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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 5, 2021 13:18:03 GMT
So, this will be a groundbreaker in the steps of ArtyCom:
First, Complete Classical Campaigns.
Then Buy Khalid.
Upgrade to Medieval.
Buy Li Shimin.
Upgrade Khalid and Cleo to 2*s.
Upgrade Alex to 2*s.
Work on Empire.
Buy Richard.
That is all I have gotten so far.
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on May 15, 2021 14:11:31 GMT
stoic and Iron Duke, any comments? I believe someone had once attempted or considered an arty com run.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 17, 2021 19:58:59 GMT
Get Barb and Saladin. Upgrade Cleo, Khalid, Richard, Barb, Saladin, and Li Shimin (Alexander is optional) to three stars, and grind literature for Discovery. (optional: At that point, you should buy the tankiest general possible) Upgrade to four stars all your important gens. Then you will focus on upgrading ArtyCom. Grind for Gunpowder, and get Bismark. After that, work on upgrading ArtyCom, and then other skills. If you get to Industrial beforehand, get Heihachiro and upgrade your Gens to 6*s before you do anything else. Do not refrain from upgrading Bismark to 6 stars. I didn't use archers in this, because they are too frail to be used as a shield for my Arty Gens. With the non-artillery gens, tankiness>output. Here is who you should have in 4, 6, and 8 slots in the endgame. Cleo was primarily for the first 5 ages, but her Mobility was useful later on.
4: Khalid, Li Shimin/Heihachiro/Bismark, Barb, Richard
6: Khalid, Li Shimin/Bismark, Heihachiro, Barb, Richard, Saladin/Cleo
8: Khalid, Li Shimin, Bismark, Heihachiro, Barb, Saladin, Richard, Tanky/Cleo
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Post by Iron Duke on May 18, 2021 12:10:06 GMT
... Do not refrain from upgrading Bismark to 6 stars... Why? |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 18, 2021 12:17:42 GMT
... Do not refrain from upgrading Bismark to 6 stars... Why? Because he will do more damage, have more HP and Defense, and he will get a bonus damage against cavalry, which is useful as your main melee units will be infantry (meat walls to protect you artillery). |
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Post by Iron Duke on May 18, 2021 14:32:03 GMT
Because he will do more damage, have more HP and Defense, and he will get a bonus damage against cavalry, which is useful as your main melee units will be infantry (meat walls to protect you artillery). Makes sense I suppose if you intend to use him against cav rather than towers/walls. I'm not convinced your plan will work but I wish you well! |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 18, 2021 14:48:10 GMT
Because he will do more damage, have more HP and Defense, and he will get a bonus damage against cavalry, which is useful as your main melee units will be infantry (meat walls to protect you artillery). Makes sense I suppose if you intend to use him against cav rather than towers/walls. I'm not convinced your plan will work but I wish you well! This is much harder than my InfCom run, but I find it easier in the no-AI controlled missions. For the AI ones, It is practically useless, unfortunately. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 25, 2021 15:40:18 GMT
Some thoughts:
- Definitely harder than my InfCom run In one major aspect: the capturing of certain places. Those were near impossible. My number one pet peeve. Also, the AI uses gens like trash in Invasions and Arena. However, they were as good as heck in most Empire missions and Legend. In Campaign it was much harder on some (Joan of Arc), but much easier on some (Lexington Gunfire). The thing is, farming Literature in Conquest was Super Easy. Arty excels at that.
- If a unit is not Artillery, It needs to be as Tanky as can be. My non-Arties were Barb, Caesar, Richard, and Saladin. Barb essentially was Leadership and Wall, Caesar was Healing Aura and Wall, Saladin was Tank, and so was Richard, while he also had Rumor. I would have replaced Saladin With Blucher if he wasn't so expensive.
- All gens should have at least one aura skill or a debuff. Saladin is an exception. I kicked off Li Shimin later on in favor of surprisingly, Cleopatra. She was Amazing with Rumor and Mobility, a kind of Richard of Artillery: good when killing something, good when not. Li Shimin was an excellent solo player, but a trash team player. However, he is a necessity. Here's why: in the beginning, you only have Khalid, Cleo, and Columbus (maybe Koxinga). The latter two are most definitely not worth it, so you only have two men. However those two men really only star in the endgame, so at the beginning they are suboptimal. Enter Li Shimin. He conquers everything, but declines in value later.
- The MVP is Heihachiro. Nobody comes close. However, he is insanely expensive, and you should only get him after you have: Bought Li, Cleo, Khalid, Richard Barb, Saladin, other meat wall, Bismark, upgraded them to five stars, maxed out Artillery Commander on Khalid, Maxed out Caesar's Braveness if you get him, and upgraded them all to at least 4*s. That being said, after you get him, life becomes a breeze. You can finally get that Paladin ring! (I'm joking [no I'm not(yes, I am)]).
