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Post by Amazing on Apr 6, 2021 14:55:25 GMT
So I actually like this new so-called "mode", I find it kinda fun but at the same time also not as interesting as the campaign. I got to level 10 and then gave up for the day. Levels 8 & 9 drove my head in, I have no idea how someone else found them easy, Maybe cause I have lower tech levels. So a lot of this is also based off personal experience and my thoughts. I'm at 5-6-5-2-1 having only just got to Arty 5. I will probably continue over the next few days and update my thoughts as I go along   ---- This mode is closest to I guess United Front in you have to make use of a certain amount of Units but you don't get to choose them. You could have a map where its only Navy Ships, mostly Arty, mostly Tanks, mostly Infantry or a mixture of everything. There is a set-pool of maps for each level but the enemy units and generals are randomized as far as I could tell. Sometimes your units also gets randomized. If you lose a mission, you lose about half of the points you get from winning I think. I lost only a few times so I don't quite remember, someone can correct me on this. You get more and more generals to use as you level up, and you can use both Axis & Allied ones, starting from 3 at the start to 8 when you reach level 10. The enemy Tech level also increases from 0 to 6 when you hit level 9. All in all, you need 53 wins to reach level 10. I can make a list to correspond level with amount of generals/Tech Levels/Amount of Wins needed if people are interested. Also, sometimes you can play the same map a few times in a row. There are also a couple of maps where there is a minor bug and you need to actually capture every building instead of just annihilating the enemy. ---- My latest general rankings (For this mode) S Tier are the ones I would always tried to use. A Tier are the ones I would used occasionally depending on the map and the situation because of the role they play. B Tier are the ones you will probably use only if you have exhausted all other options but I never bothered with. Tank S Tier - Guderian / Rommel A Tier - Patton / Vatutin B Tier - Monty / Roko Arty S Tier - Leeb / Govorov A Tier - Badgolio / Chukov B Tier - Voronov Infantry S Tier - McArthur/Yamashita A+ Tier - Vasilevsky/Mannerheim A- Tier - Rundstedt B Tier - Slim Navy S Tier - Donitz A Tier - Nagumo/Nimtz B Tier - Mountbatten C Tier - Any other 3 Star Naval General. Also I don't think the aura stacks so if there are 2 boats Donitz and Nagumo pairs better than Donitz and Nimtz. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. Air Force (Carriers) S Tier - Yamamoto/Kesserling A Tier - Halsey B Tier - Dowding C Tier - Any other 3 Star Air Force General. Discuss & Also To Be Continued ... |
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Post by HangryBird on Apr 6, 2021 17:17:53 GMT
Amazing, I'd swap Nimitz and Nagumo's positions because Nagumo lacks an aura skill. Nimitz should belong in the same tier as Donitz because both have aura skills. So Nimitz would be S rank and Nagumo would be A rank. I would also swap Vasilevsky and Mannerheim's positions because usually there aren't a lot of buildings for Vasilevsky to take advantage of. Vasilevsky should belong in the same tier as Slim because both have skills that need buildings to be effective (Vasilevsky: Street fighting and Crowd tactics. Slim: Reserve.) . So Mannerheim would be A rank and Vasilevsky would be B rank.
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Post by Amazing on Apr 6, 2021 17:35:45 GMT
How far have you played through the latest update/challenge @ HangryBird ? This Tier List is mostly specific to how useful I have found the generals throughout this Challenge. (And is also subjected to change as I progress) In some maps, there is only 1 Battleship for you to use, in that case Nagumo is clearly the best choice. Between Donitz and Nimitz, you would always choose Donitz cause he is better and because the auras don't stack, your first two choices for certain Land + Navy missions are clearly going to be Donitz and Nimitz. As for Vasilevsky and Mannerheim, for missions with any form of cities, Vasilevsky is soooo OP for this mode its not even funny. In fact, if it wasn't for Ace Forces, he would easily be S Tier. Unfortunately, there are also maps with NO cities what so ever and so I think A Tier is a suitable rank for him. For the mostly Infantry Maps, I would really only consider Yamnashita/MacArthur/Runds/Vasilevsky. |
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Post by HangryBird on Apr 6, 2021 18:08:26 GMT
How far have you played through the latest update/challenge @ HangryBird ? This Tier List is mostly specific to how useful I have found the generals throughout this Challenge. (And is also subjected to change as I progress) In some maps, there is only 1 Battleship for you to use, in that case Nagumo is clearly the best choice. Between Donitz and Nimitz, you would always choose Donitz cause he is better and because the auras don't stack, your first two choices for certain Land + Navy missions are clearly going to be Donitz and Nimitz. As for Vasilevsky and Mannerheim, for missions with any form of cities, Vasilevsky is soooo OP for this mode its not even funny. In fact, if it wasn't for Ace Forces, he would easily be S Tier. Unfortunately, there are also maps with NO cities what so ever and so I think A Tier is a suitable rank for him. For the mostly Infantry Maps, I would really only consider Yamnashita/MacArthur/Runds/Vasilevsky. Even if there is only one battleship, Donitz and Nimitz still outperform Nagumo on it because aura's buff applies to the unit itself as well. Even if auras don't stack, more aura is better than less aura because of the self-buffs. Yeah, Vasilevsky is very good when you can take a city. I also devalued Vasilevsky to account for the maps with 1 or no buildings, but I have been encountering these types of maps much more than maps with 1 city. That's why I devalued him to B rank instead of A. |
