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Post by General William T. Sherman on Feb 6, 2016 14:33:27 GMT
The choice between the Old England or the Arsenal of Democracy.
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Post by Moreau on Feb 6, 2016 15:20:26 GMT
Winston
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Post by Mountbatten on Feb 6, 2016 15:21:22 GMT
Winston because he let me run around blowing things up in my ship during WW2
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Post by Horatio Nelson on Feb 7, 2016 1:43:37 GMT
FDR was a hypocrite when it came to welfare. He also ordered the seizing of everyones gold.
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Post by Jean Lannes on Feb 7, 2016 5:30:57 GMT
Winston because he let me run around blowing things up in my ship during WW2 Until the Germans shot back a single round and your whole fleet went down. |
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Post by Jean Lannes on Feb 7, 2016 5:31:36 GMT
FDR was a hypocrite when it came to welfare. He also ordered the seizing of everyones gold. Don't forget what he did to the Japanese |
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Post by Jean Lannes on Feb 7, 2016 5:32:31 GMT
I don't like either too much tbh. Winston gave us Kurds to the Brits while FDR had something with Japanese internments. If I had to choose then FDR
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Post by Horatio Nelson on Feb 7, 2016 8:23:59 GMT
I don't like either too much tbh. Winston gave us Kurds to the Brits while FDR had something with Japanese internments. If I had to choose then FDR Which country does the soldier in your emblem serve? |
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Feb 7, 2016 11:50:47 GMT
I said FDR because while he didn't fully take our country out of the depression, he made it a hell of a lot more tolerable to live in with his New Deal. He also fought against segregation, one of the the first presidents to do so. He also wanted to see the US get involved in WWII to stop the Germans and Japanese.
His only flaw was that he interned Japanese Americans, and some Italian and German Americans as well (not nearly as much though).Yes, this is a major flaw.
But in my opinion, his pros outweigh the cons, but the fact that he interned Japanese Americans prevents him from being my favorite president.
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Feb 7, 2016 12:07:50 GMT
Definitely not Winston, he dragged all British Commonwealth nations into the war (yes, including British India) which did cause some "stuff" back in India.
FDR, well not really because of the Japanese-american interment camps....
So I'd just select none of them.
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Post by Moreau on Feb 7, 2016 15:01:04 GMT
I don't like either too much tbh. Winston gave us Kurds to the Brits while FDR had something with Japanese internments. If I had to choose then FDR Which country does the soldier in your emblem serve? Peshmerga? Jihadists? |
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Post by Horatio Nelson on Feb 7, 2016 15:05:49 GMT
Which country does the soldier in your emblem serve? Peshmerga? Jihadists? If you're right, then the mods need to take down cancer like that. If it's a joke than it's cool. |
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Post by Moreau on Feb 7, 2016 15:20:28 GMT
If you're right, then the mods need to take down cancer like that. If it's a joke than it's cool. Tbh idk just looks like it a bit |
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Post by Suvorov on Feb 7, 2016 20:05:11 GMT
FDR ofcourse! No really, Winston isn't all that good. He did keep the UK and the Commonwealth in the war, but he was just like FDR quite ineffective in making military decisions. Churchill wanted to attack the "soft underbelly" (or something like that) of Europe, all kinds of islands in the Meditteranean, even Norway (while there where 300000 German soldiers there). Basically anywhere except for Western Europe. We do have to thank him for delaying Operation Overlord untill 1944, when the American 8th Airforce and the British had finally achieved air supremacy over the Luftwaffe and had assembled enough Landing crafts.
Also, he knew that Stalin was not "Uncle Joe", unlike the quite naïve Roosevelt. But we do not have to forget that he was an imperialist ("I did not become prime minister to see the British Empire collapse") who haunted Brooke with vague military plans.
Roosevelt got the USA out of the depression and was very important in helping the UK, the USSR and China keep up the fight with the Lend-Lease program. While the USA was officialy neutral, he did anything but declare war on Nazi-Germany. He manipulated the press in order to prepare the USA for war and America basically became, as Sherman calls it, the "Arsenal of Democracy", that was willing to help the UK, which was really, really helpfull in winning the war.
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Feb 7, 2016 20:20:52 GMT
FDR was a decent naval tactician, as he was secratary of the navy during Wilson's administration, but he could never be an effective military commander in combat. And he must have known that because as I'm concerned be always left it to his military commanders (unless there was a case where he directly commanded troops in the war). Unlike Churchill where...well, Gallipoli.
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