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Post by Khurram on May 16, 2015 18:29:39 GMT
How the Hell do u it, I keep getting overwhelmed by the austrians and the russians are too much of a problem
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Post by Monty on May 16, 2015 18:48:59 GMT
Leave some non General troops up above the river in Austria. Then, have your main force push under the river and eventually you should reach veinna. Most likely the few troops you have on the top will be able to hold off the Austrian Calvary general from taking your cities. Anyways, Hold Veinna until you have killed a majority of Russian generals. Then kill the final Austrian general.
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Post by saltin on May 16, 2015 23:29:42 GMT
credit for the following tactic: General Grant
You asked for full detail... you got it. I have two hired generals and two princesses, and though none are very strong yet, your strategy may be different if you have fewer, more, weaker, or stronger generals.
Send all troops along the Danube River (the large east-west one that runs through Vienna), taking out troops along the way. Protect Soult and Davout, your two artillery generals – you’ll need them later to take Vienna and Brunn and eliminate Kutuzov and Bagration. You can have some fun using an artillery from Brunswick to bombard the Prussian troops directly east of Oldenburg if you want… one of my generals was doing this the entire battle, and Prussia never retaliated!
By around round 6, you can be in position to surround or at least flank Vienna. Coalition forces will make a defensive line running through Brunn, Austerlitz, and the Austrian fort. In round 7, Prussia may send a few troops due south – not much of a problem, but this is also when Russian reinforcements will start to arrive… fortunately, not all at once.
When you take Buda and/or Pest (if not sooner) the Austrian cavalry in the south will counterattack, so finish taking Vienna first, even if those cities are unoccupied. About round 11, the troops east and northeast of Pest will attack, as well. Bear in mind that NONE of all these troops need to be killed except for the southern cavalry general.
At this point, it becomes a slugfest between your line stretching from Buda and Pest northwestward through Vienna and Austerlitz up to the lone factory, and the latter half of the Russian reinforcements and Austrian counterattack. It’ll be brutal, because by now your generals will be very weak, but hold the line and keep building artillery at both ends – you’ll need it against Bagration in particular. Bombard Brunn when you have no other target – Leiberich won’t budge from that spot.
Retreat back across the river only if you must, but hold the lone factory, Buda, Pest, and especially Vienna at all costs. By denying them those cities, you deny them front-line reinforcements. Block with infantry, hit with artillery, and their forces will run out of steam. Austerlitz is useful for pumping out cheap militia (or infantry, if you upgrade it) – they’ll waste time trying to take it while you blast them!
This map can be beat in 14 rounds, as described. Good luck!
Other tips: - Even without any additional generals, you start with more general units than non-general units (not counting forts). Russia is also top-loaded like this, but Austria is not. Take advantage of this weakness and butcher their small fry! - Three of your pre-loaded generals on this map - Murat, Lannes, and Davout - have Assault Art; you can save before each attack and reload until it activates. You’ll rack up lots of bonus medals in the process! As Lannes also has Mass Fire, if you keep him alive and the other two safe, you can have 3 generals hitting 70+ per turn right up until the end! - Prussia will pretty much ignore you unless provoked, but about round 7 they will build a cavalry at the empty stable and send that and one artillery directly south against you. Seriously, that’s Prussia’s only attack. Their forts and artillery WILL fire on you if you come within their range, but NO troops will advance. Send in cannon fodder if you really want to take that unguarded stable, unless you want Blucher’s Sabre (+2 ATK for cavalry for 180 medals... not bad) from there, then send a discounting general, of course. Over half of Prussia's forces are forts or distant slow units that would never reach you anyway! - You can completely ignore the southernmost coastal battery and artillery. The coastal battery will duel with your own fort (and inevitably lose) and the artillery won’t do a thing unless you get in range.
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Post by saltin on May 16, 2015 23:42:07 GMT
Remember you dont need to kill everything only the target generals,and any enemy unit that cannot be avoided.
Anyways,another strategy you can try is to divide your forces into 2 groups and gain territory slowy moving into the middle of the Austrian land and regroup there just about that time the Russians should have reached you.
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Post by Monty on May 17, 2015 0:25:50 GMT
I played that scenerio as all vs prussia. With no timelimit i won :3. Anyways the whole 1 horse thing and artillery is not programed. Its just that their economy is nerfed so thats all they can afford.
