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Post by dagonithtr on May 4, 2021 11:47:21 GMT
what is the strongest comp? i want to argue about that topic
and yes my answer would be infantry
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 4, 2021 12:13:47 GMT
Hear! Hear!
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Post by Iron Duke on May 4, 2021 12:20:40 GMT
what is the strongest comp? i want to argue about that topic and yes my answer would be infantry InfCom is the strongest for taking punishment but not for dishing it out. |
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Post by dagonithtr on May 4, 2021 14:07:58 GMT
with paladin/titan (20 initial rage, +%20 rage regen) set you can get "permanent" commander skill -aura buff-
as i newly discovered they refill their rage bar in 3 turns -just attacking thing is enough not necessary to kill-
pretty unique though i dont think any other class has that "permanent aura" thing -maybe for cav but they have to kill things which is additional condition to get-
team like that;
barbarossa equipped paladin/titan set(commander skill, leadership -best debuff -, large hp pool, samurai also count as sustain i guess)
petain equipped paladin/titan set (commander skill, logistics for sustain, large hp pool because of marshal, cover which is crucial against all especially archers, bravery is also better than march)
caesar (cure master for all durability, braveness nice to deal "free" damage, assault, armor crucial against archers)
richard (logistics, rumor, mass fire is more effective while your attack is higher, armor)
peter (commander skill, rumor, destroy, peter is weak point of that comp because he is pretty fragile)
nobunaga (debuff, mass fire good for average output from archers)
moctezuma (cure master again good for sustain for all, leadership)
bismarck (build smasher)
flex choices:
cleo (build smasher)
yi sun-sin (good vs archers, armor master sustain for all, debuff -bugle-)
any suggestions?
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 4, 2021 14:19:06 GMT
with paladin/titan (20 initial rage, +%20 rage regen) set you can get "permanent" commander skill -aura buff- as i newly discovered they refill their rage bar in 3 turns -just attacking thing is enough not necessary to kill- pretty unique though i dont think any other class has that "permanent aura" thing -maybe for cav but they have to kill things which is additional condition to get- team like that; barbarossa equipped paladin/titan set(commander skill, leadership -best debuff -, large hp pool, samurai also count as sustain i guess) petain equipped paladin/titan set (commander skill, logistics for sustain, large hp pool because of marshal, cover which is crucial against all especially archers, bravery is also better than march) caesar (cure master for all durability, braveness nice to deal "free" damage, assault, armor crucial against archers) richard (logistics, rumor, mass fire is more effective while your attack is higher, armor) peter (commander skill, rumor, destroy, peter is weak point of that comp because he is pretty fragile) nobunaga (debuff, mass fire good for average output from archers) moctezuma (cure master again good for sustain for all, leadership) bismarck (build smasher) flex choices: cleo (build smasher) yi sun-sin (good vs archers, armor master sustain for all, debuff -bugle-) any suggestions? WIth the new "Awakening" Mulan might be better than Mocte, and Pachacuti Might be better than Nobby. Alex is a possible replacement for Richard. |
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Post by dagonithtr on May 4, 2021 14:32:25 GMT
with paladin/titan (20 initial rage, +%20 rage regen) set you can get "permanent" commander skill -aura buff- as i newly discovered they refill their rage bar in 3 turns -just attacking thing is enough not necessary to kill- pretty unique though i dont think any other class has that "permanent aura" thing -maybe for cav but they have to kill things which is additional condition to get- team like that; barbarossa equipped paladin/titan set(commander skill, leadership -best debuff -, large hp pool, samurai also count as sustain i guess) petain equipped paladin/titan set (commander skill, logistics for sustain, large hp pool because of marshal, cover which is crucial against all especially archers, bravery is also better than march) caesar (cure master for all durability, braveness nice to deal "free" damage, assault, armor crucial against archers) richard (logistics, rumor, mass fire is more effective while your attack is higher, armor) peter (commander skill, rumor, destroy, peter is weak point of that comp because he is pretty fragile) nobunaga (debuff, mass fire good for average output from archers) moctezuma (cure master again good for sustain for all, leadership) bismarck (build smasher) flex choices: cleo (build smasher) yi sun-sin (good vs archers, armor master sustain for all, debuff -bugle-) any suggestions? WIth the new "Awakening" Mulan might be better than Mocte, and Pachacuti Might be better than Nobby. Alex is a possible replacement for Richard. archers primary objective is just supporting infantries not dealing damage, richards mass fire is better while you have 2 buffs -offer more than alex, like rumor and logistics- also damage reduction against archers is crucial because nearly all of our gens are melee fighters as i tested "spy" not as effective as it tought before triggered "spy" i deal 1k damage with my washington after deal 1.1k damage or so and this difference lower while your damage is lower |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 4, 2021 14:36:41 GMT
WIth the new "Awakening" Mulan might be better than Mocte, and Pachacuti Might be better than Nobby. Alex is a possible replacement for Richard. archers primary objective is just supporting infantries not dealing damage, richards mass fire is better while you have 2 buffs -offer more than alex, like rumor and logistics- also damage reduction against archers is crucial because nearly all of our gens are melee fighters as i tested "spy" not as effective as it tought before triggered "spy" i deal 1k damage with my washington after deal 1.1k damage or so and this difference lower while your damage is lower However, I like RIchard more than Alex, but I have very lmited medals after upgrading Caesar and Barb, and buying Peter, so I can't afford Richard. Alex I get for free, and I upgraded him to 4 stars by now. |
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Post by dagonithtr on May 4, 2021 14:45:03 GMT
