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Post by Amatsukaze on May 21, 2016 6:05:46 GMT
List and bock are terrible, Vatutin+badoglio is AND cheaper AND more output AND more health Vatutin has incredibly low mobility and cannot move around towns very quickly whereas list and bock are fast though vatutin is dead slow I personally dislike vatutin. P.S vatutin is a mid game general and not for begginers .... Baa! No! Vatutin won't be on the list on mid game! That is Guderian and Govorov 0.0 |
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Post by NetherFreek on May 21, 2016 6:07:25 GMT
List looks strong, right? But you'll regret buying him, because the skills. He has the right skills, but only level one or two. These weak skills causes him has too low output, doesn't worth 1040 medals.
Bock doesnt have plain fighting, and a general without plain isnt worthwile to discuss. Furthermore he cost ~1700 medals, there are plenty 5 star generale like vatutin and govorov that costs a lesser amount of medals.
What do you mean vatutin a mid game general? He is a beginning general, same as badoglio
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Post by Comrade Willis on May 21, 2016 9:04:27 GMT
No no. No Meyer (Berlin military campaign) is a begginers general he is pretty cheap he comes at a low cost of about 400-600 medals I don't remember
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Post by NetherFreek on May 21, 2016 9:07:38 GMT
he costs 300 medals. the problem lies in his health and skills, for 100 medals more you have auchinleck (more health) and for 200 medals more you have crerar (skillfull guy)
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Post by Comrade Willis on May 21, 2016 9:09:34 GMT
Oh thanks for the suggestion but im tying to reset game and play from the beggining so I need to take note of your suggestions thanks again !
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Post by Hundu on May 21, 2016 9:15:51 GMT
I have badoglio, osawa, meyer
so in my case, is it better to buy vatutin now or go for govorov and get vatutin later? (maybe, get govorov, sell badoglio, get vatutin?) Or mby sell Meyer?
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Post by Comrade Willis on May 21, 2016 9:20:13 GMT
Get govorov mate sell Meyer and get vatutin as quick as possible he is awesome try to get an amazing air general like greim cheap and best and keep Ozawa until you have an opportunity to buy a better or a huge need for a better general good luck in your early stages of your game !!!......
Pls feel free to comment and suggest by quoting ..!
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Post by Amatsukaze on May 21, 2016 9:35:05 GMT
Get govorov mate sell Meyer and get vatutin as quick as possible he is awesome try to get an amazing air general like greim cheap and best and keep Ozawa until you have an opportunity to buy a better or a huge need for a better general good luck in your early stages of your game !!!...... Pls feel free to comment and suggest by quoting ..! Something to modify, as he got Ozawa, he currently doesn't need another air general, Ozawa is the one to do the job in the beginning. Other than Vatutin, if he trust himself he can also go directly to Guderian, like what I did OwO BTW, true that it is a wrong decision on getting Meyer on the beginning(urgh he actually sucks...), but as long as he got another 2 generals right he can continue the game, later when medal wonders are built the medals lost can be quickly recovered... but now I suggest DON'T MOVE MEYER BEFORE YOUR SLOTS ARE FULL JUST USE HIM WHEN YOU NEED HIM AND TEMPORARY CONTINUE HAVE HIM ON MISSIONS ah... why? Cus that's what I did!!! OWO  Though Meyer is wrong, Just continue, dude, I got my first 4 generals wrong, but I kept them until now QwQ |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on May 21, 2016 18:04:04 GMT
List and bock are terrible, Vatutin+badoglio is AND cheaper AND more output AND more health Vatutin has incredibly low mobility and cannot move around towns very quickly whereas list and bock are fast though vatutin is dead slow I personally dislike vatutin. P.S vatutin is a mid game general and not for begginers .... Vatutin is more like an early-game general. In my opinion: Before Guderian=early-game. Guderian-aliens=mid-game. After aliens=late-game. |
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Post by Comrade Willis on May 22, 2016 3:10:32 GMT
I restarted with a fresh HQ and making good progress (I guess) I bought Meyer as he is cheap and then I bought Ozawa now I'm aiming for carera because of his stronghold on desert fighting so I ll be getting him after that I ll try for bodalgio and vatutin later these will be the generals I ll start with !!
