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Post by Port on Aug 2, 2021 1:18:45 GMT
GrouchyPrice: 4 Emblems or 910 Medals Type of General: Artillery Grouchy looks very appealing. He has 4 stars in artillery, yes. 2 movement...Yes. Engineering...yes again. No need to grind for refreshes (Appears in Academy at the start)...Yes! John Marston 's first buy? Yes again! Just like his master Napoleon, he has a good raw power. But he has no skills to support him. The most expensive tier 2 artillery general. Scharnhorst, Carteaux, Sophia, Kutaisov all are equal or better and cheaper than him. Just imagine...ET made Grouchy, who was a RL cavalry general, an artillery general. So if he was an artillery general in RL, then what would've happened!? He didn’t appear at the start for me.
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Post by John Marston on Aug 2, 2021 6:14:58 GMT
Port, I play on PC so my game version might be an older one. He does appears for me at the start
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Post by Port on Aug 2, 2021 18:57:31 GMT
Port , I play on PC so my game version might be an older one. He does appears for me at the start When I first started playing EW4, it was at least 2017.
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Post by John Marston on Aug 6, 2021 2:56:46 GMT
Port , I play on PC so my game version might be an older one. He does appears for me at the start When I first started playing EW4, it was at least 2017. He does appear for me. I can reinstall and screenshot if you want.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Aug 6, 2021 12:58:53 GMT
When I first started playing EW4, it was at least 2017. He does appear for me. I can reinstall and screenshot if you want. It varies by installations. Reinstall the game and you get a completely different combination of generals in your academy.
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Post by 𝘛𝘳𝘰𝘵𝘴𝘬𝘺 on Aug 6, 2021 18:21:17 GMT
He does appear for me. I can reinstall and screenshot if you want. It varies by installations. Reinstall the game and you get a completely different combination of generals in your academy. Not on Andoid ! Dumouirez is always at the beginning in the academy. The trick how to get Arnold (or other trainer) at the start works with all versions. Only by doing one move in campaign or conquest, the results become random.
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Post by Port on Aug 6, 2021 19:35:42 GMT
When I first started playing EW4, it was at least 2017. He does appear for me. I can reinstall and screenshot if you want. Well I am on IOS, so that can explain something.
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Post by 𝘛𝘳𝘰𝘵𝘴𝘬𝘺 on Aug 6, 2021 23:28:23 GMT
He does appear for me. I can reinstall and screenshot if you want. Well I am on IOS, so that can explain something. I am always curious, and practical all all my findings came out of a forum discussion like this - and then I test it if possible - even the Trainer/Arnold trick for Android. Fact: Android always stars with these 6 Tier 1 generals: Franquemont, Marmont, Vandamme, Dumouirez, Kollowrat, Bouvet It will be great to have to have the informations, how it is on other OS (MS,Apple)? Which generals You have in the academy after (new)start, John Marston, Port ... and everyone ?
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Aug 7, 2021 1:38:21 GMT
Oudinot
Price: 4 Emblems or 950 medals Type of General: Infantry Ah yes! French brother of Dobeln. However, he has 3 training stars in exchange for none for Dobeln's and 1 in movement compared to 2 of Dobeln. The bigger difference is that Dobeln has mass fire instead of Formation and he costs 80 medals less. Along with that, he needs snare drum, to work as Dobeln so...definetely a no buy. To be honest, I think Oudinot is better than Dobeln. You can give him a snare drum (if he is an only general), and he is F2P Suvurov, Complete with Training stars. In addition, he has a much better starting rank and nobility, just for convenience. I think Oudinot is better, because, with Upgrades, he is far better than Dobeln.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Aug 7, 2021 1:42:35 GMT
WellesleyType of General : Infantry centered hybrid Wellesley is another good general, however, the main problem with him, as we saw with Murat is that there are better replacements. Why would a combat general need Economic master? He would stay in the cities only for healing. Banner is really expensive. Bugle and Leadership are great skills. But, he has only 2 movement stars, which is very poor. What? You give Washington A purple but him a Yellow? You regroup Arnold into Him, and he Has 2 less training, an extra star, and Bugle for Mass Fire. I think he is far better.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Aug 7, 2021 1:44:38 GMT
KutuzovType of General : Infantry/Fort
Price : 8 Emblems
Competition with other generals turned out to be a much bigger factor than I thought. Kutuzov is actually pretty decent general even though he lacks survivability. His 3 stars movement are enough for an infantry general. He has 5 stars fort and Fireproof to supplement that, but he used rarely on forts. Siege Master is a good skill for destroying the cities and formation again, is a decent skill. But, there are much better alternatives than this guy. Those bunch of generals on the top are the ones most useful, rendering him ineffective. Hold on. Lacks survivability? He has Defense Art if needed and Fireproof? Is that not good enough? What other skills improve survivability?
