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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Mar 16, 2021 15:39:13 GMT
Speed is uneccesary for inf, with so many special forces, this man will last forever, and inf leader increases dmg. In addition, this game favors survivability to output. Speed can be neccesary if you are going for perfect clears. Yes he is a meatshield but to keep him alive you will have to constantly replenish him in cities, meaning he'll likely lag behind when you are attempting to attack a major stronghold. The only thing I can see him being really good for is annilihation campaigns or defensive missions, but then you can just use Model. One thing I do like about rundstedt, though, is his swiss army general status. He is actually pretty good on heavy tanks, giving you an alternative for when your Guderian/Rommel/Manstein has been bombed into oblivion by 800 artillery pieces. Ha! To keep him alive, you just have him not attack double Rommel Maus. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Mar 16, 2021 15:40:53 GMT
Which is more survivable: triple stack inf with special force, or single stack of tank? Inf have excellent survivability! Well, OK, but it can't deal proper damage especially against tanks (especially with special forces  ) Infantry's main role is a meatshield attraction of the enemy forces and arty killers. And being arty killer means being fast. Rundstedt is slow) The special forces addition means that Infantry can do practically everything. They are not confined to Arty killing. They can do plenty of dmg to tanks. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2021 15:41:24 GMT
Speed can be neccesary if you are going for perfect clears. Yes he is a meatshield but to keep him alive you will have to constantly replenish him in cities, meaning he'll likely lag behind when you are attempting to attack a major stronghold. The only thing I can see him being really good for is annilihation campaigns or defensive missions, but then you can just use Model. One thing I do like about rundstedt, though, is his swiss army general status. He is actually pretty good on heavy tanks, giving you an alternative for when your Guderian/Rommel/Manstein has been bombed into oblivion by 800 artillery pieces. Ha! To keep him alive, you just have him not attack double Rommel Maus. Hey, I would love to see Rundstedt on a 4 stack max Grenadier against Rommel on a double Maus! who do you think wins? |
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Post by andrei on Mar 16, 2021 15:44:34 GMT
Well, OK, but it can't deal proper damage especially against tanks (especially with special forces ) Infantry's main role is a meatshield attraction of the enemy forces and arty killers. And being arty killer means being fast. Rundstedt is slow) The special forces addition means that Infantry can do practically everything. They are not confined to Arty killing. They can do plenty of dmg to tanks. Yeah, they only need to be same fast as tanks. And they are not. Normally in ET games You are not defending - You always attack. And Rundstedt is a burden. You need to keep Your forces together. How will You do that if Your tanks and arty gens are way faster?! |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Mar 16, 2021 15:50:23 GMT
Ha! To keep him alive, you just have him not attack double Rommel Maus. Hey, I would love to see Rundstedt on a 4 stack max Grenadier against Rommel on a double Maus! who do you think wins? Obviously Rommel. However, Rommel also costs 69 gold more. Have Rundstedt teamed with a triple inf and a triple Akita, then see who wins |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Mar 16, 2021 15:50:54 GMT
The special forces addition means that Infantry can do practically everything. They are not confined to Arty killing. They can do plenty of dmg to tanks. Yeah, they only need to be same fast as tanks. And they are not. Normally in ET games You are not defending - You always attack. And Rundstedt is a burden. You need to keep Your forces together. How will You do that if Your tanks and arty gens are way faster?! Many special forces let them be very fast. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Mar 17, 2021 1:36:39 GMT
Which is more survivable: triple stack inf with special force, or single stack of tank? Inf have excellent survivability! Well, OK, but it can't deal proper damage especially against tanks (especially with special forces ) Infantry's main role is a meatshield attraction of the enemy forces and arty killers. And being arty killer means being fast. Rundstedt is slow) Infantry is good at paratrooping into cities, so rundstedt’s speed may not be that problematic. Plus when the update comes around, add more movements star on rundstedt and he will be perfect. That being said tho, infantry makes lowsy antitanks. The best antitanks are artillery generals |
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Post by HangryBird on Mar 17, 2021 1:47:37 GMT