If you guys have any further advice or if you think the generals listed above are bad and I nee to hit for other gens instead of these , pls lemme now but quoting .
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Post by Amatsukaze on May 22, 2016 8:02:25 GMT
Vatutin is more like an early-game general. In my opinion: Before Guderian=early-game. Guderian-aliens=mid-game. After aliens=late-game. Alien conquests or missions OAO |
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Post by Comrade Willis on May 22, 2016 16:43:09 GMT
I made the slot fitting thread before, and now I am making the progress of buying general by the progress in game. Any suggestions are welcomed. Early Game:Start to save for 1210 immediately for Badoglio (Italy), then gain 550 for Ozawa (Japan), then save 3350 for Guderian (Germany). This is the easiest way. If you are confident enough, buy Govorov (Soviet Union) instead of Badoglio, or straight to Guderian. If you find it pretty hard for only 2 generals, try to get Vatutin (Soviet Union). p.s. There will be a surprising gift after you break through WTO/NATO 6! Mid Game:At the moment you get Guderian, you are in mid game now. Buy Govorov if you did not, and then Patton (US), Goring (Germany). Late Game:Now you have different choices. Now for the No.3 tank, if you don't have Vatutin, you can either buy Rommel (Germany) who is better at mobility and survivability, or Vatutin raised to L General who is cheaper and has better fire power. For No.3 artillery, you can either buy Konev (Soviet Union) who is hybrid artillery-infantry and has better output, or Bai C.X. (China) who has better mobility and survivalability, or even Badoglio if you appreciate his Explosives. Now start to build the first stage of eye covered artillery general with 3 star artillery&movement, M General, lvl 3 Plain Fighting, lvl 2 Artillery Barrage&Explosive. Say goodbye to Ozawa, and buy Yamamoto (Japan). You can promote Guderian and Govorov to Marshal and let Badoglio retire. If you did buy Bai C.X. or Badoglio, please buy Vasilevsky (Soviet Union) as an infantry general. End Game:Congratulations! You are finally in this stage now! The eye covered artillery can be at the last atep, with full stars, skills (add Ace Forces and Supply), and rank. Feel free to promote your generals or make eye covered tank(with Blitzkrieg+Tide of Iron+Explosive+Plain Fighting+Supply/lvl 3 Ace Forces)/artillery(change Ace Forces to Street Fighting if you want it conquest focused or Defense Tactic if you sre lucky/sl player). Feel free to comment, I'll edit it if necessary. For the ones who paid money for the 3 IAP generals:It is really not that necessary for buying Badoglio and Ozawa at the beginning, you can just go straight to Guderian(if you are an android user, you can raise them to M General first). If you bought Manstein: You can fit him in No.2 tank slot or No.2 artillery slot. I would recommend No.2 artillery slot because it needs us to make a eye covered artillery, which costs a lot, while we can just buy Patton who is only 3430 for No.2 tank. If you bought Zhukov: You can fit him in No.3 artillery slot and infantry slot. It is fine for him to fit in both at the same time. If you bought Eisenhower: You can fit him in infantry-air or navy-air slot. I would recommend navy-air slot because Goring is way cheaper than Yamamoto. I bought Ozawa and sold Meyer I fell that I shouldn't have bought him at all my main concern is how do I save when I don't make any medals ? Should I start a lot of conquests ?? Or do missions without any gens well it sound pretty insane pls help me out I'm really confused ..! |
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Post by NetherFreek on May 22, 2016 16:57:49 GMT
How about
badoglio-greim-vatutin-guderian-yamamoto-govorov-patton-bay.c.x-valivesky-eye covered
Or
Badoglio-greim-guderian-govorov-yamamoto-konev-eye covered
Or (paid)
Manstein-ozawa-guderian-govorov-patton-yamamoto, sell ozawa-konev/bay+valivesky-eye covered