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Post by John Marston on Aug 7, 2021 2:28:40 GMT
Oudinot
Price: 4 Emblems or 950 medals Type of General: Infantry Ah yes! French brother of Dobeln. However, he has 3 training stars in exchange for none for Dobeln's and 1 in movement compared to 2 of Dobeln. The bigger difference is that Dobeln has mass fire instead of Formation and he costs 80 medals less. Along with that, he needs snare drum, to work as Dobeln so...definetely a no buy. To be honest, I think Oudinot is better than Dobeln. You can give him a snare drum (if he is an only general), and he is F2P Suvurov, Complete with Training stars. In addition, he has a much better starting rank and nobility, just for convenience. I think Oudinot is better, because, with Upgrades, he is far better than Dobeln. But Dobeln is cheap and comes with added Snare drum i.e. Mass fire.
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Post by John Marston on Aug 7, 2021 2:30:46 GMT
Well I am on IOS, so that can explain something. I am always curious, and practical all all my findings came out of a forum discussion like this - and then I test it if possible - even the Trainer/Arnold trick for Android. Fact: Android always stars with these 6 Tier 1 generals: Franquemont, Marmont, Vandamme, Dumouirez, Kollowrat, Bouvet It will be great to have to have the informations, how it is on other OS (MS,Apple)? Which generals You have in the academy after (new)start, John Marston , Port ... and everyone ? For middle tier, it is always Grouchy, Drummond, Beresford and Palafox. For IAPs, it's always Jervis and Dombrowski. Not sure about tier 1
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Post by John Marston on Aug 7, 2021 2:33:02 GMT
WellesleyType of General : Infantry centered hybrid Wellesley is another good general, however, the main problem with him, as we saw with Murat is that there are better replacements. Why would a combat general need Economic master? He would stay in the cities only for healing. Banner is really expensive. Bugle and Leadership are great skills. But, he has only 2 movement stars, which is very poor. What? You give Washington A purple but him a Yellow? You regroup Arnold into Him, and he Has 2 less training, an extra star, and Bugle for Mass Fire. I think he is far better. I was confused between giving him Green and Yellow, but I guess I should make him green. But he isn't greater than Washington and Mass fire > Bugle and he can't survive for long. Not sure how he would face in a siege though.
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Post by John Marston on Aug 7, 2021 2:34:55 GMT
KutuzovType of General : Infantry/Fort
Price : 8 Emblems
Competition with other generals turned out to be a much bigger factor than I thought. Kutuzov is actually pretty decent general even though he lacks survivability. His 3 stars movement are enough for an infantry general. He has 5 stars fort and Fireproof to supplement that, but he used rarely on forts. Siege Master is a good skill for destroying the cities and formation again, is a decent skill. But, there are much better alternatives than this guy. Those bunch of generals on the top are the ones most useful, rendering him ineffective. Hold on. Lacks survivability? He has Defense Art if needed and Fireproof? Is that not good enough? What other skills improve survivability? Well, fireproof is useless on land, Defense Art is unreliable. My point with him is that there are greater alternatives than him.
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