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Post by kanue on May 17, 2015 4:23:21 GMT
Monty, how do you do that?
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Post by saltin on May 17, 2015 8:32:47 GMT
Added three emperors video,just one more alternative, look in this board (the locked threads)
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Post by Khurram on May 17, 2015 11:10:01 GMT
Thanks monty, saltin, the last time I tried gen.grant's strategy and it worked quite much but the northern artillery general came to the south army and nearly killed all the men there, up north lannes and soult were also dead so I had to do the whole thing again, anyways I recently bought dobeln and put some stuff on him, let's see what happens next (I had killed all attacking russians including generals).
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Post by saltin on May 17, 2015 12:17:41 GMT
Sure thing,it often takes several tries to pass the harder EW4 missions! I took a few breaks several times during the campaigns to go back to conquest and make my general stronger so they could handle the harder parts.
You are going to hit more road blocks for sure so dont hesitate to post,and if you register you wont have to do the captcha "prove you are human" annoying checks everytime you want to post.
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Post by Khurram on May 18, 2015 18:01:26 GMT
Well I did it today finally but now I am stuck at jena, please give some pre-mission advice before I make a random strategy
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Post by saltin on May 18, 2015 18:46:38 GMT
Great,just start a new thread for Jena.
Each battle has to have its own thread so it will make it easier on someone else that needs help to find it.
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Post by Anonymous on May 18, 2015 19:50:37 GMT
Here is how I did it with no additional generals, 17 turns total: (Note that the numbers are not necessarily turn numbers, but merely the orders in which I took them)
#1. * Use Murat and co. to rescue Ney; focus on the cavalry to Ney's left. * Use Napoleon, Davout and co. to take Dresden and move to pressure Jena * Use Augerau and co. to take Brunswick * Use ships to take out the cavalry unit in Kiel * Upgrade cities
#2. * Once Ney recovers from confusion, pull him back to Dresden and let him rest there * Take Jena, and send Murat towards Berlin to take out the fort * Send Augerau towards Berlin to provide support, and split his army to send a unit or two towards Oldenburg as well. * Use ships to take out the Danish port * Upgrade cities
#3. * Pull back and consolidate near Jena, which will most likely fall. Start producing guards at Dresden, and fight a war of attrition against the Prussians. * Use Augerau to capture Oldenburg, then send him to capture Kiel * Napoleon should probably fall back towards Wiesbaden by this point, since he should be low. He can return to the battlefield once he has about half-hp later. * Davout will likely be the main source of firepower at this point. * Move ships down the Kattegat, take out the coast artillery
#4. * Verdun, Wiesbaden, and Dresden should all be Tier-6 cities by this point, as well as whatever upgrades that were invested in Oldenburg/Jena. * Take Jena, continue pushing Northwards towards Berlin, use Murat to take out the fort to the right. Start producing light artillery at Brunswick, and move the Guard production from Dresden to Jena. * Russians should have started, or have already landed by this point * Send Augerau back into Germany, take out the Russian artillery if possible. Let him play a bit until your main army is in range of Berlin. * Circle ships around Copenhagen towards the Baltic Sea, then attempt to use them to bombard enemy units near the coast
#5. * Attempt to let the Russian armies flank the left of the main army, so they free up valuable space that can be used to sncircle Berlin * Capture Berlin. * Take out Ferdinand. * Victory
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Post by Khurram on May 19, 2015 7:16:16 GMT
thanks anon, i'll copy the question and make it another thread like saltin said and make a credit too.
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Post by Archduke Charles on Feb 12, 2016 15:08:45 GMT
Ahh, this mission is hard, i tried it using my best generals at the time Murat and Napoleon but my tactic wasn't strong enough and the coalition defeated me quickly (the problem is not the enemy generals being strong) no the problems is when you're attacked by your enemy and your forced to divide your army into two troops, they will both get flanked by Austria and Russia, Also Napoleons hp goes down very fast considering that the enemy always attack him first, he dies veeery faaast, Keep that in mind (dont place him on the frontlines if you dont have a good defense, you cant have a good offense without a good defense) thats why you should bring good cavalry generals and some royal ladies
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Post by kanue on Feb 13, 2016 4:27:28 GMT
I remember having a hard time on this as well. I had only Carteaux and Kutaisov.
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