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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Jun 25, 2021 14:19:57 GMT
I absolutely hate Archers, and I try to never use them (except for them big boy Ashigarus). They are far too fragile and slow, and even though they do good damage, IMO it doesn't make up either for their incredibly slow rage regen (unlike infantry, my archers sometimes don't ever get an additional rage) or their fragility. Again, Mocte with his skills, Nobby with his Mass Fire, and Ashigarus in general are exceptions.
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Jun 25, 2021 15:40:15 GMT
This game has a bias that supports cav and archer gens. However, you can still play and do well with an inf line up.
If you're really uncomfortable with archer gens, then boost the fighting capability of your inf, cav and arty gens to compensate. If it is archer class, it's not much of a problem if you have alternatives for winning in a battle.
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Post by yuanzhong on Jun 25, 2021 15:51:14 GMT
I absolutely hate Archers, and I try to never use them (except for them big boy Ashigarus). They are far too fragile and slow, and even though they do good damage, IMO it doesn't make up either for their incredibly slow rage regen (unlike infantry, my archers sometimes don't ever get an additional rage) or their fragility. Again, Mocte with his skills, Nobby with his Mass Fire, and Ashigarus in general are exceptions. But the Arch com team (almost gens are arch with 1 arty 1 cav/inf, these number are more or less) is the first most popular team in this forum in the early time of game. Arch team has every thing a team need, healing gen, damage reduce buff gen, leadership debuff gens, 2-3 commander buff gens (they have very high atk and 2-3 com are enough, and we can avoid KSing to get rage to active com as much as possible). They're fragile but can attack w/o retaliation (except arch vs arch but you still have a chance to avoid retaliation). Movement isn't a real problem in EW5 while you can equip boots which increase the movement range a lot, and I don't think Archer is slower than other type in this game. And one more thing, inf doesn't have rage buff in early time of game (ET makes a buff for inf lately). Even now, I'm still thinking arch com team is a very solid team and use it.
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Post by Voltaire on Jul 5, 2021 22:02:42 GMT
I absolutely hate Archers, and I try to never use them (except for them big boy Ashigarus). They are far too fragile and slow, and even though they do good damage, IMO it doesn't make up either for their incredibly slow rage regen (unlike infantry, my archers sometimes don't ever get an additional rage) or their fragility. Again, Mocte with his skills, Nobby with his Mass Fire, and Ashigarus in general are exceptions. Usually for archers, I give them the best armor and boots as that counters their fragility and slowness. Like after I gave my Catherine a Lunar Shield she has 300+ defense and 1800+ hp on a machine gunner
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Jul 5, 2021 22:28:39 GMT
I absolutely hate Archers, and I try to never use them (except for them big boy Ashigarus). They are far too fragile and slow, and even though they do good damage, IMO it doesn't make up either for their incredibly slow rage regen (unlike infantry, my archers sometimes don't ever get an additional rage) or their fragility. Again, Mocte with his skills, Nobby with his Mass Fire, and Ashigarus in general are exceptions. Usually for archers, I give them the best armor and boots as that counters their fragility and slowness. Like after I gave my Catherine a Lunar Shield she has 300+ defense and 1800+ hp on a machine gunner Catherine? Gah! But I prefer giving Armor to someone who has high HP. Ceasars with the Paladin Set is literally Indestructible.
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Post by Voltaire on Jul 5, 2021 22:32:08 GMT
Usually for archers, I give them the best armor and boots as that counters their fragility and slowness. Like after I gave my Catherine a Lunar Shield she has 300+ defense and 1800+ hp on a machine gunner Catherine? Gah! But I prefer giving Armor to someone who has high HP. Ceasars with the Paladin Set is literally Indestructible. I used to do that too, but after I moved the armor to an archer (Catherine is the best archer I have), they become almost unstoppable.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Jul 5, 2021 23:12:22 GMT
Catherine? Gah! But I prefer giving Armor to someone who has high HP. Ceasars with the Paladin Set is literally Indestructible. I used to do that too, but after I moved the armor to an archer (Catherine is the best archer I have), they become almost unstoppable. I give all my 2nd best equipment to Nobunaga, 'cause Mass Fire. GET HIM NOW. UPGRADE HIM TO 4 STARS. I USED TO THINK HE WASN'T WORTH IT TOO, BUT HE IS. HIM AND HIM ALONE (unless you prefer Yi-Sun Sin, which is completely understandable, considering he is a strong Anti Arch and the cheapest Armor Master).
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Post by Voltaire on Jul 5, 2021 23:55:02 GMT
I used to do that too, but after I moved the armor to an archer (Catherine is the best archer I have), they become almost unstoppable. I give all my 2nd best equipment to Nobunaga, 'cause Mass Fire. GET HIM NOW. UPGRADE HIM TO 4 STARS. I USED TO THINK HE WASN'T WORTH IT TOO, BUT HE IS. HIM AND HIM ALONE (unless you prefer Yi-Sun Sin, which is completely understandable, considering he is a strong Anti Arch and the cheapest Armor Master). I am trying to get Nobunaga, I am currently at 1600 medals, when I get 2300, I plan on buying him. Then I will train him to level 30 and upgrade him to ashigaru
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