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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Mar 23, 2021 20:12:03 GMT
Armored Cars I like More than Medium Tanks for allied gens, but I like Medium tanks more for the Axis. What??? Medium tank generals are always more effective than armored car generals. Dragoon Corps is superior to any Allied Special Forces. |
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Post by HangryBird on Mar 23, 2021 20:30:40 GMT
What??? Medium tank generals are always more effective than armored car generals. Dragoon Corps is superior to any Allied Special Forces. KV-6 and Katyusha would like a word with you. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Mar 23, 2021 21:28:01 GMT
Dragoon Corps is superior to any Allied Special Forces. KV-6 and Katyusha would like a word with you. I meant Allied Medium Tank Special Forces. |
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Post by HangryBird on Mar 23, 2021 21:36:15 GMT
KV-6 and Katyusha would like a word with you. I meant Allied Medium Tank Special Forces. I think Dragoon Corps is almost, but not equal to ARL-44 and KV-2 because medium tanks have better stats and their special forces can be upgraded one more level than that of armored cars. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Mar 23, 2021 21:54:14 GMT
I meant Allied Medium Tank Special Forces. I think Dragoon Corps is almost, but not equal to ARL-44 and KV-2 because medium tanks have better stats and their special forces can be upgraded one more level than that of armored cars. Dragoon Corps practically makes a weaker tank with more critical hits and Machine Guns... I would say that it is better. |
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Post by HangryBird on Mar 23, 2021 22:16:53 GMT
I think Dragoon Corps is almost, but not equal to ARL-44 and KV-2 because medium tanks have better stats and their special forces can be upgraded one more level than that of armored cars. Dragoon Corps practically makes a weaker tank with more critical hits and Machine Guns... I would say that it is better. Let's compare them individually at max level, disregarding the fact that tanks have better stats. ARL-44 trades 30% more damage against infantry and 12% crit for a 25% chance to halve damage, 55 more hp, and 1 more defense. KV-2 trades 30% more damage against infantry and 1 more movement for a 30% air damage reduction, 2 more attack, 65 more hp, and 2 more defense. I still think the medium tanks are better. Also, Dragoon Corps is only one special force. What are you going to do in campaign mode when you've used it up already or in army group mode when you're playing as an army group without it? |
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Post by Port on Mar 23, 2021 23:18:58 GMT
I think Dragoon Corps is almost, but not equal to ARL-44 and KV-2 because medium tanks have better stats and their special forces can be upgraded one more level than that of armored cars. Dragoon Corps practically makes a weaker tank with more critical hits and Machine Guns... I would say that it is better. I think KV-2 wants to talk, about business. |
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Post by Amazing on Mar 24, 2021 16:43:47 GMT
I think this is one of the harder Allies missions. Congrats on Perfectly clearing it  When I did it I had Vatutin/KV6, Chuikov/Katyusha, Timoshenko/KV2 on the right medium tank, Alexander on the right Arty and LeClerc on the left medium tank. If you get all your units to hit Kleist from the first turn, you -SHOULD- be able to kill him on the 2nd turn, then the rest is easy. Make sure you clear either the right enemy infantry or arty as well so on your 2nd turn you can get the town and your main units can once again hit Kleist. Not sure what tech I had or what my special forces were at that point but it was probably around the same so that's another way you can do it for future reference to anyone else. Maybe Vatutin worked better because he just does more damage? Imo another reason why Vatutin is better than Roko. Also, having Patton or MacArthur as a requirement is a lie, I perfect cleared every Allied mission without either. |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Mar 24, 2021 19:12:21 GMT
I think this is one of the harder Allies missions. Congrats on Perfectly clearing it When I did it I had Vatutin/KV6, Chuikov/Katyusha, Timoshenko/KV2 on the right medium tank, Alexander on the right Arty and LeClerc on the left medium tank. If you get all your units to hit Kleist from the first turn, you -SHOULD- be able to kill him on the 2nd turn, then the rest is easy. Make sure you clear either the right enemy infantry or arty as well so on your 2nd turn you can get the town and your main units can once again hit Kleist. Not sure what tech I had or what my special forces were at that point but it was probably around the same so that's another way you can do it for future reference to anyone else. Maybe Vatutin worked better because he just does more damage? Imo another reason why Vatutin is better than Roko. Also, having Patton or MacArthur as a requirement is a lie, I perfect cleared every Allied mission without either. I only used what I had already invested in and repeated it accordingly. The idea of using <insert the name of elite gen(s) here> was only interpreted as a "requirement" later on. It's preferable to state for me to state who I used when providing guides, just in case the provided guide is not watertight and firepower was the lacking factor. Arguably, Vatutin can be used as Patton's replacement as an elite tank gen so that last statement is somewhat contradictory. |
