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Post by Thortilla on Jul 25, 2021 1:59:19 GMT
okay. according to me. I'm very bad so when I started the game again I thought I would get stuck in Mongolia Invasion (means I need Nobunaga) or In Sword of Allah (means I need Li Shimin) as I managed to get to the Dynasty Prosperity, Battle campaign of Baijiangkou without Stoking in any Campaign (including Extra levels)... ... in 5 days. How? I do not know. And I have not completed it because I have not tried. So now the million dollar question. Nobunaga or Li shimin? I have 3700 medals so I think that tomorrow it will no longer be a doubt since I will have enough to buy them both. But while I feel like Nobunaga would be the best option since I'm tired of Montezuma in era 2 (I refuse to level up), Li Shimin is also a good option because I'm tired of using Alexander as a battering ram And because Ultimate Unity is very Hard and I know I'm going to need Artillery (I'm not even close to getting there and I'm already worried about that mission ... why? Because I have nightmares of Yoshitune and Nobunaga in Discovery Age when my generals are almost dead) |
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Post by stoic on Jul 25, 2021 2:32:45 GMT
I don't know whether your other generals are good enough or not, but my suspicions you hesitate to invest in them. And that is probably a root of your problems.
Your first goal should be to get as many medals per day as possible. That means to unlock daily missions and to win battles in Mythology mode. You can't do this with only one or two powerful generals. So, don't wait for an unknown future when you could deploy best generals. Live here and now. We have excellent free or coin generals - Hannibal, Khalid, Cleo, Mocte, Alexander etc. Don't be shy to invest into their skills and ranks. It is not a waste because you will need them in different modes of the game anyway. Just buying Nobunaga or LiShimin won't solve your problems for long. You need a capable team to move on... EW5 is one of the most difficult games I ever played, so be prepared that there will be many challenges ahead...
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Post by Thortilla on Jul 25, 2021 2:49:06 GMT
I don't know whether your other generals are good enough or not, but my suspicions you hesitate to invest in them. And that is probably a root of your problems. Your first goal should be to get as many medals per day as possible. That means to unlock daily missions and to win battles in Mythology mode. You can't do this with only one or two powerful generals. So, don't wait for an unknown future when you could deploy best generals. Live here and now. We have excellent free or coin generals - Hannibal, Khalid, Cleo, Mocte, Alexander etc. Don't be shy to invest into their skills and ranks. It is not a waste because you will need them in different modes of the game anyway. Just buying Nobunaga or LiShimin won't solve your problems for long. You need a capable team to move on... EW5 is one of the most difficult games I ever played, so be prepared that there will be many challenges ahead... I think I did not explain well no that I have already solved I have all the generals of bad rank. (some) the thing is that I need a Good General of Artillery and Archery (obviously I will end up buying both) the thing is that I want to buy one of the 2 (since Caesar is a bit unnecessary having Barbarrosa and Alexander) and about I've already "passed" the game (not 100% but 80%) |
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Post by stoic on Jul 25, 2021 6:37:35 GMT
I don't know whether your other generals are good enough or not, but my suspicions you hesitate to invest in them. And that is probably a root of your problems. Your first goal should be to get as many medals per day as possible. That means to unlock daily missions and to win battles in Mythology mode. You can't do this with only one or two powerful generals. So, don't wait for an unknown future when you could deploy best generals. Live here and now. We have excellent free or coin generals - Hannibal, Khalid, Cleo, Mocte, Alexander etc. Don't be shy to invest into their skills and ranks. It is not a waste because you will need them in different modes of the game anyway. Just buying Nobunaga or LiShimin won't solve your problems for long. You need a capable team to move on... EW5 is one of the most difficult games I ever played, so be prepared that there will be many challenges ahead... I think I did not explain well no that I have already solved I have all the generals of bad rank. (some) the thing is that I need a Good General of Artillery and Archery (obviously I will end up buying both) the thing is that I want to buy one of the 2 (since Caesar is a bit unnecessary having Barbarrosa and Alexander) and about I've already "passed" the game (not 100% but 80%) In this case Nobunaga is a priority. You can replace (with some success I would say) LiShimin with Khalid or Cleo, but you can't replace Nobunaga with free archers. Though gold Pachacuti is definitely top tier, when available... |
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Post by gczx on Jul 25, 2021 13:17:27 GMT
I don't know whether your other generals are good enough or not, but my suspicions you hesitate to invest in them. And that is probably a root of your problems. Your first goal should be to get as many medals per day as possible. That means to unlock daily missions and to win battles in Mythology mode. You can't do this with only one or two powerful generals. So, don't wait for an unknown future when you could deploy best generals. Live here and now. We have excellent free or coin generals - Hannibal, Khalid, Cleo, Mocte, Alexander etc. Don't be shy to invest into their skills and ranks. It is not a waste because you will need them in different modes of the game anyway. Just buying Nobunaga or LiShimin won't solve your problems for long. You need a capable team to move on... EW5 is one of the most difficult games I ever played, so be prepared that there will be many challenges ahead... I really needed someone to tell me this lol, I'm empire age, I have 10x 3* (which is a mistake) but what's more of a mistake is NON of them is past level 1 skill level  (hannibal Braveness was tempting so it was the only lvl 3 skill) currently 3000 medals...
