd Tactics is met, Eisenhower gets +50 damage in both phases. Really?! Wow! So is that the same for Doenitz's Wolfpack? If so, I made a terrible mistake in getting Mountbatten. |
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Post by HangryBird on May 10, 2021 15:48:08 GMT
Yes. I know. But his Navy stars are worthless. He's kind of like Yamamoto but with inf stars and skills. So why give him 4 naval stars? Even if you throw him on a aircraft carrier(which ET loves to do in 44 for some reason) his output will pale in comparison to air specialists like Halsey or even Novikov. He should not have so many stars. Navy stars are the ones that work when one is in a transport, and they are tacked on after the 50% drop, meaning that he is strong on a transport. He even has Crowd Tactics, also tacked on after. His navy stars are useless. Why would you use transports to attack? It's his infantry and air stars that matter. |
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Post by HangryBird on May 10, 2021 15:50:35 GMT
Aura grants a straight +15 attack. So if the condition for Crowd Tactics is met, Eisenhower gets +50 damage in both phases. Really?! Wow! So is that the same for Doenitz's Wolfpack? If so, I made a terrible mistake in getting Mountbatten. All the aura skills grant a straight +15 attack. |
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Post by HangryBird on May 10, 2021 16:05:38 GMT
It's not a fair comparison when you compare gens of one unit type to another unit type. Just because he is infantry, Eisenhower is the worst IAP, even though he is a very strong infantry.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 10, 2021 16:12:03 GMT
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Post by HangryBird on May 10, 2021 16:16:06 GMT
Dang, HangryBird , why are you hating on infantry? Because statistically, infantry is the weakest type of unit. It's why they are the cheapest to recruit and replenish. |
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Post by Warlord247 on May 10, 2021 16:57:04 GMT
I found a new quote I like
"I fear you close by
I love you far away"
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