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Post by Amazing on Mar 24, 2021 19:21:27 GMT
I think this is one of the harder Allies missions. Congrats on Perfectly clearing it When I did it I had Vatutin/KV6, Chuikov/Katyusha, Timoshenko/KV2 on the right medium tank, Alexander on the right Arty and LeClerc on the left medium tank. If you get all your units to hit Kleist from the first turn, you -SHOULD- be able to kill him on the 2nd turn, then the rest is easy. Make sure you clear either the right enemy infantry or arty as well so on your 2nd turn you can get the town and your main units can once again hit Kleist. Not sure what tech I had or what my special forces were at that point but it was probably around the same so that's another way you can do it for future reference to anyone else. Maybe Vatutin worked better because he just does more damage? Imo another reason why Vatutin is better than Roko. Also, having Patton or MacArthur as a requirement is a lie, I perfect cleared every Allied mission without either. I only used what I had already invested in and repeated it accordingly. The idea of using <insert the name of elite gen(s) here> was only interpreted as a "requirement" later on. It's preferable to state for me to state who I used when providing guides, just in case the provided guide is not watertight and firepower was the lacking factor. Arguably, Vatutin can be used as Patton's replacement as an elite tank gen so that last statement is somewhat contradictory. I was actually refering to Port for that comments on requiring certain specific generals. I don't think any specific general is needed to complete the game to date and it is all dependent on how you like to play especially with the addition of Special Forces which is what makes this game the most fun. Yes Vatutin and Patton are probably the same level so I guess its kinda contradictory. You do need to have an elite tank general until HangryBird proves us wrong |
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Post by HangryBird on Mar 24, 2021 19:23:00 GMT
I only used what I had already invested in and repeated it accordingly. The idea of using <insert the name of elite gen(s) here> was only interpreted as a "requirement" later on. It's preferable to state for me to state who I used when providing guides, just in case the provided guide is not watertight and firepower was the lacking factor. Arguably, Vatutin can be used as Patton's replacement as an elite tank gen so that last statement is somewhat contradictory. I was actually refering to Port for that comments on requiring certain specific generals. I don't think any specific general is needed to complete the game to date and it is all dependent on how you like to play especially with the addition of Special Forces which is what makes this game the most fun. Yes Vatutin and Patton are probably the same level so I guess its kinda contradictory. You do need to have an elite tank general until HangryBird proves us wrong Why me? Is it because of the whole free general challenge? |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Mar 24, 2021 19:25:18 GMT
Why me? Is it because of the whole free general challenge? Yep. Why not? North Africa is the ultimate challenge beyond the toughest naval operations of 1942. In fact, I believe raising tech restrictions is the best way to compensate for the lack of additional firepower. |
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Post by Amazing on Mar 24, 2021 19:38:15 GMT
Why me? Is it because of the whole free general challenge? Pretty much yes. I think 44 is the killer, even with max tech. But please do try |
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Post by HangryBird on Mar 24, 2021 19:40:35 GMT
Why me? Is it because of the whole free general challenge? Pretty much yes. I think 44 is the killer, even with max tech. But please do try Probably. Maybe I have a chance of clearing Allies, but I am having severe doubts about the axis campaign. |
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Post by Amazing on Mar 24, 2021 19:50:02 GMT
Pretty much yes. I think 44 is the killer, even with max tech. But please do try Probably. Maybe I have a chance of clearing Allies, but I am having severe doubts about the axis campaign. I think I will try and do all Allies with just free Generals but as Nobunaga Oda did point out in my AAR thread, Marching to Italy and Normandy are tough with just 5 generals. ^^ Don't think I can even do Pacific with just free Generals, nor would I even attempt it considering how painful it is to play Axis for me. Attempting East Indies or Coral Sea again would make me hate the game. |
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