Well, OK, but it can't deal proper damage especially against tanks (especially with special forces ) Infantry's main role is a meatshield attraction of the enemy forces and arty killers. And being arty killer means being fast. Rundstedt is slow) Infantry is good at paratrooping into cities, so rundstedt’s speed may not be that problematic. Plus when the update comes around, add more movements star on rundstedt and he will be perfect. That being said tho, infantry makes lowsy antitanks. The best antitanks are artillery generals I don't think we're going to be able to change the skills or stars of a general. The picture just had an upgrade button with no indication of what exactly is being upgraded. |
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Post by Don Quixote de la Mancha on Mar 17, 2021 1:57:12 GMT
Infantry is good at paratrooping into cities, so rundstedt’s speed may not be that problematic. Plus when the update comes around, add more movements star on rundstedt and he will be perfect. That being said tho, infantry makes lowsy antitanks. The best antitanks are artillery generals I don't think we're going to be able to change the skills or stars of a general. The picture just had an upgrade button with no indication of what exactly is being upgraded. I'm pretty sure it will have 2 implications, Health boost and Damage boost. I hope that they will add more functions such as selling gens and upgrading their skills but this is unlikely. As for star upgrade, I have no desire for it, Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus, you have played WC4 I believe, see how that ended. Expensive gens and generally weak gens (overall). |
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Post by HangryBird on Mar 17, 2021 2:01:21 GMT
I don't think we're going to be able to change the skills or stars of a general. The picture just had an upgrade button with no indication of what exactly is being upgraded. I'm pretty sure it will have 2 implications, Health boost and Damage boost. I hope that they will add more functions such as selling gens and upgrading their skills but this is unlikely. As for star upgrade, I have no desire for it, Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus , you have played WC4 I believe, see how that ended. Expensive gens and generally weak gens (overall). Yep, agree on the health and damage boost. You will probably be able to click on the general's stars and get a pop-up that says +x attack and +x hp. Selling gens is good, but upgrading skills is a no. That's almost as worse as adding more stars to generals' stats. It was the customization of both skills and stars that led to WC4's grindy general system. |
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Post by Port on Mar 17, 2021 13:21:49 GMT
I'm pretty sure it will have 2 implications, Health boost and Damage boost. I hope that they will add more functions such as selling gens and upgrading their skills but this is unlikely. As for star upgrade, I have no desire for it, Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus , you have played WC4 I believe, see how that ended. Expensive gens and generally weak gens (overall). Yep, agree on the health and damage boost. You will probably be able to click on the general's stars and get a pop-up that says +x attack and +x hp. Selling gens is good, but upgrading skills is a no. That's almost as worse as adding more stars to generals' stats. It was the customization of both skills and stars that led to WC4's grindy general system. Hopefully you will get General Biographies as well. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2021 14:06:44 GMT
Well, OK, but it can't deal proper damage especially against tanks (especially with special forces ) Infantry's main role is a meatshield attraction of the enemy forces and arty killers. And being arty killer means being fast. Rundstedt is slow) Infantry is good at paratrooping into cities, so rundstedt’s speed may not be that problematic. Plus when the update comes around, add more movements star on rundstedt and he will be perfect. That being said tho, infantry makes lowsy antitanks. The best antitanks are artillery generals I disagree. You underestimate the power of an infantry general on a maxed 4-stack Grenadier. I've had Model tear the likes of Timoshenko, Rokossovsky and Vatutin to pieces. (Given, with Arty support from an Elefant, but still he did most of the damage. |
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Post by Port on Mar 18, 2021 0:14:42 GMT
Gerd von Rundstedt is extremely overrated. Abysmally slow, outperformed by Yamashita and even Kesselring in the right situation, barely better then Student who is ~500 Cheaper Yeah? Well you're overrated too! Wait, you're saying Vatutin is overrated, how dare you!!! |
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Post by eeeeef on Mar 18, 2021 4:13:30 GMT
Yeah? Well you're overrated too! Wait, you're saying Vatutin is overrated, how dare you!!! Oh no here we go again. |
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Post by HangryBird on Mar 18, 2021 4:17:30 GMT
Yeah? Well you're overrated too! Wait, you're saying Vatutin is overrated, how dare you!!! No, this was before Manstein changed their name to Vatutin. So, Rundstedt was actually saying that Manstein is overrated. |
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