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Post by Erich von Manstein on Aug 7, 2021 3:05:56 GMT
To be honest, I think Oudinot is better than Dobeln. You can give him a snare drum (if he is an only general), and he is F2P Suvurov, Complete with Training stars. In addition, he has a much better starting rank and nobility, just for convenience. I think Oudinot is better, because, with Upgrades, he is far better than Dobeln. But Dobeln is cheap and comes with added Snare drum i.e. Mass fire. Dobeln is better if you give him everything or nothing. Oudinot is better in between. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Aug 7, 2021 3:06:37 GMT
What? You give Washington A purple but him a Yellow? You regroup Arnold into Him, and he Has 2 less training, an extra star, and Bugle for Mass Fire. I think he is far better. I was confused between giving him Green and Yellow, but I guess I should make him green. But he isn't greater than Washington and Mass fire > Bugle and he can't survive for long. Not sure how he would face in a siege though. Bugle > MF, unless you are Friedrich βFried Riceβ Paulus and never swap items. |
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Post by John Marston on Aug 7, 2021 3:10:44 GMT
I was confused between giving him Green and Yellow, but I guess I should make him green. But he isn't greater than Washington and Mass fire > Bugle and he can't survive for long. Not sure how he would face in a siege though. Bugle > MF, unless you are Friedrich βFried Riceβ Paulus and never swap items. Haha no, I'm not him. But I actually don't swap items except for Princess conquests |
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Aug 7, 2021 3:54:19 GMT
Haha no, I'm not him. But I actually don't swap items except for Princess conquests Following your ranking, I got lately impression ... Since I learned that Friedrich βFried Riceβ Paulus plays the non-swapping-challenge style EW4, I could follow his evaluations in detail. Only about training stars for top Cavalary generals I discussIn EW6 swapping items seems to be limited, but in EW4 it is for my point of view, an essential part of the gameplay (why I buy items?): A turn has differennt phases: - preturn eliminations - (only cavallary)
- movement
- battle
- AI action
I don't want to loose 1-2 hex movement or, on the other hand, a snair-drum and +x DMG, if it's just five clicks away. But this changes compleetly the value of units and generals: For a non-swapper, an infantry general is already a thought, with MassFire he becomes really great and geography is a usefull skill ... For me, the non-swapping evaluation is a key to to understand and use the mission generals at their best. |
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Post by Port on Aug 8, 2021 12:34:00 GMT
Well I am on IOS, so that can explain something. I am always curious, and practical all all my findings came out of a forum discussion like this - and then I test it if possible - even the Trainer/Arnold trick for Android. Fact: Android always stars with these 6 Tier 1 generals: Franquemont, Marmont, Vandamme, Dumouirez, Kollowrat, Bouvet It will be great to have to have the informations, how it is on other OS (MS,Apple)? Which generals You have in the academy after (new)start, John Marston , Port ... and everyone ? It sometimes changes, from device to device. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Aug 8, 2021 13:29:43 GMT
Well I am on IOS, so that can explain something. I am always curious, and practical all all my findings came out of a forum discussion like this - and then I test it if possible - even the Trainer/Arnold trick for Android. Fact: Android always stars with these 6 Tier 1 generals: Franquemont, Marmont, Vandamme, Dumouirez, Kollowrat, Bouvet It will be great to have to have the informations, how it is on other OS (MS,Apple)? Which generals You have in the academy after (new)start, John Marston , Port ... and everyone ? It's different every time I reinstall the game (as iOS). I started my current save with a legendary startup of Kutaisov and Arnold both available immediately and Dumouriez after the 2 free refreshes. I tend to reinstall the game every time I don't get Arnold right away. |
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Aug 8, 2021 13:57:23 GMT
I am always curious, and practical all all my findings came out of a forum discussion like this - and then I test it if possible - even the Trainer/Arnold trick for Android. Fact: Android always stars with these 6 Tier 1 generals: Franquemont, Marmont, Vandamme, Dumouirez, Kollowrat, Bouvet It will be great to have to have the informations, how it is on other OS (MS,Apple)? Which generals You have in the academy after (new)start, John Marston , Port ... and everyone ? It sometimes changes, from device to device. Thank you for your feedback Port. For android I don't know any other starting. I tested on three different devices more or less all builds I found. When you restart one time, please post your findings (And the OS you use) |
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Aug 8, 2021 14:35:40 GMT
I am always curious, and practical all all my findings came out of a forum discussion like this - and then I test it if possible - even the Trainer/Arnold trick for Android. Fact: Android always stars with these 6 Tier 1 generals: Franquemont, Marmont, Vandamme, Dumouirez, Kollowrat, Bouvet It will be great to have to have the informations, how it is on other OS (MS,Apple)? Which generals You have in the academy after (new)start, John Marston , Port ... and everyone ? It's different every time I reinstall the game (as iOS). I started my current save with a legendary startup of Kutaisov and Arnold both available immediately and Dumouriez after the 2 free refreshes. I tend to reinstall the game every time I don't get Arnold right away. Did you notice my android-cheat to get Arnold and even Kutaisov or Latour directly at start? (The trick is to start/exit the game after install, and then you use the two refreshes to get the trainer.) EW4 was developed for IOS, the Android version is a spinoff and missing a working multiplayer, a random academy start... what else? The output formula we have (100% correct for maxDmg) is found out on Android! If you look at EW3, you see that min-dmg should be multiplied with the health-formation-factor. (IN EW3 you have #health-formation-factor (1-5) dices with min-dmg to max-dmg as possible values on the surface. Health_formation_factor * min-dmg is the lowest possible net-dmg in EW2 & EW3) That min-dmg has no effect, can be another glitch that only affects Android. Maybe on IOS formation is a full working and valuable skill? I believe this is still untested. |
