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Post by Warlord247 on May 22, 2021 6:42:06 GMT
Absolutely false! We were the ones who defeated the Nazis! Not only that, but many mass atrocities were committed in the act of colonialism! Name one that has happened under communism (think about the timeline, none have taken place yet.) I see this as political interference on the parts of John Marston and Louis XXIV. When the central powers were defeated in WW1 you levied many powers over them. We are not hyper inflating their currency, nor crippling their army as you did to Germany. We are simply giving political backing to a group we support. These are simply the facts. If you defeated Nazis do not means that you can install dictatorships in European states. We are not installing dictatorships, we have done less than what your alliance did at the end of WW1. |
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Post by Francisco Franco on May 22, 2021 6:43:22 GMT
Absolutely false! We were the ones who defeated the Nazis! Not only that, but many mass atrocities were committed in the act of colonialism! Name one that has happened under communism (think about the timeline, none have taken place yet.) I see this as political interference on the parts of John Marston and Louis XXIV. When the central powers were defeated in WW1 you levied many powers over them. We are not hyper inflating their currency, nor crippling their army as you did to Germany. We are simply giving political backing to a group we support. These are simply the facts. If you defeated Nazis do not means that you can install dictatorships in European states. Colonialism brought modern schools, Hostipitals and industries. The deaths die to diseases has happened even before Colonialism. Deaths due to diseases lessened in Colonialism. As of Germany, it was a treaty in which Germany was included and they had agreed to the terms. |
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Post by Francisco Franco on May 22, 2021 6:45:17 GMT
If you defeated Nazis do not means that you can install dictatorships in European states. We are not installing dictatorships, we have done less than what your alliance did at the end of WW1. Also Spain was not involved in war of 1914 to 1918. Treaty of Brest litovsk was more bad and your allies accepted it. |
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Post by STILETT0 on May 22, 2021 14:15:33 GMT
Communism=Nazism= Misery and Sufferings Colonialism= peace and Prosperity= Free market what do you have to say for the brutal possession of Zulu territory, Rhodesia, and the hell that was Belgian Congo? |
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Post by Pietro Badoglio on May 22, 2021 15:09:14 GMT
Communism=Nazism= Misery and Sufferings Colonialism= peace and Prosperity= Free market what do you have to say for the brutal possession of Zulu territory, Rhodesia, and the hell that was Belgian Congo? Rhodesia was given option to join South Africa, but they refused and suffered because they were unproductive and Britain invested way more than it produced, but communists will still say Britain murdered the citizens of its colonies. As of Belgium, they are neutral hence we are not responsible for anything they do. |
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Post by STILETT0 on May 22, 2021 15:57:16 GMT
what do you have to say for the brutal possession of Zulu territory, Rhodesia, and the hell that was Belgian Congo? Rhodesia was given option to join South Africa, but they refused and suffered because they were unproductive and Britain invested way more than it produced, but communists will still say Britain murdered the citizens of its colonies. As of Belgium, they are neutral hence we are not responsible for anything they do. it was not just Rhodesia! What about how you swindled Arabia of its independence in 1919? Or your brutal suppression of Indian demonstrators? It is not just communitsts saying that the worst thing that happened to Africa was colonization, either! The two-headed eagle of Albania shuns both the proxyism and Wilsonianism of The West, and the Communism of the East! |
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Post by Pietro Badoglio on May 22, 2021 16:03:03 GMT
Rhodesia was given option to join South Africa, but they refused and suffered because they were unproductive and Britain invested way more than it produced, but communists will still say Britain murdered the citizens of its colonies. As of Belgium, they are neutral hence we are not responsible for anything they do. it was not just Rhodesia! What about how you swindled Arabia of its independence in 1919? Or your brutal suppression of Indian demonstrators? It is not just communitsts saying that the worst thing that happened to Africa was colonization, either! The two-headed eagle of Albania shuns both the proxyism and Wilsonianism of The West, and the Communism of the East! Didn't Nejd, Saudi Arabia and Iraq become independent. We honoured Iran's sovereignty after ww2, Soviets didn't. We didn't suppressed the demonstrators brutally anywhere, if we would have suppressed brutally none of them would have lasted more than a month, they continued for years but they were incompetent and they demanded more than their capabilities, so we tried to negotiate but they were too arrogant. Albania is also communist. |
