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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Sept 21, 2021 16:36:38 GMT
Me, who hasn't been able to find a good history Channel and gets all of their history knowledge from the library: How nice. My school library didn't have any of it School libraries are pure rubbish. |
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Post by 𝓐𝓲𝓼𝓪𝓴𝓪 on Sept 21, 2021 21:10:23 GMT
How nice. My school library didn't have any of it School libraries are pure rubbish. And teachers say “wIkIpEdia iS nOt A rIaBiE sOuRcE” |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Sept 21, 2021 22:04:01 GMT
How nice. My school library didn't have any of it School libraries are pure rubbish. Edit: Schools in general. One does much better when self-taught. |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Sept 22, 2021 11:14:26 GMT
School libraries are pure rubbish. Edit: Schools in general. One does much better when self-taught. Depends on the school, not sure about USA but Finland's schools are great...but libraries rubbish. |
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Post by John Marston on Sept 22, 2021 16:14:05 GMT
School libraries are pure rubbish. Edit: Schools in general. One does much better when self-taught. That's true, until you struggle to find a proper job |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Sept 22, 2021 16:24:22 GMT
Edit: Schools in general. One does much better when self-taught. That's true, until you struggle to find a proper job Of course I recommend school because society values it in career opportunities, I just think that learning by yourself or with the help of a parent is better education. |
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Post by stoic on Sept 23, 2021 18:08:11 GMT
Modern day Psychology and Pedagogy see a so called "zone of proximal development" as an aim for formal education. And a general consensus is that it is very difficult to achieve when you study something alone.
On the other hand, I see a couple of serious problems in a contemporary formal education.
1. It completely neglects questions of motivation. Motivation is a huge factor in education, but neither teachers know how to motivate students, nor students know how to motivate themselves.
2. Many modern scientific theories don't have any access to schools or universities. For example, even such brilliant linguists as Stephen Krashen or James J. Asher had failed in their lifelong attempt to change a general approach to foreign/second language studies.
3. Modern students don't know anything about planning and strategy. They are unable to set goals and to achieve them, to separate essential from non-essential, because no-one directed their attention to these questions before.
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Post by stoic on Sept 23, 2021 18:14:59 GMT
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Post by John Marston on Sept 24, 2021 15:57:32 GMT
Modern day Psychology and Pedagogy see a so called "zone of proximal development" as an aim for formal education. And a general consensus is that it is very difficult to achieve when you study something alone. On the other hand, I see a couple of serious problems in a contemporary formal education. 1. It completely neglects questions of motivation. Motivation is a huge factor in education, but neither teachers know how to motivate students, nor students know how to motivate themselves. 2. Many modern scientific theories don't have any access to schools or universities. For example, even such brilliant linguists as Stephen Krashen or James J. Asher had failed in their lifelong attempt to change a general approach to foreign/second language studies. 3. Modern students don't know anything about planning and strategy. They are unable to set goals and to achieve them, to separate essential from non-essential, because no-one directed their attention to these questions before. I don't really think self learning is worse than formal studying. I've self learnt all of the historical knowledge I know and not showing off, but no one I know has even a fraction of the historical knowledge I have (Though due credits should be given to ET too  ) And you are true regarding motivation. I almost cracked under stress from education recently. It almost turned into fear. Fortunately, I had the guts to say I was struggling mentally in studies and my parents excellent support, coupled with cooperative lectures instilled in me some motivation. In my opinion, people in general today, lack common sense. Common sense goes a long way in helping you out in your life and is highly useful while studying. A little bit common sense gives you clarity on simple things like Mass is directly proportional to density...etc. If you lack it, then either you have to derive that thing (If you are not sure) or by heart it, both of which or toiling. |
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Post by stoic on Sept 24, 2021 16:04:42 GMT
Modern day Psychology and Pedagogy see a so called "zone of proximal development" as an aim for formal education. And a general consensus is that it is very difficult to achieve when you study something alone. On the other hand, I see a couple of serious problems in a contemporary formal education. 1. It completely neglects questions of motivation. Motivation is a huge factor in education, but neither teachers know how to motivate students, nor students know how to motivate themselves. 2. Many modern scientific theories don't have any access to schools or universities. For example, even such brilliant linguists as Stephen Krashen or James J. Asher had failed in their lifelong attempt to change a general approach to foreign/second language studies. 3. Modern students don't know anything about planning and strategy. They are unable to set goals and to achieve them, to separate essential from non-essential, because no-one directed their attention to these questions before. I don't really think self learning is worse than formal studying. I've self learnt all of the historical knowledge I know and not showing off, but no one I know has even a fraction of the historical knowledge I have (Though due credits should be given to ET too ) And you are true regarding motivation. I almost cracked under stress from education recently. It almost turned into fear. Fortunately, I had the guts to say I was struggling mentally in studies and my parents excellent support, coupled with cooperative lectures instilled in me some motivation. In my opinion, people in general today, lack common sense. Common sense goes a long way in helping you out in your life and is highly useful while studying. A little bit common sense gives you clarity on simple things like Mass is directly proportional to density...etc. If you lack it, then either you have to derive that thing (If you are not sure) or by heart it, both of which or toiling. For sure, common sense is always a good thing |
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