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Post by Amazing on Apr 6, 2021 18:19:04 GMT
How far have you played through the latest update/challenge @ HangryBird ? This Tier List is mostly specific to how useful I have found the generals throughout this Challenge. (And is also subjected to change as I progress) In some maps, there is only 1 Battleship for you to use, in that case Nagumo is clearly the best choice. Between Donitz and Nimitz, you would always choose Donitz cause he is better and because the auras don't stack, your first two choices for certain Land + Navy missions are clearly going to be Donitz and Nimitz. As for Vasilevsky and Mannerheim, for missions with any form of cities, Vasilevsky is soooo OP for this mode its not even funny. In fact, if it wasn't for Ace Forces, he would easily be S Tier. Unfortunately, there are also maps with NO cities what so ever and so I think A Tier is a suitable rank for him. For the mostly Infantry Maps, I would really only consider Yamnashita/MacArthur/Runds/Vasilevsky. Even if there is only one battleship, Donitz and Nimitz still outperform Nagumo on it because aura's buff applies to the unit itself as well. Even if auras don't stack, more aura is better than less aura because of the self-buffs. Yeah, Vasilevsky is very good when you can take a city. I also devalued Vasilevsky to account for the maps with 1 or no buildings, but I have been encountering these types of maps much more than maps with 1 city. That's why I devalued him to B rank instead of A. I took your point and moved Nagumo down to A Tier. In fact Donitz is the best overall to use. Also, my valuation of Vasilevsky is as such, in any map with a city I would use him. I would never use Slim as I would pick Yamashita and/or MacArthur ahead of him. Thus my rankings. PS. Can you get to lvl 10 and tell me how to win it |
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Post by HangryBird on Apr 6, 2021 18:34:27 GMT
Even if there is only one battleship, Donitz and Nimitz still outperform Nagumo on it because aura's buff applies to the unit itself as well. Even if auras don't stack, more aura is better than less aura because of the self-buffs. Yeah, Vasilevsky is very good when you can take a city. I also devalued Vasilevsky to account for the maps with 1 or no buildings, but I have been encountering these types of maps much more than maps with 1 city. That's why I devalued him to B rank instead of A. I took your point and moved Nagumo down to A Tier. In fact Donitz is the best overall to use. Also, my valuation of Vasilevsky is as such, in any map with a city I would use him. I would never use Slim as I would pick Yamashita and/or MacArthur ahead of him. Thus my rankings. PS. Can you get to lvl 10 and tell me how to win it Yeah, that makes sense. Vasilevsky is usable in some circumstances, while Slim/Mannerheim wouldn't be used over MacArthur/Rundstedt/Yamashita. |
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Post by Don Quixote de la Mancha on Apr 7, 2021 2:29:08 GMT
Amazing, I'd swap Mannerheim and Rundstedt because Mannerheim is excellent at dealing INSANE amounts of dmg, where as Rundstedt would be struggling to join the fight. Not only that but you can pair him with special untis that will (if well used) almost double his output and this is without taking in consideration the fact that most of the enemy troops will have a SP so he gets more dmg %. Mannerheim is one of the best gens for this mode
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Post by Amazing on Apr 7, 2021 8:27:55 GMT
Amazing , I'd swap Mannerheim and Rundstedt because Mannerheim is excellent at dealing INSANE amounts of dmg, where as Rundstedt would be struggling to join the fight. Not only that but you can pair him with special untis that will (if well used) almost double his output and this is without taking in consideration the fact that most of the enemy troops will have a SP so he gets more dmg %. Mannerheim is one of the best gens for this mode I think Mannerheim is more situation than Vasilevsky but I agree with your point, he is really good in the Infantry matchups. Its close between the 3 imo so I'll list them as A+ and A-. |
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Post by irvin on Apr 7, 2021 9:00:31 GMT
Who has managed to get to level 10?
Nice to have Rommel on KV-6 here
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Post by Amazing on Apr 7, 2021 13:06:42 GMT
Who has managed to get to level 10? Nice to have Rommel on KV-6 here I was at lvl 10 yesterday already before giving up. See the screenshot  Might hit lvl 11 today if I get lucky, I'm like 3/4 the way through but need a bunch of luck. |
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Post by irvin on Apr 7, 2021 13:42:14 GMT
Just reached lvl 10
Luck is very much needed , especially with artillery leader on katyusha with Govorov
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Post by stoic on Apr 7, 2021 16:47:56 GMT
I really hope that they will add a new content eventually. So far I have an unavoidable feeling that someone is trying to sell me good old Invasions of EW5 and WC4 days  |
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Post by HangryBird on Apr 7, 2021 17:33:30 GMT
I really hope that they will add a new content eventually. So far I have an unavoidable feeling that someone is trying to sell me good old Invasions of EW5 and WC4 days I think the game will be complete when they add more army groups and conquests. |
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Post by irvin on Apr 7, 2021 20:17:32 GMT
WC4 one love |
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Post by faxe on Apr 10, 2021 8:26:27 GMT
If you loose a battle, your points will decline. If you win again at easier level, you still get rewards? You can farm resources for Promotion even if your tech is low?
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