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Post by General William T. Sherman on Feb 16, 2016 0:54:30 GMT
Done the other two, might as well throw in a who's worse here.
To be honest, heres a case where idk who's worse.
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Post by best75 on Feb 16, 2016 3:06:55 GMT
I heard much bad things about Mao so I will go with him.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Feb 16, 2016 3:09:16 GMT
To many issues between my country and Japan...
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Feb 16, 2016 3:55:27 GMT
Tojo did bomb Pearl Harbor, kill innocent chinese civilians and unarmed soldiers, but mao killed 80 million people during his reign over china due to hard labor and legalist policies. Then again, Tojo did help start WWII which caused 90 million deaths...im honestly not sure.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2016 5:32:02 GMT
Tojo did bomb Pearl Harbor, kill innocent chinese civilians and unarmed soldiers, but mao killed 80 million people during his reign over china due to hard labor and legalist policies. Then again, Tojo did help start WWII which caused 90 million deaths...im honestly not sure. Are you sirious Mao is pure evil!!! |
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Feb 16, 2016 5:37:01 GMT
Guys just please remember no salt, thanks  |
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Feb 16, 2016 11:26:08 GMT
The Light Bringer you must understand that Americans have something personal against Tojo for bombing Pearl Harbor. Mao never bombed Pearl Harbor. Not trying to start up an arguement, just explaining myself. Plus, Tojo ordered the killing of innocent civilians and unarmed soldiers, which is just inhumane even in times of war.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Feb 16, 2016 14:12:01 GMT
I pay no respect to the Japanese general who did inhuman things in China, obviously Tojo is one of them.
Mao is our leader, and he absolutely did two major mistakes(Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution were disasterous), but he is one of the founders of PRC, creator of the new thought that leads the new communism China moving forward. He is not perfect, he is not a good politician, but he created the important thoughts that influenced the communism China for over 60 years.
I am biased in this. But who will accept one of their greatest leader to be called pure evil?
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Feb 16, 2016 14:31:39 GMT
We need a lock before this escalates...
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Feb 16, 2016 14:40:54 GMT
I have to agree with Aurora on this, I'm sure every nation has a leader who did despicable things but people in that country still think he was good for the nation at least. Andrew Jackson, Vladimir Lenin and Francisco Franco to an extent all come to mind. It is a form of bias, but it makes sense why you would be biased to that leader.
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Post by Mountbatten on Feb 16, 2016 14:47:26 GMT
I have to agree with Aurora on this, I'm sure every nation has a leader who did despicable things but people in that country still think he was good for the nation at least. Andrew Jackson, Vladimir Lenin and Francisco Franco to an extent all come to mind. It is a form of bias, but it makes sense why you would be biased to that leader. Andrew Jackson definetely. |
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Post by Suvorov on Feb 16, 2016 15:31:31 GMT
Interesting poll... I was thinking of Tojo. The Japanese war crimes commited in Nanking and through out the whole war with China were horrendous: The "comfort women", the racial views on Chinese etc. Etc. Etc.
Mao Zedong: He managed to keep the Communist army intact, agreed with the Hunderd Regiment offensive (very succesful), modernised China, treated farmers better than the corrupt government of Generalissimo Chang Kai-Shek and other things but we are now getting too much into detail. In contrast to this, we have the Great Leap Forward, Cultural Revolution and mass Starvation, but the whole point is that Tojo's treatment of the Chinese were horrendous but they did not serve any purpose.
Tojo treated Chinese as less than Untermenschen. Chinese were compared with pigs and other not so nice things. Great Leap forward did serve a purpose and this may sound harsh but I think that killing millions of people for no purpose is the worst of all things you can imagine. Tojo it is.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2016 5:55:54 GMT
Interesting poll... I was thinking of Tojo. The Japanese war crimes commited in Nanking and through out the whole war with China were horrendous: The "comfort women", the racial views on Chinese etc. Etc. Etc. Mao Zedong: He managed to keep the Communist army intact, agreed with the Hunderd Regiment offensive (very succesful), modernised China, treated farmers better than the corrupt government of Generalissimo Chang Kai-Shek and other things but we are now getting too much into detail. In contrast to this, we have the Great Leap Forward, Cultural Revolution and mass Starvation, but the whole point is that Tojo's treatment of the Chinese were horrendous but they did not serve any purpose. Tojo treated Chinese as less than Untermenschen. Chinese were compared with pigs and other not so nice things. Great Leap forward did serve a purpose and this may sound harsh but I think that killing millions of people for no purpose is the worst of all things you can imagine. Tojo it is. Let me remind that Japanese didn't know how soldier can give up. Their codex still was like samurais: win or die |
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Feb 17, 2016 11:36:48 GMT
Interesting poll... I was thinking of Tojo. The Japanese war crimes commited in Nanking and through out the whole war with China were horrendous: The "comfort women", the racial views on Chinese etc. Etc. Etc. Mao Zedong: He managed to keep the Communist army intact, agreed with the Hunderd Regiment offensive (very succesful), modernised China, treated farmers better than the corrupt government of Generalissimo Chang Kai-Shek and other things but we are now getting too much into detail. In contrast to this, we have the Great Leap Forward, Cultural Revolution and mass Starvation, but the whole point is that Tojo's treatment of the Chinese were horrendous but they did not serve any purpose. Tojo treated Chinese as less than Untermenschen. Chinese were compared with pigs and other not so nice things. Great Leap forward did serve a purpose and this may sound harsh but I think that killing millions of people for no purpose is the worst of all things you can imagine. Tojo it is. Let me remind that Japanese didn't know how soldier can give up. Their codex still was like samurais: win or die That's correct, but that still doesn't justify the raping of civilians, massacres, human experiments and othe war crimes. I mean the Japanese committed the Rape of Nanking, Pearl Harbor and the Bataan Death March. None of those could even slightly be justified using "The Japanese never knew how to give up" |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2016 19:07:56 GMT
General William T. Sherman You forget that it was war and in war nobody does anything as rules say, even not americans(even ams did some war crimes for example Vietnam and Nagasaki and Hirosima)
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