archers primary objective is just supporting infantries not dealing damage, richards mass fire is better while you have 2 buffs -offer more than alex, like rumor and logistics- also damage reduction against archers is crucial because nearly all of our gens are melee fighters as i tested "spy" not as effective as it tought before triggered "spy" i deal 1k damage with my washington after deal 1.1k damage or so and this difference lower while your damage is lower However, I like RIchard more than Alex, but I have very lmited medals after upgrading Caesar and Barb, and buying Peter, so I can't afford Richard. Alex I get for free, and I upgraded him to 4 stars by now. this is just dream team tough  i have almost none xD just try capture as much as city in empire mode, and rush "your" level my account is also pretty new almost 45 days-old but finished game already |
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Post by Iron Duke on May 4, 2021 19:44:54 GMT
with paladin/titan (20 initial rage, +%20 rage regen) set you can get "permanent" commander skill -aura buff- as i newly discovered they refill their rage bar in 3 turns -just attacking thing is enough not necessary to kill- pretty unique though i dont think any other class has that "permanent aura" thing -maybe for cav but they have to kill things which is additional condition to get- team like that; barbarossa equipped paladin/titan set(commander skill, leadership -best debuff -, large hp pool, samurai also count as sustain i guess) petain equipped paladin/titan set (commander skill, logistics for sustain, large hp pool because of marshal, cover which is crucial against all especially archers, bravery is also better than march) caesar (cure master for all durability, braveness nice to deal "free" damage, assault, armor crucial against archers) richard (logistics, rumor, mass fire is more effective while your attack is higher, armor) peter (commander skill, rumor, destroy, peter is weak point of that comp because he is pretty fragile) nobunaga (debuff, mass fire good for average output from archers) moctezuma (cure master again good for sustain for all, leadership) bismarck (build smasher) flex choices: cleo (build smasher) yi sun-sin (good vs archers, armor master sustain for all, debuff -bugle-) any suggestions? Almost the same as my InfCom team except for Petain & Bismarck in place of Xerxes & Khalid linkI'd recommend you choose one of Peter & Petain and give the other slot to either Nelson or a cav (Saladin) though as you rarely get to use the 3 commanders together in a meaningful way. Nelson would buff your archers or a cav would give you the chance to mop up the annoying enemies who survive with like 12 health, so you don't have to waste a heavy hitter on them. |
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Post by dagonithtr on May 4, 2021 20:07:27 GMT
with paladin/titan (20 initial rage, +%20 rage regen) set you can get "permanent" commander skill -aura buff- as i newly discovered they refill their rage bar in 3 turns -just attacking thing is enough not necessary to kill- pretty unique though i dont think any other class has that "permanent aura" thing -maybe for cav but they have to kill things which is additional condition to get- team like that; barbarossa equipped paladin/titan set(commander skill, leadership -best debuff -, large hp pool, samurai also count as sustain i guess) petain equipped paladin/titan set (commander skill, logistics for sustain, large hp pool because of marshal, cover which is crucial against all especially archers, bravery is also better than march) caesar (cure master for all durability, braveness nice to deal "free" damage, assault, armor crucial against archers) richard (logistics, rumor, mass fire is more effective while your attack is higher, armor) peter (commander skill, rumor, destroy, peter is weak point of that comp because he is pretty fragile) nobunaga (debuff, mass fire good for average output from archers) moctezuma (cure master again good for sustain for all, leadership) bismarck (build smasher) flex choices: cleo (build smasher) yi sun-sin (good vs archers, armor master sustain for all, debuff -bugle-) any suggestions? Almost the same as my InfCom team except for Petain & Bismarck in place of Xerxes & Khalid linkI'd recommend you choose one of Peter & Petain and give the other slot to either Nelson or a cav (Saladin) though as you rarely get to use the 3 commanders together in a meaningful way. Nelson would buff your archers or a cav would give you the chance to mop up the annoying enemies who survive with like 12 health, so you don't have to waste a heavy hitter on them. seems team has enough survivability dont have to attack that 12 health units -killing them by counterattack- so that would be solution? i understand your point but have enough priority to just that reason take up space, dont think so as i understand "buff skills" really shines while 2 or 3 commander using to explain with a simple example; nelsons archer commander buffs nobunaga's attack 900-950 to 1400~ (in that composition with himself buff 3 general) peters effect like barbarossa's base attack is 587 plus 200 from titan axe = 800~ by first buff 800 to 1200 by second 1200 to 1800 for third one 1800 to 2700 (with himself buff 5 general) its calculated separately its pretty old video -before infantries rage regen buff- and you didnt try paladin/titan hybrid set as you know blue gens %20 purple %25 gold %30 rage regen respectively i didnt mention caesar can refill his rage bar in 4 turn -without killing- if kills at least 1 unit can refill in 3 turns so he is also nearly permanent healer -pretty sure he can kill while activated 2 "permanent buffs", possible result counting as "permanent healer" |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 4, 2021 20:11:29 GMT
Nelson is Trash in InfCom!? He has ArtyCom and nothing else. Li Hongzhang is Better by far.
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Post by Iron Duke on May 5, 2021 7:58:36 GMT
Nelson is Trash in InfCom!? He has ArtyCom and nothing else. Li Hongzhang is Better by far. Nelson is never trash and was even considered essential for a while. He has better stats than Li and is easier to play with due to his Longbow. Li has Leadership and Strike, but in the proposed team above Mocte, Nobby & Barbarossa have Leadership already and Nobby can destroy anyone so the anti-cav bonus isn't a big loss. |
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