I'm not totally useless at this point because I manged recourses a little bit tough.. but it really pains me to lose some invades because of the stupid AI..
thanks to two posts I read today I started to think that I should use the load feature to experment with the best usage for medals and it's porbably investing in nobunaga skills is the best option >> saladin's skills when I get him, I do have alex and barbarossa, but I feel infentary are just useless meatshield
only thing left is Attila (based on forum advices) only problem is that he would cost up to 4000-5000 medals in order to be useful and I don't currently have him, LiShimin is nice and all, BUT celopatra carried me a huge deal, if only walls she's facing that is  |
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Post by stoic on Jul 25, 2021 17:14:56 GMT
I don't know whether your other generals are good enough or not, but my suspicions you hesitate to invest in them. And that is probably a root of your problems. Your first goal should be to get as many medals per day as possible. That means to unlock daily missions and to win battles in Mythology mode. You can't do this with only one or two powerful generals. So, don't wait for an unknown future when you could deploy best generals. Live here and now. We have excellent free or coin generals - Hannibal, Khalid, Cleo, Mocte, Alexander etc. Don't be shy to invest into their skills and ranks. It is not a waste because you will need them in different modes of the game anyway. Just buying Nobunaga or LiShimin won't solve your problems for long. You need a capable team to move on... EW5 is one of the most difficult games I ever played, so be prepared that there will be many challenges ahead... I really needed someone to tell me this lol, I'm empire age, I have 10x 3* (which is a mistake) but what's more of a mistake is NON of them is past level 1 skill level (hannibal Braveness was tempting so it was the only lvl 3 skill) currently 3000 medals...
I'm not totally useless at this point because I manged recourses a little bit tough.. but it really pains me to lose some invades because of the stupid AI..
thanks to two posts I read today I started to think that I should use the load feature to experment with the best usage for medals and it's porbably investing in nobunaga skills is the best option >> saladin's skills when I get him, I do have alex and barbarossa, but I feel infentary are just useless meatshield
only thing left is Attila (based on forum advices) only problem is that he would cost up to 4000-5000 medals in order to be useful and I don't currently have him, LiShimin is nice and all, BUT celopatra carried me a huge deal, if only walls she's facing that is Infantry is not useless... My first run was with 3 Infantry generals and then Iron Duke completed the game with a predominantly Infantry team. Moreover Infantry generals refill their rage-bar faster than archer generals. But, all in all, it is comparatively difficult to use Infantry, if we are not building up our team around it. Cavalry and archers are easy-to-use in some sense in comparison to Infantry, but each branch has its pros and cons, I would say... But all these theoretical things are of secondary importance to you. The most important thing you have to keep in mind is that one general with upgraded skills is equal or better than 2 generals without such upgrades. Leadership and Commander skills will lead your team to another demension of the game... Bravery, Spy and Rumour are other examples of excellent and helpful skills. You don't just waste your medals, you invest them, and soon enough you will cover all your previous losses. |
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Post by Iron Duke on Jul 25, 2021 19:13:45 GMT
I really needed someone to tell me this lol, I'm empire age, I have 10x 3* (which is a mistake) but what's more of a mistake is NON of them is past level 1 skill level (hannibal Braveness was tempting so it was the only lvl 3 skill) currently 3000 medals...