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Post by Port on Aug 12, 2021 1:02:44 GMT
It's different every time I reinstall the game (as iOS). I started my current save with a legendary startup of Kutaisov and Arnold both available immediately and Dumouriez after the 2 free refreshes. I tend to reinstall the game every time I don't get Arnold right away. Did you notice my android-cheat to get Arnold and even Kutaisov or Latour directly at start? (The trick is to start/exit the game after install, and then you use the two refreshes to get the trainer.) EW4 was developed for IOS, the Android version is a spinoff and missing a working multiplayer, a random academy start... what else? The output formula we have (100% correct for maxDmg) is found out on Android! If you look at EW3, you see that min-dmg should be multiplied with the health-formation-factor. (IN EW3 you have #health-formation-factor (1-5) dices with min-dmg to max-dmg as possible values on the surface. Health_formation_factor * min-dmg is the lowest possible net-dmg in EW2 & EW3) That min-dmg has no effect, can be another glitch that only affects Android. Maybe on IOS formation is a full working and valuable skill? I believe this is still untested. I donβt know. I donβt plan to restart. Even if I do, I still have my Game Center account which saves my progress. |
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Post by Port on Aug 12, 2021 1:05:57 GMT
Haha no, I'm not him. But I actually don't swap items except for Princess conquests Following your ranking, I got lately impression ... Since I learned that Friedrich βFried Riceβ Paulus plays the non-swapping-challenge style EW4, I could follow his evaluations in detail. Only about training stars for top Cavalary generals I discussIn EW6 swapping items seems to be limited, but in EW4 it is for my point of view, an essential part of the gameplay (why I buy items?): A turn has differennt phases: - preturn eliminations - (only cavallary)
- movement
- battle
- AI action
I don't want to loose 1-2 hex movement or, on the other hand, a snair-drum and +x DMG, if it's just five clicks away. But this changes compleetly the value of units and generals: For a non-swapper, an infantry general is already a thought, with MassFire he becomes really great and geography is a usefull skill ... For me, the non-swapping evaluation is a key to to understand and use the mission generals at their best. , to be honest it might be useful for the Ew6s as well, but would just take a very very long time. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Aug 12, 2021 1:36:53 GMT
 YermolovPrice: 885 Medals Type of General : Infantry/Artillery general No, Yermolov is not a good buy Why? Because he is basically a downgraded version of Scharnhorst for 90 medals more. Both have 4 stars, but Yermolov has formation in exchange for engineering and 3 stars on infantry. However, Scharnhorst has 3 training stars compared to none. He comes very expensive too. Regroup him a couple times, give him a snare, and you've got Soult for free. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Aug 12, 2021 2:50:57 GMT
Did you notice my android-cheat to get Arnold and even Kutaisov or Latour directly at start? (The trick is to start/exit the game after install, and then you use the two refreshes to get the trainer.) EW4 was developed for IOS, the Android version is a spinoff and missing a working multiplayer, a random academy start... what else? The output formula we have (100% correct for maxDmg) is found out on Android! If you look at EW3, you see that min-dmg should be multiplied with the health-formation-factor. (IN EW3 you have #health-formation-factor (1-5) dices with min-dmg to max-dmg as possible values on the surface. Health_formation_factor * min-dmg is the lowest possible net-dmg in EW2 & EW3) That min-dmg has no effect, can be another glitch that only affects Android. Maybe on IOS formation is a full working and valuable skill? I believe this is still untested. I donβt know. I donβt plan to restart. Even if I do, I still have my Game Center account which saves my progress. It doesn't. The first ET game that can save your progress is GoG2. |
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Post by John Marston on Aug 12, 2021 2:52:24 GMT
I donβt know. I donβt plan to restart. Even if I do, I still have my Game Center account which saves my progress. It doesn't. The first ET game that can save your progress is GoG2. I don't know, I might be wrong but I heard you can save your EW4 progress in iOS via Game Center |
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Post by John Marston on Aug 12, 2021 8:26:26 GMT
 Gravina Price: 3 Emblems or 755 Medals Type of General: Navy At first look, Gravina doesn't look too bad. 4 stars in navy + Steersman is ok. 2 stars on artillery is a bonus so that you can use him on land as well. When you are done with him, regroup into anyone of your choice and you gain a star in navy. But he is really not worth 755 medals. There are better options to consider even for 755 medals. Bad choice. Sure, he might get you through that particular level, but he really isn't worth as a long term investement. |
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Post by John Marston on Aug 12, 2021 8:37:35 GMT
At this point, I feel there is not a need to rank all other Tier 2 generals. It's get pointless now, where every general is crap. At this point, I'm stopping Tier 2 generals. For the last tier, I will do it in Erich von Manstein's style and only the good ones. |
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