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Post by stoic on Mar 13, 2021 6:21:46 GMT
How to beat Zeus: reflections, contemplations and perspectives Well, the most obvious path, of course, is to buy good generals you don't have (I don't have many, actually, including Nobunaga who is very useful in Trials). Downside is that it will take a lot of time/medals. My idea is to promote to 6 stars grey generals otherwise completely left aside such as Pachacuti, Batu, Suriyothai, Spartacus. And those grey generals who already proved to be worthy of investments - Xerxes and Jhansi. Some of them have nice abilities at lvl 6. It shouldn't be especially expensive, and we have a nice substitution bench without ruining ourselves. What do you think, guys?
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Post by stoic on Mar 13, 2021 6:51:27 GMT
My current team is a modest one with many blue generals in it, so I can't hope that I will achieve much just by improving their equipment. Besides, I think we need many 6* generals to beat the following "Decisive battle" anyway.
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Post by stoic on Mar 13, 2021 6:57:06 GMT
Just noticed that my Attilla's defense is better than that of any of andrei's generals But probably someone with Suleiman or Caesar will beat it
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Post by Iron Duke on Mar 13, 2021 10:31:41 GMT
How to beat Zeus: reflections, contemplations and perspectives Well, the most obvious path, of course, is to buy good generals you don't have (I don't have many, actually, including Nobunaga who is very useful in Trials). Downside is that it will take a lot of time/medals. My idea is to promote to 6 stars grey generals otherwise completely left aside such as Pachacuti, Batu, Suriyothai, Spartacus. And those grey generals who already proved to be worthy of investments - Xerxes and Jhansi. Some of them have nice abilities at lvl 6. It shouldn't be especially expensive, and we have a nice substitution bench without ruining ourselves. What do you think, guys? There is another option: to upgrade some of the other blues like Robin, Cleo, Khalid, Cathy, Lincoln, Joan etc (I know you have some at 6* already, as do I, but you get the idea). I just had another trial and Joan can take a fair amount of punishment. I'm thinking the strategy has to be split into 3 main sections: how to reach the Zeus battle; how to clear his minions; how to finish him off. The first 2 must be achieved with a team left over strong enough to achieve the last one. As for tactics, perhaps an approach of wear them down with a sacrificial B team then mop up with the A team in each battle is the way? I also think using waves of just 2/3/4 has it's place, although perhaps only in specific situations.
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Post by Iron Duke on Mar 13, 2021 10:37:53 GMT
My current team is a modest one with many blue generals in it, so I can't hope that I will achieve much just by improving their equipment. Besides, I think we need many 6* generals to beat the following "Decisive battle" anyway. The decisive battle is like a walk in the park after this one Regarding equipment, if you don't already have Aegis then I recommend going for that first: it requires only game play to obtain and Holy Relics to upgrade.
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Post by stoic on Mar 13, 2021 11:21:39 GMT
My current team is a modest one with many blue generals in it, so I can't hope that I will achieve much just by improving their equipment. Besides, I think we need many 6* generals to beat the following "Decisive battle" anyway. The decisive battle is like a walk in the park after this one Regarding equipment, if you don't already have Aegis then I recommend going for that first: it requires only game play to obtain and Holy Relics to upgrade. I wanted to complete Asgard before playing Temple, but probably you are right...
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Post by stoic on Mar 13, 2021 11:29:35 GMT
My current team is a modest one with many blue generals in it, so I can't hope that I will achieve much just by improving their equipment. Besides, I think we need many 6* generals to beat the following "Decisive battle" anyway. The decisive battle is like a walk in the park after this one Oh, is there any valuable reward? It is Hades with a war scythe, isn't it?
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Post by Iron Duke on Mar 13, 2021 12:49:16 GMT
The decisive battle is like a walk in the park after this one Regarding equipment, if you don't already have Aegis then I recommend going for that first: it requires only game play to obtain and Holy Relics to upgrade. I wanted to complete Asgard before playing Temple, but probably you are right... Well that is certainly possible, it was just a suggestion for increasing the chances of completing the trial and would depend on where that lies on your list of priorities
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Post by Iron Duke on Mar 13, 2021 12:52:38 GMT
The decisive battle is like a walk in the park after this one Oh, is there any valuable reward? It is Hades with a war scythe, isn't it? Hades plus Minotaur, a couple of wolves, Caesar, Ghengis, dead easy No reward to get excited about though, just some medals and the prestige of having completed it
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Post by eeeeef on Mar 13, 2021 12:55:28 GMT
Oh, is there any valuable reward? It is Hades with a war scythe, isn't it? Hades plus Minotaur, a couple of wolves, Caesar, Ghengis, dead easy No reward to get excited about though, just some medals and the prestige of having completed it Is Greek Trial III harder than Greek Decisive battle?