I'm not totally useless at this point because I manged recourses a little bit tough.. but it really pains me to lose some invades because of the stupid AI..
thanks to two posts I read today I started to think that I should use the load feature to experment with the best usage for medals and it's porbably investing in nobunaga skills is the best option >> saladin's skills when I get him, I do have alex and barbarossa, but I feel infentary are just useless meatshield
only thing left is Attila (based on forum advices) only problem is that he would cost up to 4000-5000 medals in order to be useful and I don't currently have him, LiShimin is nice and all, BUT celopatra carried me a huge deal, if only walls she's facing that is Infantry is not useless... My first run was with 3 Infantry generals and then Iron Duke completed the game with a predominantly Infantry team. Moreover Infantry generals refill their rage-bar faster than archer generals. But, all in all, it is comparatively difficult to use Infantry, if we are not building up our team around it. Cavalry and archers are easy-to-use in some sense in comparison to Infantry, but each branch has its pros and cons, I would say... But all these theoretical things are of secondary importance to you. The most important thing you have to keep in mind is that one general with upgraded skills is equal or better than 2 generals without such upgrades. Leadership and Commander skills will lead your team to another demension of the game... Bravery, Spy and Rumour are other examples of excellent and helpful skills. You don't just waste your medals, you invest them, and soon enough you will cover all your previous losses. I wasn't a fan of infantry until my InfCom game, but I have to say that the triumvirate of Barbarossa, Caesar & Richard is a very strong cohort indeed, and with the rage boost they're a lot easier to play with now too. |
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Post by gczx on Jul 25, 2021 20:46:18 GMT
I really needed someone to tell me this lol, I'm empire age, I have 10x 3* (which is a mistake) but what's more of a mistake is NON of them is past level 1 skill level (hannibal Braveness was tempting so it was the only lvl 3 skill) currently 3000 medals...
I'm not totally useless at this point because I manged recourses a little bit tough.. but it really pains me to lose some invades because of the stupid AI..
thanks to two posts I read today I started to think that I should use the load feature to experment with the best usage for medals and it's porbably investing in nobunaga skills is the best option >> saladin's skills when I get him, I do have alex and barbarossa, but I feel infentary are just useless meatshield
only thing left is Attila (based on forum advices) only problem is that he would cost up to 4000-5000 medals in order to be useful and I don't currently have him, LiShimin is nice and all, BUT celopatra carried me a huge deal, if only walls she's facing that is Infantry is not useless... My first run was with 3 Infantry generals and then Iron Duke completed the game with a predominantly Infantry team. Moreover Infantry generals refill their rage-bar faster than archer generals. But, all in all, it is comparatively difficult to use Infantry, if we are not building up our team around it. Cavalry and archers are easy-to-use in some sense in comparison to Infantry, but each branch has its pros and cons, I would say... But all these theoretical things are of secondary importance to you. The most important thing you have to keep in mind is that one general with upgraded skills is equal or better than 2 generals without such upgrades. Leadership and Commander skills will lead your team to another demension of the game... Bravery, Spy and Rumour are other examples of excellent and helpful skills. You don't just waste your medals, you invest them, and soon enough you will cover all your previous losses. thank you for the insight, one qustion though regarding the best invest right now (to get farming medal going and progress faster in Mythology I just beat Odin's *Auto corrected* and love the reward) I upgraded my nobunage spy (6), leadership (6).. I have 3k medals exactly..
I'd love to play commander archer much easier for the first time game, I have nobunage, robinhood (useless but usable), Moctezuma, Pachacuti
my options are: 1. lvl 10 leadership nobunage + lvl 10 cure master Moctezuma since I don't plan on using ceaser. consumes every medal I have 2. Pachacuti archcom lvl 6(I don't like this guy at all he is rather slow filling rage with no stats to survive), nobuonage lvl 6, and Moctezuma lvl 6. with this I will have spare 1900 medals for saladin/lincoin (I'm doing both at the same time) logstics for conquest farming.
I think the first will get me a good outcome but will it be enough? second is probably for the best when it comes to efficiency right (?)
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Post by stoic on Jul 26, 2021 3:41:28 GMT
Infantry is not useless... My first run was with 3 Infantry generals and then Iron Duke completed the game with a predominantly Infantry team. Moreover Infantry generals refill their rage-bar faster than archer generals. But, all in all, it is comparatively difficult to use Infantry, if we are not building up our team around it. Cavalry and archers are easy-to-use in some sense in comparison to Infantry, but each branch has its pros and cons, I would say... But all these theoretical things are of secondary importance to you. The most important thing you have to keep in mind is that one general with upgraded skills is equal or better than 2 generals without such upgrades. Leadership and Commander skills will lead your team to another demension of the game... Bravery, Spy and Rumour are other examples of excellent and helpful skills. You don't just waste your medals, you invest them, and soon enough you will cover all your previous losses. thank you for the insight, one qustion though regarding the best invest right now (to get farming medal going and progress faster in Mythology I just beat Odin's *Auto corrected* and love the reward) I upgraded my nobunage spy (6), leadership (6).. I have 3k medals exactly..
