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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jul 3, 2021 23:10:31 GMT
Because destroying forts make them level up faster? It's a 50% bonus after all. If Moreau deals almost no damage, then I can hardly think of another good damage dealer. He is squishy I agree with that. This is my saying for cavalary generals! You dont't need 1-4 training stars: Guards Cavalary comes with Spy-De-Luxe (+50% Forts and +50% Navy) and multiple attacks per round! Attacking with the snair is much more effective than training ! The problems come with ⭐ (5 cheverons) Don't attack forts with artillery generals - search an exclusive point in range of one or two forts, but attack a unit that can't fight back! You keep health easy (probable counts as relax round ?) and gain morale. Just counterattack forts with artillery! You don't raise rank on AI-turn, but dmg-points for cheverons you deal ! Mr Trotsky, you are not thinking with the pov of someone who doesn’t swap items. I only have 2 snair drums and those go to the cavarly generals. If I have more than 2 cavarly generals, one of them lacks a snair drum and has to have many training stars to make up for their damage declining |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jul 3, 2021 23:34:27 GMT
Because destroying forts make them level up faster? It's a 50% bonus after all. If Moreau deals almost no damage, then I can hardly think of another good damage dealer. He is squishy I agree with that. Nelson, Sophia, Isabella deal more damage than Moreau while not being as squishy. Scharnhorst has even more survivability. I'll take Nelson assuming it's hard for you to avoid cavalry. Sophia is a fort cracker so I'll leave her out as well. But can you explain how in the world is ISABELA a better damage dealer than Moreau??? She literally has one fewer damage skill than him! That doesn't make any sense unless you are being unlucky with Moreau all the time. Let alone Scharnhorst who's just a slower and squishier Isabela. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jul 3, 2021 23:35:48 GMT
Nelson, Sophia, Isabella deal more damage than Moreau while not being as squishy. Scharnhorst has even more survivability. I'll take Nelson assuming it's hard for you to avoid cavalry. Sophia is a fort cracker so I'll leave her out as well. But can you explain how in the world is ISABELA a better damage dealer than Moreau??? She literally has one fewer damage skill than him! That doesn't make any sense unless you are being unlucky with Moreau all the time. Let alone Scharnhorst who's just a slower and squishier Isabela. You can give Isabella extra powder, Moreau needs the extra slot for a war horse and a tent because his survivability is god awful |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jul 3, 2021 23:42:45 GMT
I'll take Nelson assuming it's hard for you to avoid cavalry. Sophia is a fort cracker so I'll leave her out as well. But can you explain how in the world is ISABELA a better damage dealer than Moreau??? She literally has one fewer damage skill than him! That doesn't make any sense unless you are being unlucky with Moreau all the time. Let alone Scharnhorst who's just a slower and squishier Isabela. You can give Isabella extra powder, Moreau needs the extra slot for a war horse and a tent because his survivability is god awful ... I'll take it. BTW I recommend dropping the tent. It doesn't really help a lot with survivability unless your Moreau is always away from battle. A helmet would probably do a better job. At least in EW4 defense actually has some use. |
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Post by littlecorporal on Jul 4, 2021 5:42:15 GMT
Tents are useful on ships.
