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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2021 15:24:02 GMT
Funny that most of my friends who are interested in WW2 believe Model is severely overrated. As the only Axis tank general who had some success at Kursk, even when Bagramyan intercepted him, he is fairly underrated. Manstein? |
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Post by STILETT0 on Apr 19, 2021 15:25:18 GMT
As the only Axis tank general who had some success at Kursk, even when Bagramyan intercepted him, he is fairly underrated. Manstein? Manstein had no hand in Kursk. It was Hoth, Model, and Kluge the whole way through. I was referring to Model. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2021 15:26:08 GMT
Manstein had no hand in Kursk. It was Hoth, Model, and Kluge the whole way through. I was referring to Model. He was the one to suggest the plan and he led the Southern pincer. |
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Post by STILETT0 on Apr 19, 2021 15:28:37 GMT
Manstein had no hand in Kursk. It was Hoth, Model, and Kluge the whole way through. I was referring to Model. He was the one to suggest the plan and he led the Southern pincer. Hoth led the southern pincer directly. He suggested it, and proposed that the southern pincer goes this way. Bagramyan was the one who sniffed out the German plan, and told Sokolovsky. He then stopped the northern pincer |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2021 15:35:37 GMT
He was the one to suggest the plan and he led the Southern pincer. Hoth led the southern pincer directly. He suggested it, and proposed that the southern pincer goes this way. Bagramyan was the one who sniffed out the German plan, and told Sokolovsky. He then stopped the northern pincer Have you taken drugs? Show me one source, even Wikipedia will be ok. |
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Post by STILETT0 on Apr 19, 2021 15:54:02 GMT
Hoth led the southern pincer directly. He suggested it, and proposed that the southern pincer goes this way. Bagramyan was the one who sniffed out the German plan, and told Sokolovsky. He then stopped the northern pincer Have you taken drugs? Show me one source, even Wikipedia will be ok. It's one of my books....Manstein suggested Kursk, yes, but even then it was obvious |
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Post by STILETT0 on Apr 19, 2021 16:10:26 GMT
Hoth led the southern pincer directly. He suggested it, and proposed that the southern pincer goes this way. Bagramyan was the one who sniffed out the German plan, and told Sokolovsky. He then stopped the northern pincer Have you taken drugs? Show me one source, even Wikipedia will be ok. OK, I wasn't really paying attention. Yes, Manstein suggested it, and he did lead the southern prong, but Hoth was to take direct control over the forces that were in the heaviest fighting |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Apr 19, 2021 16:33:41 GMT
Funny that most of my friends who are interested in WW2 believe Model is severely overrated. As the only Axis tank general who had some success at Kursk, even when Bagramyan intercepted him, he is fairly underrated. I went over their comments again. They call him overrated mainly because he is only a defender that didn't really stand out among the likes of Reinhardt, Heinrici, etc. Of course he is a good defender, but when Kleist and Heinrici are ranked so low by easytech, Model doesn't really deserve what easytech gave him. |
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Post by STILETT0 on Apr 19, 2021 19:14:40 GMT
As the only Axis tank general who had some success at Kursk, even when Bagramyan intercepted him, he is fairly underrated. I went over their comments again. They call him overrated mainly because he is only a defender that didn't really stand out among the likes of Reinhardt, Heinrici, etc. Of course he is a good defender, but when Kleist and Heinrici are ranked so low by easytech, Model doesn't really deserve what easytech gave him. Thank you for reminding us of Kleist. EasyTech's pictures makes him look like he's just chugged an entire bottle of Sam Adamd |
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