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Post by STILETT0 on Apr 23, 2021 16:23:46 GMT
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Post by STILETT0 on Apr 23, 2021 20:20:08 GMT
my version of Early 1941. Gray is neutral German Army Group North: Leeb, Bock, Hoth German Army Group Centre: Guderian, Kluge, Brauchitsch German Army Group South: Paulus, Manstein, Rundstedt German Army Group B: Kuchler, Donitz, Goering German Army Group A: Meyer, Raeder, Kesselring German Army Group C: Student, Weichs, Kleist, List Vichy Army: Gamelin, Petain, Darlan Hungarian Army Group: Horthy, why Horthy? Yugoslav Army Group: Tito, Petrovic, Dusan, Peter II Bulgarian Army Group: Boris III Italian Army Group Adriatic: Cavallero, Campioni, Riccardi, Balbo Italian Army Group Alpine: Messe, Graziani, Badoglio, Ambrosio Greek Army Group: Blamey (yes, I know he's Australian), Papagos British First Army: Dowding, Portal, Pound, Wavell British Expeditionary Force: Alexander, Cunningham, Montgomery, Wingate Soviet Fourth Army: Meretskov, Govorov, Voroshilov, Novikov, Vasilevsky Soviet Belorussian Army: Zhukov, Timoshenko, Koniev, Sokolovsky, Vatutin Soviet Ukranian Army: Budyonny, Bagramyan, Voronov, Malinovsky, Chuikov
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Post by STILETT0 on Apr 23, 2021 20:21:41 GMT
In a perfect game, O'Connor, Wilson, and Freyberg would all be purchasable generals. Sadly, this is not a perfect game
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Post by HangryBird on Apr 23, 2021 20:49:09 GMT
STILETT0 , I'm afraid this map has more problems than the last one. 1. Spain should have the Balearics, the Soviets should have Lithuania and more of Poland, Hungary should have Transylvania, Switzerland should have Valais, Ticino, and Grisons, Ireland should be independent and neutral, Finland should be in the Axis, Slovakia should be playable and in the Axis, and Vichy should be neutral. 2. Vichy is a mostly blocked army group, the only enemy they can attack are the British in the Balearics 3. Too many generals, army groups should start with 3 at max 4. Some generals are in the wrong places. Bock and Hoth were in Center, Kuchler was in North, Gamelin never held a position in any military after the fall of France, Badoglio and Messe were in Adriatic, Wavell was in expeditionary, Meyer was in C and South 5. Either get rid of Expeditionary Army Group or expand the map into North Africa. 6. Bulgaria has too little territory; too much of it went to German C
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Post by zink on Apr 23, 2021 21:06:57 GMT
What about one without China, cuz you know
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Post by Thortilla on Apr 23, 2021 21:24:55 GMT
Where is my Australia?
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Post by STILETT0 on Apr 23, 2021 21:27:40 GMT
STILETT0 , I'm afraid this map has more problems than the last one. 1. Spain should have the Balearics, the Soviets should have Lithuania and more of Poland, Hungary should have Transylvania, Switzerland should have Valais, Ticino, and Grisons, Ireland should be independent and neutral, Finland should be in the Axis, Slovakia should be playable and in the Axis, and Vichy should be neutral. 2. Vichy is a mostly blocked army group, the only enemy they can attack are the British in the Balearics 3. Too many generals, army groups should start with 3 at max 4. Some generals are in the wrong places. Bock and Hoth were in Center, Kuchler was in North, Gamelin never held a position in any military after the fall of France, Badoglio and Messe were in Adriatic, Wavell was in expeditionary, Meyer was in C and South 5. Either get rid of Expeditionary Army Group or expand the map into North Africa. 6. Bulgaria has too little territory; too much of it went to German C 1: OK, I'll agree on that. 4: Hoth And Bock were originally assigned to Army Group North, but they were quickly reassigned to Army Group Center to clean up the countless encirclements Guderian had made on his famous drive to Smolensk. I will agree on Kuchler. I would like to have equal generals for countries of the same difficulty. Gamelin was a hard decision. Petain didn't exist in this game, and Laval was more of a man of politics than a general. I would like to have done Tassigny, but he is too affiliated with the Free French. 3: Yes, lots of generals, but this is "Glory Of Generals," correct? 5: too lazy to isolate the entirety of Europe for and African front. This is more of a ten-minute hobby. 6: The borders would look hella ugly if I didn't give C the entirety of Southern Bulgaria. It is supposed to represent one of the most large-scale German pincer movements before Barbarossa, Strafgericht ended with barely 1,000 German casualties.
