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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Jun 16, 2016 18:48:21 GMT
Mountbatten, in the top 90 cities Pakistan comes up 6 whole times! The lowest being 3.2 million people the highest being 23 million, how is that not a major city, people consider boston a big city lets say right? That's maybe 660,000 people only, Paaistan (dont follow wikapedia, it's about the 1998 census, over 18 years ago!) has over 40 cities with over 500,000 people, we also have 11 cities with over a million people while america has only 9 (not metropaltain areas). America comes up twice, and it has a population of 320 million, while Pakistan is 200 million. Pakistan has plently of major cites yo! Our city Lahore is the 15th, and Faisalabad is 40+ At least we have big cities. |
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Jun 16, 2016 18:52:04 GMT
Mountbatten , in the top 90 cities Pakistan comes up 6 whole times! The lowest being 3.2 million people the highest being 23 million, how is that not a major city, people consider boston a big city lets say right? That's maybe 660,000 people only, Paaistan (dont follow wikapedia, it's about the 1998 census, over 18 years ago!) has over 40 cities with over 500,000 people, we also have 11 cities with over a million people while america has only 9 (not metropaltain areas). America comes up twice, and it has a population of 320 million, while Pakistan is 200 million. Pakistan has plently of major cites The thing with American cities and why they're very important is really their location, not their population. The reason why, say, Chicago is a major city is because of its location, its situated on Lake Michigan and is in a very keen area for trade. With trade, you might want to manufacture more goods, meaning more industry. There are requirements that are more important than just simple population when it comes to a city being major. Same thing for NYC, it may not be the largest in population size, but its situated on a very important harbor and the city gains millions upon millions upon even billions of dollars each day due to trade revenue. The entire East Coast of the USA is situated on the Atlantic, and some very, very profitable trade comes through there. The West Coast applies too, only with it being trade coming from the Pacific instead of Atlantic. Population may be important for a city, but I think it relies more upon the location the city was founded upon in the first place. |
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Post by Władysław Anders on Jun 16, 2016 18:56:25 GMT
True, but population counts for an extremely major factor, for with increased population causes more industry, more money flow, and more development of the cities
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Jun 16, 2016 19:01:09 GMT
True, but population counts for an extremely major factor, for with increased population causes more industry, more money flow, and more development of the cities economics?  |
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Jun 16, 2016 19:08:49 GMT
True, but population counts for an extremely major factor, for with increased population causes more industry, more money flow, and more development of the cities Oh, no doubt, but often times, too much population is an extremely Negative factor. Take a look at an African megacity, Kinshasa. Kinshasa is one of the largest cities in the world based on population figures, but the government is often too weak to provide things like services of transportation, services for the poor, health services etc. etc. With a small population, these issues are bad, but with an incredibly large population these issues are even worse. Due to the overcrowding of the city, disease spreads like wildfire, ruining the standard of living, there isn't much housing to house the population, people can't get to work because of now transportation service, etc. etc. Population can be incredibly positive, but it can also be a major curse. When it all boils down to it, location is the determining factor of how important your city will be. That is a very important side effect of cities based on rivers, for example. Humans initially settled by rivers for an easy water source, but, as time progressed, the rivers became incredibly important for trade and they became a good natural defense in case of war. Now lets take a look at a city like, idk, Yerevan in Armenia. Not based on a river, not an incredible center of trade. Location is quintessential for city-building, and is by far the most determine factor of how successful the city will be. |
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Jun 16, 2016 19:11:58 GMT
Mountbatten , in the top 90 cities Pakistan comes up 6 whole times! The lowest being 3.2 million people the highest being 23 million, how is that not a major city, people consider boston a big city lets say right? That's maybe 660,000 people only, Paaistan (dont follow wikapedia, it's about the 1998 census, over 18 years ago!) has over 40 cities with over 500,000 people, we also have 11 cities with over a million people while america has only 9 (not metropaltain areas). America comes up twice, and it has a population of 320 million, while Pakistan is 200 million. Pakistan has plently of major cites yo! Our city Lahore is the 15th, and Faisalabad is 40+ At least we have big cities. Im currently reading into the Sikhs (Because, you know, I made them the Indian religion in EU4 without knowing basically anything about them other than they're Monotheistic and have a really cool gold temple place in Northern India). I find them very interesting, and they were actually able to create an empire as the Mughals began to collapse with Lahore as its capital. Now I really want to visit Lahore...and while I'm there i might as well visit Karachi |
