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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Jul 28, 2021 13:45:12 GMT
As an anti-archer specialist? Catherine is a budget alternative to Yi but now Mulan exists and I would like to hear from him as well. However Mulan's early game ability might need us to replay the whole game. Mulan is certainly the better damage dealer but whether she possesses the survivability we need is still in question. BTW, I haven't heard of people talking about Blucher lately. Is he getting left out of the first team? The introduction of the artefacts seriously diminished Blucher's appeal in my eyes. For a CavCom team and assuming 2 commanders, beforehand he would've been everyone's top choice for the next slot but thinking about who will wield Gungnir, Saladin makes more sense now: they have comparable basic stats and his Armor Master is neutralised if you give him an artefact, so his appeal is reduced to Rumor & Plunder vs Saladin's Logistics & Shield for a purchase price of 3250 medals and much later availability. An artifact isn't really that important, IMO. A set of armor can be given to him in a Cav Com team, with other sets being given to Attila, Nobunaga, and (now) Suryothai. The rest can have purple equipment with an Artifact. Armor Master is ridiculously OP IMO, although super Expensive.
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Post by stoic on Jul 28, 2021 14:27:30 GMT
EW5 is a really amazing game with a great number of good and decent generals. Moreover they continue to add new ones (because awakened generals and their default counterparts are different indeed). I still believe that Catherine is stronger than awakened Mulan, because she's an archers' killer. I think they are more valuable. Besides, we don't need braveness to attack Infantry or cavalry. Of course, Mulan can attack archers too and completely without retaliation, but without additional bonuses against archers. She's probably a more versatile character than Catherine, but Catherine's damage against some Mythological archers is just amazing and these are the most formidable opponents we meet in the game. It was just a funny idea to use her, but I was really amazed by her overall utility in the game. As Iron Duke rightly pointed out we need time and real experience to make conclusions about Mulan. It is very difficult to judge generals in EW5 just by theoretical evaluation of their skills and talents. I made several mistakes in the past, and was proved to be wrong on several occasions... Mulan has 50% bonus against archers as well. Yeah, I recall there was an omission in the description of a talent. Anyway, I am planning to build my new team around awakened generals, so, likely I will use most of them on my current run.
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Post by Iron Duke on Jul 28, 2021 19:29:08 GMT
The introduction of the artefacts seriously diminished Blucher's appeal in my eyes. For a CavCom team and assuming 2 commanders, beforehand he would've been everyone's top choice for the next slot but thinking about who will wield Gungnir, Saladin makes more sense now: they have comparable basic stats and his Armor Master is neutralised if you give him an artefact, so his appeal is reduced to Rumor & Plunder vs Saladin's Logistics & Shield for a purchase price of 3250 medals and much later availability. Plus Saladin has better GR. It does seem like a CavCom specific issue though as ArchCom has Nobunaga, InfCom has Richard and/or Alex, and ArtyCom has Cleo. What about the other lineups? I mentioned CavCom because that is/was the one where he's most likely to feature. For the other lineups one has to ask how many cavalry slots will be available? If only one then most will choose Attila or a free general, and if two then it's most likely Attila+1. Three cavalry outside of CavCom is quite rare imo. If we consider that there are 4 "free" artefacts up for grabs and most teams will have 2-4 commanders that we don't want to equip with them, then we're back to the "is he worth the expense when giving up his active skill" question? Of course he will still make some teams, but I expect much less frequently than before.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jul 29, 2021 14:40:53 GMT
Plus Saladin has better GR. It does seem like a CavCom specific issue though as ArchCom has Nobunaga, InfCom has Richard and/or Alex, and ArtyCom has Cleo. What about the other lineups? I mentioned CavCom because that is/was the one where he's most likely to feature. For the other lineups one has to ask how many cavalry slots will be available? If only one then most will choose Attila or a free general, and if two then it's most likely Attila+1. Three cavalry outside of CavCom is quite rare imo. If we consider that there are 4 "free" artefacts up for grabs and most teams will have 2-4 commanders that we don't want to equip with them, then we're back to the "is he worth the expense when giving up his active skill" question? Of course he will still make some teams, but I expect much less frequently than before. I see. Blucher probably gets outweighed by Saladin due to price issues, but what about Attila? I don't see him as a good fit to non-CavCom since he's pretty squishy compared to Logistic/Plunder cavalry generals.
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Post by stoic on Jul 29, 2021 14:54:50 GMT
I mentioned CavCom because that is/was the one where he's most likely to feature. For the other lineups one has to ask how many cavalry slots will be available? If only one then most will choose Attila or a free general, and if two then it's most likely Attila+1. Three cavalry outside of CavCom is quite rare imo. If we consider that there are 4 "free" artefacts up for grabs and most teams will have 2-4 commanders that we don't want to equip with them, then we're back to the "is he worth the expense when giving up his active skill" question? Of course he will still make some teams, but I expect much less frequently than before. I see. Blucher probably gets outweighed by Saladin due to price issues, but what about Attila? I don't see him as a good fit to non-CavCom since he's pretty squishy compared to Logistic/Plunder cavalry generals. Attila has one valuable talent though - he can kill people before they can kill him
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jul 29, 2021 14:58:48 GMT
I see. Blucher probably gets outweighed by Saladin due to price issues, but what about Attila? I don't see him as a good fit to non-CavCom since he's pretty squishy compared to Logistic/Plunder cavalry generals. Attila has one valuable talent though - he can kill people before they can kill him However... why do you need Attila to do the killing job when you have a squad centered around the Coms?
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Post by stoic on Jul 29, 2021 15:01:29 GMT
Attila has one valuable talent though - he can kill people before they can kill him However... why do you need Attila to do the killing job when you have a squad centered around the Coms? No, I am just joking. I believe Blucher is the best possible candidate for ArchCom lineup if we put price aside...
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