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Post by HangryBird on Apr 23, 2021 22:03:04 GMT
STILETT0 , I'm afraid this map has more problems than the last one. 1. Spain should have the Balearics, the Soviets should have Lithuania and more of Poland, Hungary should have Transylvania, Switzerland should have Valais, Ticino, and Grisons, Ireland should be independent and neutral, Finland should be in the Axis, Slovakia should be playable and in the Axis, and Vichy should be neutral. 2. Vichy is a mostly blocked army group, the only enemy they can attack are the British in the Balearics 3. Too many generals, army groups should start with 3 at max 4. Some generals are in the wrong places. Bock and Hoth were in Center, Kuchler was in North, Gamelin never held a position in any military after the fall of France, Badoglio and Messe were in Adriatic, Wavell was in expeditionary, Meyer was in C and South 5. Either get rid of Expeditionary Army Group or expand the map into North Africa. 6. Bulgaria has too little territory; too much of it went to German C 1: OK, I'll agree on that. 4: Hoth And Bock were originally assigned to Army Group North, but they were quickly reassigned to Army Group Center to clean up the countless encirclements Guderian had made on his famous drive to Smolensk. I will agree on Kuchler. I would like to have equal generals for countries of the same difficulty. Gamelin was a hard decision. Petain didn't exist in this game, and Laval was more of a man of politics than a general. I would like to have done Tassigny, but he is too affiliated with the Free French. 3: Yes, lots of generals, but this is "Glory Of Generals," correct? 5: too lazy to isolate the entirety of Europe for and African front. This is more of a ten-minute hobby. 6: The borders would look hella ugly if I didn't give C the entirety of Southern Bulgaria. It is supposed to represent one of the most large-scale German pincer movements before Barbarossa, Strafgericht ended with barely 1,000 German casualties. 3. Too much of a good thing is a bad thing. Having too many starting generals over-saturates the battlefield. It's why the AI can deploy generals later. Compare the amount of starting generals in GOG3 army group vs conquest in other easytech games. You'll find that when you add up the generals for each country, you'll have similar amounts. 4. No, Bock was the commander of Army Group Center. You have the order wrong for Hoth: he was in Army Group Center before being redirected to North. If you want to have equal generals for countries of the same difficulty, you can simply use generals that aren't in the game. I would personally stick to just the generals in the game, but it's your idea. 5. No offense, but I typically expect more effort from things like this. 6. Bulgaria needs to have an economy and C having the entirety of Southern Bulgaria looks just as ugly as giving it only one territory.
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Post by Pietro Badoglio on Apr 24, 2021 1:00:26 GMT
On which side will be the French , also they should get a option to surrender. Xinchuang? TBH, Soviets and Mongolia didn't do anything, so they should be neutral. Also you should add a British Burma Army Group with Wavell and Alexander. Where are Manchukou(the submissive manliest) and Nanking Government. Also what is Bose doing in the Royal Army, replace that thing with Mountbatten. First, Liang Xinchuang is a prominent PRC general but is sidelined by Zhu De and Peng Dehuai quite a bit. The French are on the Allied side. This is in 1940, just before the French surrender. The USA should be programmed not to move out of their home territories until like turn 20. There was still the Khalkin-Gol incident, and the Soviets were officially at war with Japan, even after signing a 5 year non-aggression pact. Their troops will be sparse, anyway, and they won't have factories. The East Asian Imperial Forces represent the slightly autonomous regions and puppets of Japan. The Nanking Government is the first KMT Army Group. Putting all the warlords in there would be too much of a headache. This is before Bose defects First KMT group is on Japanese side?
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Post by STILETT0 on Apr 24, 2021 14:12:03 GMT
First, Liang Xinchuang is a prominent PRC general but is sidelined by Zhu De and Peng Dehuai quite a bit. The French are on the Allied side. This is in 1940, just before the French surrender. The USA should be programmed not to move out of their home territories until like turn 20. There was still the Khalkin-Gol incident, and the Soviets were officially at war with Japan, even after signing a 5 year non-aggression pact. Their troops will be sparse, anyway, and they won't have factories. The East Asian Imperial Forces represent the slightly autonomous regions and puppets of Japan. The Nanking Government is the first KMT Army Group. Putting all the warlords in there would be too much of a headache. This is before Bose defects First KMT group is on Japanese side? no.
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Post by Pietro Badoglio on Apr 24, 2021 16:13:56 GMT
First KMT group is on Japanese side? no. Then why did you say it is Nanking Government?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2021 16:46:55 GMT
On which side will be the French , also they should get a option to surrender. Xinchuang? TBH, Soviets and Mongolia didn't do anything, so they should be neutral. Also you should add a British Burma Army Group with Wavell and Alexander. Where are Manchukou(the submissive manliest) and Nanking Government. Also what is Bose doing in the Royal Army, replace that thing with Mountbatten. First, Liang Xinchuang is a prominent PRC general but is sidelined by Zhu De and Peng Dehuai quite a bit. The French are on the Allied side. This is in 1940, just before the French surrender. The USA should be programmed not to move out of their home territories until like turn 20. There was still the Khalkin-Gol incident, and the Soviets were officially at war with Japan, even after signing a 5 year non-aggression pact. Their troops will be sparse, anyway, and they won't have factories. The East Asian Imperial Forces represent the slightly autonomous regions and puppets of Japan. The Nanking Government is the first KMT Army Group. Putting all the warlords in there would be too much of a headache. This is before Bose defects What do you mean by Bose defected?
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Post by STILETT0 on Apr 24, 2021 16:48:18 GMT
Then why did you say it is Nanking Government? the KMT Nanking region. Y'know, the people who thought it would be a good idea to flood the Yellow River Valley?
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Post by STILETT0 on Apr 24, 2021 16:49:12 GMT
First, Liang Xinchuang is a prominent PRC general but is sidelined by Zhu De and Peng Dehuai quite a bit. The French are on the Allied side. This is in 1940, just before the French surrender. The USA should be programmed not to move out of their home territories until like turn 20. There was still the Khalkin-Gol incident, and the Soviets were officially at war with Japan, even after signing a 5 year non-aggression pact. Their troops will be sparse, anyway, and they won't have factories. The East Asian Imperial Forces represent the slightly autonomous regions and puppets of Japan. The Nanking Government is the first KMT Army Group. Putting all the warlords in there would be too much of a headache. This is before Bose defects What do you mean by Bose defected? He was part of the RIA, until later in the war when he saw this as a golden opportunity to get India their much wanted independence.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2021 16:49:29 GMT
Then why did you say it is Nanking Government? the KMT Nanking region. Y'know, the people who thought it would be a good idea to flood the Yellow River Valley? Nanking Government was the collaborationist government led by a KMT defector.
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