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Post by STILETT0 on Jul 6, 2021 21:31:33 GMT
Honestly, I’d take Suchet over Moreau any day of the week lol. Moreau is so bad 😂 y'all be comparing Moreau, an arty general, to Suchet, an infantry general, and then Savary, who is a cavalry general! What is wrong with y'all? |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jul 7, 2021 14:44:38 GMT
Honestly, I’d take Suchet over Moreau any day of the week lol. Moreau is so bad 😂 y'all be comparing Moreau, an arty general, to Suchet, an infantry general, and then Savary, who is a cavalry general! What is wrong with y'all? Suchet is a hybrid, Savary is a hybrid as well, Moreau tries to be an infantry general but fails miserably. |
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Post by ks on Jul 7, 2021 23:43:01 GMT
Moreau is way better than Suchet lol, after all he is the only general with engineeringaccurate and explosives. He is a really good artillery general, doesn’t deserve the hate
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jul 8, 2021 10:59:26 GMT
Moreau is way better than Suchet lol, after all he is the only general with engineering and explosives. He is a really good artillery general, doesn’t deserve the hate What about Marmont? |
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Post by 𝘛𝘳𝘰𝘵𝘴𝘬𝘺 on Jul 8, 2021 11:48:45 GMT
y'all be comparing Moreau, an arty general, to Suchet, an infantry general, and then Savary, who is a cavalry general! What is wrong with y'all? Suchet is a hybrid, Savary is a hybrid as well, Moreau tries to be an infantry general but fails miserably. Yes putting Moreau on infantry is a miserably fail. Immagine how bad Moreau would be if he got additional 4⭐ on cavalary. Or Lasalle with additional stars in Infantry-this will make LaSalle even worst  Sorry, I can't follow any argumentation in this way! Unused additional stars can't cause downrating!Moreau has 4 Artillery skills, his usage on cavalary or infantry is absolutely irrelevant for his HQ-evaluation. In the campaign, you may get him on infantry (for shure). |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jul 8, 2021 13:57:50 GMT
Suchet is a hybrid, Savary is a hybrid as well, Moreau tries to be an infantry general but fails miserably. Yes putting Moreau on infantry is a miserably fail. Immagine how bad Moreau would be if he got additional 4⭐ on cavalary. Or Lasalle with additional stars in Infantry-this will make LaSalle even worst Sorry, I can't follow any argumentation in this way! Unused additional stars can't cause downrating!Moreau has 4 Artillery skills, his usage on cavalary or infantry is absolutely irrelevant for his HQ-evaluation. In the campaign, you may get him on infantry (for shure). I don’t judge moreau on his worthless infantry stars. Davout has 3 infantry stars and is a better infantry general than Moreau, doesn’t mean I’ll ever use him on intantry. However, Moreau’s value as an artillery general isn’t very good. Explosives is ok, Ballistics is below average, Engineering is alright, only accurate is a great skill. Let’s compare Moreau to other free generals. Sophia is unlock-able very early on and is way better, even having good hybrid potential. Ushakov is needs to be regrouped a couple times, but Ushakov at his maximum potential is hard to distinguish from Moreau. Kutaisov is only a minor downgrade in speed. Scharnhorst is actually better because an extra training star > ballistics + explosives. Sakurako is way better. Isabella is way better. So if you get Moreau, by the time that you get Sophia, he’ll be outdated and practically worthless. Davout and Nelson if used right can be used instead of Sophia as Davout has massive output and Nelson has massive defense. Fine fine, why are we comparing a 6 emblem general to an 8 emblem general. Oh wait, Soult exists who is a far better infantry-artillery hybrid and has moreau’s speed with one diez. Poniatowski is faster, stronger, and harder hitting than Moreau (when used right). I’m sorry, I just hate Moreau so much because he is utterly worthless in the grand scheme of things. A princess you can get in the first hour of playing ew4 outclasses him permanently |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jul 8, 2021 14:02:48 GMT
And compared to Suvorov and Lassalle, Suvorov at least has 5 training stars to compensate for his awful movement. Lassalle lacks training stars, but doesn’t need to be regrouped at all. Moreau lacks training stars and has to be regrouped a bunch of times, so he is the worst of the bunch.
Plus Lassalle and Suvorov at least won’t be outclassed after the first HRE 1798 conquest is completed, unlike Moreau and Dearborn
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Post by ks on Jul 8, 2021 14:56:46 GMT
Moreau is way better than Suchet lol, after all he is the only general with engineering and explosives. He is a really good artillery general, doesn’t deserve the hate What about Marmont? Oops, I meant accurate and explosives |
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Post by John Marston on Jul 18, 2021 7:29:59 GMT
Alright, so I upgraded Dearborn and downgraded Massena. But 𝘛𝘳𝘰𝘵𝘴𝘬𝘺, I'm not sure where to place Lassale because he isn't that bad for a yellow and not that good as green. I don't want to create a seperate colour just for him. And I am still unconvinced about Moreau. Because if his output, with his skills is roughly equal to that of Napoleon's. But still, Napoleon is bad, even though he can take damage. |
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Post by John Marston on Jul 18, 2021 7:59:56 GMT
JacksonType of General : Business/Infantry
Price : 6 Emblems
Jackson is a bad general for his price. He is good in neither Infantry, nor Business. 3 stars aren't good for an IAP, especially when you don't have any skills. 5 star business is good. But he has only economic master to supplement it. Business trainer? There are waayy cheaper alternatives. Logistics is useless as you will never use it. All for nothing. |
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