Or (paid)
Zhukov-ozawa-guderian-patton-govorov-yamamoto, sell ozawa-eye covered
Or (paid)
Eisenhower-badoglio-guderian-govorov-patton-konev-eye covered
Or (paid)
Manstein-eisenhower-guderian-govorov-patton-arty gen-eye covered
Or (paid)
Manstein-zhukov-eisenhower-guderian-patton-govorov-eye covered
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Post by NetherFreek on May 22, 2016 16:59:59 GMT
I made the slot fitting thread before, and now I am making the progress of buying general by the progress in game. Any suggestions are welcomed. Early Game:Start to save for 1210 immediately for Badoglio (Italy), then gain 550 for Ozawa (Japan), then save 3350 for Guderian (Germany). This is the easiest way. If you are confident enough, buy Govorov (Soviet Union) instead of Badoglio, or straight to Guderian. If you find it pretty hard for only 2 generals, try to get Vatutin (Soviet Union). p.s. There will be a surprising gift after you break through WTO/NATO 6! Mid Game:At the moment you get Guderian, you are in mid game now. Buy Govorov if you did not, and then Patton (US), Goring (Germany). Late Game:Now you have different choices. Now for the No.3 tank, if you don't have Vatutin, you can either buy Rommel (Germany) who is better at mobility and survivability, or Vatutin raised to L General who is cheaper and has better fire power. For No.3 artillery, you can either buy Konev (Soviet Union) who is hybrid artillery-infantry and has better output, or Bai C.X. (China) who has better mobility and survivalability, or even Badoglio if you appreciate his Explosives. Now start to build the first stage of eye covered artillery general with 3 star artillery&movement, M General, lvl 3 Plain Fighting, lvl 2 Artillery Barrage&Explosive. Say goodbye to Ozawa, and buy Yamamoto (Japan). You can promote Guderian and Govorov to Marshal and let Badoglio retire. If you did buy Bai C.X. or Badoglio, please buy Vasilevsky (Soviet Union) as an infantry general. End Game:Congratulations! You are finally in this stage now! The eye covered artillery can be at the last atep, with full stars, skills (add Ace Forces and Supply), and rank. Feel free to promote your generals or make eye covered tank(with Blitzkrieg+Tide of Iron+Explosive+Plain Fighting+Supply/lvl 3 Ace Forces)/artillery(change Ace Forces to Street Fighting if you want it conquest focused or Defense Tactic if you sre lucky/sl player). Feel free to comment, I'll edit it if necessary. For the ones who paid money for the 3 IAP generals:It is really not that necessary for buying Badoglio and Ozawa at the beginning, you can just go straight to Guderian(if you are an android user, you can raise them to M General first). If you bought Manstein: You can fit him in No.2 tank slot or No.2 artillery slot. I would recommend No.2 artillery slot because it needs us to make a eye covered artillery, which costs a lot, while we can just buy Patton who is only 3430 for No.2 tank. If you bought Zhukov: You can fit him in No.3 artillery slot and infantry slot. It is fine for him to fit in both at the same time. If you bought Eisenhower: You can fit him in infantry-air or navy-air slot. I would recommend navy-air slot because Goring is way cheaper than Yamamoto. I bought Ozawa and sold Meyer I fell that I shouldn't have bought him at all my main concern is how do I save when I don't make any medals ? Should I start a lot of conquests ?? Or do missions without any gens well it sound pretty insane pls help me out I'm really confused ..! When finishing 1939 conquest beneath 65 rounds, you can build a medal wonder. That wonder generates medals. Also, i reccomend using ozawa as an air general instead as a naval general |
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Post by Comrade Willis on May 23, 2016 3:34:02 GMT
Yeah I used him as an air gen but I didn't complete within 65 turns ....  because of my bad tech level and my crappy generals .... |
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