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Post by HangryBird on Mar 18, 2021 0:27:54 GMT
Port I will formerly review Vatutin like Rundstedt and Macarthur on Saturday. I won’t give him the pink but I will state why others think he should be. Your reasoning is that he has paricularly massive output due to 4 tank stars, tide of iron, and anti armor correct? Yes, and that assault the chance to move twice on armor triggers equally for all armors, so why is it not a must have for Medium tank generals? You are referring to panzer leader being the key skill for KV-6 gens, right? If so, I explained it already in here. |
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Post by Port on Mar 18, 2021 0:29:02 GMT
Yes, and that assault the chance to move twice on armor triggers equally for all armors, so why is it not a must have for Medium tank generals? You are referring to panzer leader being the key skill for KV-6 gens, right? If so, I explained it already in here. Yes But I am saying Vatutin is still a very good option for KV-6. He is usable, and can perform decently, and is great when you have 2 KV-6's  . Battle of Kursk . |
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Post by HangryBird on Mar 18, 2021 0:30:07 GMT
You are referring to panzer leader being the key skill for KV-6 gens, right? If so, I explained it already in here. Yes But I am saying Vatutin is still a very good option for KV-6. He is usable, and can perform decently, and is great when you have 2 KV-6's . Battle of Kursk . In that case, yeah. Vatutin isn't the best KV-6 user, but he's still good. I'm still Team Vatutin. |
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Post by Port on Mar 18, 2021 0:31:25 GMT
Yes But I am saying Vatutin is still a very good option for KV-6. He is usable, and can perform decently, and is great when you have 2 KV-6's . Battle of Kursk . In that case, yeah. Vatutin isn't the best, but he's still good. That what I am saying, for Battle of Kursk, he can grind you medals, alongside Rokossovsky while on a KV-6 tank. . Also fun fact Battle of Kursk is where you get KV-6. |
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Post by HangryBird on Mar 18, 2021 0:35:24 GMT
In that case, yeah. Vatutin isn't the best KV-6 user, but he's still good. I'm still Team Vatutin. That what I am saying, for Battle of Kursk, he can grind you medals, alongside Rokossovsky while on a KV-6 tank. . Also fun fact Battle of Kursk is where you get KV-6. Any tank general can farm medals though as long as they are in the line-up. You just need a mission with a lot of enemies. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Mar 18, 2021 0:37:20 GMT
In that case, yeah. Vatutin isn't the best, but he's still good. That what I am saying, for Battle of Kursk, he can grind you medals, alongside Rokossovsky while on a KV-6 tank. . Also fun fact Battle of Kursk is where you get KV-6. Vatutin deals more damage than monty, but rokossovsky’s anti armor is amazing imo. And Patton is obviously amazing. So Patton > Rokossovsky > Vatutin > Monty is what I am going with. |
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Post by Port on Mar 18, 2021 0:37:26 GMT
Any tank general can farm medals though as long as they are in the line-up. You just need a mission with a lot of enemies. That is what I'm saying. He is in the lineup. I recalled someone saying that it was good, and fun for grinding because with all the Katyushas and KV-6s it was a fireworks show. There are a lot of enemies trust me, and also I do not use it for grinding but I guess I could. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Mar 18, 2021 15:53:05 GMT
You mentioned Rundstedt on the defensive being bad, but Infantry are always the best at defending a city because they can replenish and recruit there. Just a thought.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Mar 18, 2021 19:40:42 GMT
You mentioned Rundstedt on the defensive being bad, but Infantry are always the best at defending a city because they can replenish and recruit there. Just a thought. Valid point. But others with the skill garrison are better suited. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Mar 18, 2021 19:49:43 GMT
Dowding Pros: 3 stars infantry, paratrooper, 5 air stars, dive bombing, carpet bombing. Dive bombing + carpet bombing + 5 air force stars make him the perfect land air general.
Cons: Still a mediocre as an infantry general, when not a paratrooper don't expect him to be too useful on the battlefield. Also, lacks aura and sea scout so he is mediocre on carriers. Dowding is the best land allied air general as he simply does the most damage. He is a very useful general to have as he is capable of bombing the heck out of cities and paradropping onto cities. He can also defend the cities he drops into reasonably well. Furthermore, he is also one of the better early game allied generals you can purchase. However, in naval battles were you occasionally have multiple carriers side by side and dive bombing cannot be abused, dowding is just ok. Overall: Dowding is a mixed bag overall and you think about your decision to buy him before getting him. He has great air attacks on land, yet is still very limited as an actual infantry general. He only has paratrooper + 3 infantry stars and that's it. There are many people on this forum who feel that Dowding's viability on land is so bad that it is negligible. In that case, Halsey would arguably be a better option as he is cheaper and does more damage. However, Dowding also can bomb cities effectively and spam dive bombing which Halsey can't do. So, for the same amount of gold wasted, Dowding brings more to the table with an excellent demoralizing perk. I think both him and Halsey are equally viable options. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Mar 18, 2021 19:50:00 GMT
Kesselring Pros: Great stars, air force aura, dive bombing, good infantry ability and movement, good on carriers and on land.
Cons: Yamamoto is a good alternative that ironically is better on land (has higher output against units in cities) while being worse on infantry. Victory rush requires flanking which requires at least two units or air attack demoralization. Also requires a slot in the pacific where the land battles are the main challenge. So there are many good reasons to get Yamamoto over Kesselring. And Student is better at combat and paradropping, but deals far less damage by air.
Overall: Really not much needed to be said. A great general who is worth the medals and deals very good damage on air attacks. However, you should still think twice purchasing him Yamamoto who is useful in the Pacific campaigns.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Mar 18, 2021 19:50:21 GMT
Student Pros: the best paratrooper in the game, and a great infantry general too. Cons: Airforce ability is mediocre as he lacks any air attack perks. Overall: you can pick this guy over Kesselring. He is the better infantry general, much cheaper, but requires more gold to kill an enemy with air and lacks dive bombing demoralization. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Mar 18, 2021 19:50:46 GMT
Halsey
Pros: amazing carrier general, sea scout is good on carriers, has the highest output of any allied air general, useful in the pacific campaigns. Cons: no dive bombing : ( Overall: On par with Dowding. Halsey does more damage consistently and most importantly, is useful in both of the pacific campaigns which does tilt the scale in buying Halsey over Dowding. However, for those campaigns, MacArthur and Nimitz should be prioritized first. Overall, neither Dowding nor Halsey is a bad choice. |
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Post by zink on Mar 18, 2021 20:11:02 GMT
Vatutin deals more damage than monty, but rokossovsky’s anti armor is amazing imo. And Patton is obviously amazing. So Patton > Rokossovsky > Vatutin > Monty is what I am going with. Bruh Vatty still does more damage than Rocky to tanks |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Mar 18, 2021 20:27:14 GMT
Vatutin deals more damage than monty, but rokossovsky’s anti armor is amazing imo. And Patton is obviously amazing. So Patton > Rokossovsky > Vatutin > Monty is what I am going with. Bruh Vatty still does more damage than Rocky to tanks Max level panzer leader tho |
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