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Post by Władysław Anders on Jun 16, 2016 19:13:03 GMT
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Jun 16, 2016 19:15:14 GMT
Yes...why? Will I be targeted if I go to Pakistan? If I am, time to get on the plane to go to Chile. |
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Post by Władysław Anders on Jun 16, 2016 19:26:00 GMT
General William T. Sherman, yerevan i s the capital of armenia, i think thats pretty successful mate, considering it being landlocked, and bordered by 2 neighbours who dont like nor even recognize and one who constantly fights with: ie: Azerbaijan, Turkey, so dont bring down the hate on yerevan m8 and be a good man *drum roll* Hold the applause! But seriously, this debate also dependeds a bit about ideological views, i tend to actually, be a bit of communist (dont freak out) so i really do belive that population is an integral part of the development of a nation, no matter how developed or important a city is, it cant reach its full potential with out a high population
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Post by Władysław Anders on Jun 16, 2016 19:29:01 GMT
Yes...why? Will I be targeted if I go to Pakistan? If I am, time to get on the plane to go to Chile. |
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Jun 16, 2016 19:29:04 GMT
General William T. Sherman , yerevan i s the capital of armenia, i think thats pretty successful mate, considering it being landlocked, and bordered by 2 neighbours who dont like nor even recognize and one who constantly fights with: ie: Azerbaijan, Turkey, so dont bring down the hate on yerevan m8 and be a good man *drum roll* Hold the applause! But seriously, this debate also dependeds a bit about ideological views, i tend to actually, be a bit of communist (dont freak out) so i really do belive that population is an integral part of the development of a nation, no matter how developed or important a city is, it cant reach its full potential with out a high population Yes, but my point is that Yerevan would be more successful if it wasn't landlocked and was situated on a major river. |
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Post by Władysław Anders on Jun 16, 2016 19:31:32 GMT
.....I hate quoting. What i meant to say was that you should check if there are any warnings on the Karachi or Lahore consulates about PK's safety, its quite quiet now thanks to "Zarb-e-azab" but america has a mind of its own. My dad gets texts when its not safe for american citizens so i can tell you myself if you want.
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Jun 16, 2016 20:03:46 GMT
Remember when I said I'd do things today? I don't think I can
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2016 21:45:24 GMT
Mountbatten , in the top 90 cities Pakistan comes up 6 whole times! The lowest being 3.2 million people the highest being 23 million, how is that not a major city, people consider boston a big city lets say right? That's maybe 660,000 people only, Paaistan (dont follow wikapedia, it's about the 1998 census, over 18 years ago!) has over 40 cities with over 500,000 people, we also have 11 cities with over a million people while america has only 9 (not metropaltain areas). America comes up twice, and it has a population of 320 million, while Pakistan is 200 million. Pakistan has plently of major cites The thing with American cities and why they're very important is really their location, not their population. The reason why, say, Chicago is a major city is because of its location, its situated on Lake Michigan and is in a very keen area for trade. With trade, you might want to manufacture more goods, meaning more industry. There are requirements that are more important than just simple population when it comes to a city being major. Same thing for NYC, it may not be the largest in population size, but its situated on a very important harbor and the city gains millions upon millions upon even billions of dollars each day due to trade revenue. The entire East Coast of the USA is situated on the Atlantic, and some very, very profitable trade comes through there. The West Coast applies too, only with it being trade coming from the Pacific instead of Atlantic. Population may be important for a city, but I think it relies more upon the location the city was founded upon in the first place. NYC is the biggest city in USA ≈12 millions DC is the second biggest |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Jun 16, 2016 21:51:26 GMT
The thing with American cities and why they're very important is really their location, not their population. The reason why, say, Chicago is a major city is because of its location, its situated on Lake Michigan and is in a very keen area for trade. With trade, you might want to manufacture more goods, meaning more industry. There are requirements that are more important than just simple population when it comes to a city being major. Same thing for NYC, it may not be the largest in population size, but its situated on a very important harbor and the city gains millions upon millions upon even billions of dollars each day due to trade revenue. The entire East Coast of the USA is situated on the Atlantic, and some very, very profitable trade comes through there. The West Coast applies too, only with it being trade coming from the Pacific instead of Atlantic. Population may be important for a city, but I think it relies more upon the location the city was founded upon in the first place. NYC is the biggest city in USA ≈12 millions DC is the second biggest Nope! LA is #2 in both Metro and City en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_populationen.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Metropolitan_Statistical_Areas |
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