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Post by Warlord247 on May 22, 2021 16:05:26 GMT
I consider the allegations from John Marston and Francisco Franco to be contradictions of past decisions made by their governments, which actively TOOK freedom from their colonies. And that's not even to mention the mass genocide of natives in America, Canada, Australia, and more! Under British rule, and once they became independent! Providing support to a political party is completely ethical. Much more ethical than what y'all have done to other countries. |
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Post by STILETT0 on May 22, 2021 16:08:32 GMT
it was not just Rhodesia! What about how you swindled Arabia of its independence in 1919? Or your brutal suppression of Indian demonstrators? It is not just communitsts saying that the worst thing that happened to Africa was colonization, either! The two-headed eagle of Albania shuns both the proxyism and Wilsonianism of The West, and the Communism of the East! Didn't Nejd, Saudi Arabia and Iraq become independent. We honoured Iran's sovereignty after ww2, Soviets didn't. We didn't suppressed the demonstrators brutally anywhere, if we would have suppressed brutally none of them would have lasted more than a month, they continued for years but they were incompetent and they demanded more than their capabilities, so we tried to negotiate but they were too arrogant. Albania is also communist. that's like saying Yugoslavia was an enthusiastic member of the Eastern Bloc. |
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Post by Pietro Badoglio on May 22, 2021 16:10:33 GMT
Didn't Nejd, Saudi Arabia and Iraq become independent. We honoured Iran's sovereignty after ww2, Soviets didn't. We didn't suppressed the demonstrators brutally anywhere, if we would have suppressed brutally none of them would have lasted more than a month, they continued for years but they were incompetent and they demanded more than their capabilities, so we tried to negotiate but they were too arrogant. Albania is also communist. that's like saying Yugoslavia was an enthusiastic member of the Eastern Bloc. That's like saying Yugoslavia wasn't a communist dictatorship |
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Post by Pietro Badoglio on May 22, 2021 16:12:03 GMT
I consider the allegations from John Marston and Francisco Franco to be contradictions of past decisions made by their governments, which actively TOOK freedom from their colonies. And that's not even to mention the mass genocide of natives in America, Canada, Australia, and more! Under British rule, and once they became independent! Providing support to a political party is completely ethical. Much more ethical than what y'all have done to other countries. Colonial citizens were more happy under our rule than their previous native rule. The modern day states are based on our principles and political system. |
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Post by STILETT0 on May 22, 2021 16:15:03 GMT
that's like saying Yugoslavia was an enthusiastic member of the Eastern Bloc. That's like saying Yugoslavia wasn't a communist dictatorship That's like comparing Yugoslavia to Byelorussian SFSR |
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Post by Pietro Badoglio on May 22, 2021 16:17:11 GMT
That's like saying Yugoslavia wasn't a communist dictatorship That's like comparing Yugoslavia to Byelorussian SFSR But Yugoslavia was a communist dictatorship like Cuba |
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Post by Warlord247 on May 22, 2021 16:17:46 GMT
I consider the allegations from John Marston and Francisco Franco to be contradictions of past decisions made by their governments, which actively TOOK freedom from their colonies. And that's not even to mention the mass genocide of natives in America, Canada, Australia, and more! Under British rule, and once they became independent! Providing support to a political party is completely ethical. Much more ethical than what y'all have done to other countries. Colonial citizens were more happy under our rule than their previous native rule. The modern day states are based on our principles and political system. Not at all! Look at the consequences of the Berlin conference (held by my former ineffective government) you split the African lands into states, forcing together warring tribes and separating Allied tribes! Africa will take years to heal from this! And it was the ineffective system of colonialism and capitalism that brought this about. We have done nothing on your scale! We are simply backing a political party. Which you yourselves do! |
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Post by STILETT0 on May 22, 2021 16:19:53 GMT
That's like comparing Yugoslavia to Byelorussian SFSR But Yugoslavia was a communist dictatorship like Cuba I will not defend Yugoslavia's political system, but it does not mean that they were eagerly associated with the USSR. Kind of like Spain in the 1920's. |
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