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Post by Iron Duke on Mar 13, 2021 13:09:00 GMT
Hades plus Minotaur, a couple of wolves, Caesar, Ghengis, dead easy No reward to get excited about though, just some medals and the prestige of having completed it Is Greek Trial III harder than Greek Decisive battle? I certainly found it to be so on the only occasion that I've tried the last one: I completed it at the first attempt and didn't have to throw anywhere near as many generals at it. It's still tougher than all of the others, but I'm confident that a stable capable of defeating the third can do it.
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Mar 13, 2021 21:09:52 GMT
Copied my post from the other thread
I'm convinced that having two arty gens at the end is a must to deal with the cannons in the rear, but Zeus is untouchable by melee troops. (Note: I'm not sure if this applies to inf gens with the "Marching" skill.) If it were a case of player VS Zeus alone, an Archer-arty team would work. However, we would lose our archers in the first attempt to remove Zues' support. This doesn't account for the fact that the player's AI seemingly behaves worse in the Greek trials and the enemies can actually decimate your troops before you can even reach Zeus. I got so traumatised and became so desperate that I began to invest in some "useless" gens as fillers. As for Iron Duke's suggestion, the enemy troops will move forward if they cannot hit you. Zeus should remain still, not that recall using this strategy on him. Without the additional back line for support, my troops get slaughtered.
Added content: stoic, I think that if we consider this post-endgame content as a necessary requisite for a "true, full" clear, we may have to rethink our past evaluations of certain gens or add an additional note like we did for History Mode gens in EW6: 1914. Catherine the Great is one example, seeing as how numerous notable enemies are archers. I do agree with the quantity idea. For example, an inf line of Lincoln, Petain and another gen may be good for withstanding cav centric battles. On the other hand, it may be time to go overboard with the auras. Here, the enemies are significantly tougher and can take more punishment while dealing significantly more dmg over time, similar to the Industrial Age troops. The most ideal set up would be a main DPS or two, the two different atk aura gens and two support auras like healing or defence boost.
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Post by Iron Duke on Mar 13, 2021 21:54:30 GMT
Conrad in heavy armour might be worth consideration as a meat-shield: only 450 to 6* and he gets Armor.
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Post by Iron Duke on Mar 19, 2021 13:47:29 GMT
How to beat Zeus: reflections, contemplations and perspectives Well, the most obvious path, of course, is to buy good generals you don't have (I don't have many, actually, including Nobunaga who is very useful in Trials). Downside is that it will take a lot of time/medals. My idea is to promote to 6 stars grey generals otherwise completely left aside such as Pachacuti, Batu, Suriyothai, Spartacus. And those grey generals who already proved to be worthy of investments - Xerxes and Jhansi. Some of them have nice abilities at lvl 6. It shouldn't be especially expensive, and we have a nice substitution bench without ruining ourselves. What do you think, guys? Have you had many more attempts at this or are you still building up the team?
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Post by stoic on Mar 19, 2021 15:38:12 GMT
How to beat Zeus: reflections, contemplations and perspectives Well, the most obvious path, of course, is to buy good generals you don't have (I don't have many, actually, including Nobunaga who is very useful in Trials). Downside is that it will take a lot of time/medals. My idea is to promote to 6 stars grey generals otherwise completely left aside such as Pachacuti, Batu, Suriyothai, Spartacus. And those grey generals who already proved to be worthy of investments - Xerxes and Jhansi. Some of them have nice abilities at lvl 6. It shouldn't be especially expensive, and we have a nice substitution bench without ruining ourselves. What do you think, guys? Have you had many more attempts at this or are you still building up the team? I tried another road once and only two generals were still alive after the second battle I noticed that success is largely depends on what enemies do we have in this or that battle. Some of them are really tough, for example, Petain, who was able to withstand all attacks by Attilla and Hanibal (and they both have insane bonuses against infantry!), while archers and Artillery simply destroyed my team from a distance.
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