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 27, 2021 13:56:23 GMT
Anything you would like to mention, Iron Duke? |
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Post by Iron Duke on May 27, 2021 15:02:43 GMT
Anything you would like to mention, Iron Duke ? Honestly, I'm not sure.... Are you saying you've done it? If so how did you get from Medieval/Empire age (OP 5th May) to completing the game in 3 weeks? |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 27, 2021 15:19:43 GMT
Anything you would like to mention, Iron Duke ? Honestly, I'm not sure.... Are you saying you've done it? If so how did you get from Medieval/Empire age (OP 5th May) to completing the game in 3 weeks? No, I'm just in Gunpowder Age. Almost to Industrial (160 more Literature). This is theory mixed with experience. Some may change. The primary reason I was able to go so fast is spamming conquests. I poured my heart and soul into them, and they have rewarded me greatly. I am still on Empire Campaigns, TBH. |
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Post by Iron Duke on May 27, 2021 20:29:58 GMT
Honestly, I'm not sure.... Are you saying you've done it? If so how did you get from Medieval/Empire age (OP 5th May) to completing the game in 3 weeks? No, I'm just in Gunpowder Age. Almost to Industrial (160 more Literature). This is theory mixed with experience. Some may change. The primary reason I was able to go so fast is spamming conquests. I poured my heart and soul into them, and they have rewarded me greatly. I am still on Empire Campaigns, TBH. OK, now I can understand. What level are you at, how many cities do you have, what daily rewards are you getting, and which level conquests have you completed, and do you possess all of the generals that you mentioned/want? I'm curious to know how it compares to say 4 weeks progress in a more conventional run. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 27, 2021 20:49:33 GMT
No, I'm just in Gunpowder Age. Almost to Industrial (160 more Literature). This is theory mixed with experience. Some may change. The primary reason I was able to go so fast is spamming conquests. I poured my heart and soul into them, and they have rewarded me greatly. I am still on Empire Campaigns, TBH. OK, now I can understand. What level are you at, how many cities do you have, what daily rewards are you getting, and which level conquests have you completed, and do you possess all of the generals that you mentioned/want? I'm curious to know how it compares to say 4 weeks progress in a more conventional run. I have all but Heihachiro. I mostly do Discovery India and Classical Greece. I have done some Discovery China, but I barely get any Literature. I am at 167 cities and get 400 medals a day (20 Missions), and I get like 12 invasions, because battles are hard. I am at level 76, and have perfected the remainder of Empire and have gotten about halfway through Discovery. |
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Post by Iron Duke on May 28, 2021 12:53:14 GMT
OK, now I can understand. What level are you at, how many cities do you have, what daily rewards are you getting, and which level conquests have you completed, and do you possess all of the generals that you mentioned/want? I'm curious to know how it compares to say 4 weeks progress in a more conventional run. I have all but Heihachiro. I mostly do Discovery India and Classical Greece. I have done some Discovery China, but I barely get any Literature. I am at 167 cities and get 400 medals a day (20 Missions), and I get like 12 invasions, because battles are hard. I am at level 76, and have perfected the remainder of Empire and have gotten about halfway through Discovery. Seems like it's working out OK so far then, I do wonder how you'll get on in the Industrial campaigns and the harder Attack missions without any archers though. Do you have Mystletainn btw? |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 28, 2021 16:46:46 GMT
I have all but Heihachiro. I mostly do Discovery India and Classical Greece. I have done some Discovery China, but I barely get any Literature. I am at 167 cities and get 400 medals a day (20 Missions), and I get like 12 invasions, because battles are hard. I am at level 76, and have perfected the remainder of Empire and have gotten about halfway through Discovery. Seems like it's working out OK so far then, I do wonder how you'll get on in the Industrial campaigns and the harder Attack missions without any archers though. Do you have Mystletainn btw? Bismark is my Archer. Still working through the Discovery Campaigns, and in a last ditch Crash Course last night with 8 Greece Conquests, have unlocked Industrial! Bye, Li Shimin, hello Heihachiro. The medal grind is on! I have Mystletainn. Working on Greek 2. Right now my Main Lineup is Caesar lv. 5 with max Braveness and lv. 6 Cure Master, Bismark lv. 6 with Max Rumor for Anti-Cav, Barb 5 with Max Leadership, Khalid 5 with max Artillery Commander, Richard 5 with Max Rumor and Logistics, Li Shimin 5 unupgraded, and Saladin 5, unupgraded. Gonna replace Li Shimin, then Max out Heihachiro's Artillery Commander, then Upgrade the rest of my gens to Level 6. How does that sound? |
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