I'd love to play commander archer much easier for the first time game, I have nobunage, robinhood (useless but usable), Moctezuma, Pachacuti
my options are: 1. lvl 10 leadership nobunage + lvl 10 cure master Moctezuma since I don't plan on using ceaser. consumes every medal I have 2. Pachacuti archcom lvl 6(I don't like this guy at all he is rather slow filling rage with no stats to survive), nobuonage lvl 6, and Moctezuma lvl 6. with this I will have spare 1900 medals for saladin/lincoin (I'm doing both at the same time) logstics for conquest farming.
I think the first will get me a good outcome but will it be enough? second is probably for the best when it comes to efficiency right (?)
Pachacuti is indeed a weak general in his default form. But: 1. It is a long-term project. 2. You don't have other Arch Commanders right now. 3. He is a grey general and that means his upgrades are relatively cheap. So, I would recommend to upgrade both of his skills. He still will be vulnerable in AI-controlled battles, but in campaigns and Empire battles he will be of great help. His main purpose so far is to increase the overall damage of Nobunaga. Nobunaga with 6 Leadership and Spy is fine for now, but later lvl 10 is a must. He doesn't need his first skill since he's one of the best to be equipped with Gungnir, and leadership and spy are relatively cheap skills, so do it as soon as possible. Mocte is a very reliable archer. His leadership again is cheap since he is a blue tier general. But Cure master isn't cheap. The overall cost is twice as low as Caesar's, but still high in comparison to other skills. Yet, the most expensive upgrades are levels 9 and 10. So you could upgrade his Cure master up to level 8. Saladin is a very good general. His attack is high, cavalry has mobility and he, thus, will be really helpful everywhere. But Lincoln, on the other hand, isn't brilliant, because his basic attack is low and most of the time he won't be able to make any use of Logistics. I wouldn't recommend to use him. |
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Post by gczx on Jul 26, 2021 3:55:41 GMT
thank you for the insight, one qustion though regarding the best invest right now (to get farming medal going and progress faster in Mythology I just beat Odin's *Auto corrected* and love the reward) I upgraded my nobunage spy (6), leadership (6).. I have 3k medals exactly..
I'd love to play commander archer much easier for the first time game, I have nobunage, robinhood (useless but usable), Moctezuma, Pachacuti
my options are: 1. lvl 10 leadership nobunage + lvl 10 cure master Moctezuma since I don't plan on using ceaser. consumes every medal I have 2. Pachacuti archcom lvl 6(I don't like this guy at all he is rather slow filling rage with no stats to survive), nobuonage lvl 6, and Moctezuma lvl 6. with this I will have spare 1900 medals for saladin/lincoin (I'm doing both at the same time) logstics for conquest farming.
I think the first will get me a good outcome but will it be enough? second is probably for the best when it comes to efficiency right (?)
Pachacuti is indeed a weak general in his default form. But: 1. It is a long-term project. 2. You don't have other Arch Commanders right now. 3. He is a grey general and that means his upgrades are relatively cheap. So, I would recommend to upgrade both of his skills. He still will be vulnerable in AI-controlled battles, but in campaigns and Empire battles he will be of great help. His main purpose so far is to increase the overall damage of Nobunaga. Nobunaga with 6 Leadership and Spy is fine for now, but later lvl 10 is a must. He doesn't need his first skill since he's one of the best to be equipped with Gungnir, and leadership and spy are relatively cheap skills, so do it as soon as possible. Mocte is a very reliable archer. His leadership again is cheap since he is a blue tier general. But Cure master isn't cheap. The overall cost is twice as low as Caesar's, but still high in comparison to other skills. Yet, the most expensive upgrades are levels 9 and 10. So you could upgrade his Cure master up to level 8. Saladin is a very good general. His attack is high, cavalry has mobility and he, thus, will be really helpful everywhere. But Lincoln, on the other hand, isn't brilliant, because his basic attack is low and most of the time he won't be able to make any use of Logistics. I wouldn't recommend to use him. thank you very much |
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(hannibal Braveness was tempting so it was the only lvl 3 skill) currently 3000 medals...
