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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Sept 23, 2021 12:37:07 GMT
In this, I will lay out who I think should have been added to the group of IAPs: Goering. "But wasn't he an absolute nincompoop?" Yes, but we are going to do this to assist in Gameplay, not necessarily history. And also, if you study deep into the history of the Luftwaffe, you will actually find out that he was quite brilliant, merely hedonistic and lacking of self-control in his later years. In short, yet another amazing German commander who was despicable. He will get two premium skills, considering that they are significantly worse than other folks'. Anyway, Here we go:
Stars:
1 star Tanks, Inf, Artillery: Really just there to be there, makes him look nicer, gives him some bonus output.
4 star movement: This is there to help with him being specialized on the worst two tendencies in the game.
5 star air: He was the head of the Luftwaffe, the foremost air force seen in the world in one place.
Skills:
Aviation Fuel: Aviation Range +2. - Again, Luftwaffe
Logistics Master: HP +8 and all within two spaces. - The Stalingrad airlift (despite that failing, he did manage to give a lot more than he thought he could), general Luftwaffeness, mostly gameplay
Economic Master: The economic output of Buildings +6 and all within two spaces. - The greatest economist of his time, seriously, his economic plans were absolutely genius.
Tell me if you disagree, and what you would change! Remember, this is supposed to be gameplay-oriented with just enough history to make it passable.
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Post by 6Johnny23 on Sept 23, 2021 12:48:03 GMT
In this, I will lay out who I think should have been added to the group of IAPs: Goering. "But wasn't he an absolute nincompoop?" Yes, but we are going to do this to assist in Gameplay, not necessarily history. And also, if you study deep into the history of the Luftwaffe, you will actually find out that he was quite brilliant, merely hedonistic and lacking of self-control in his later years. In short, yet another amazing German commander who was despicable. He will get two premium skills, considering that they are significantly worse than other folks'. Anyway, Here we go: Stars: 1 star Tanks, Inf, Artillery: Really just there to be there, makes him look nicer, gives him some bonus output. 4 star movement: This is there to help with him being specialized on the worst two tendencies in the game. 5 star air: He was the head of the Luftwaffe, the foremost air force seen in the world in one place. Skills: Aviation Fuel: Aviation Range +2. - Again, Luftwaffe Logistics Master: HP +8 and all within two spaces. - The Stalingrad airlift (despite that failing, he did manage to give a lot more than he thought he could), general Luftwaffeness, mostly gameplay Economic Master: The economic output of Buildings +6 and all within two spaces. - The greatest economist of his time, seriously, his economic plans were absolutely genius. Tell me if you disagree, and what you would change! Remember, this is supposed to be gameplay-oriented with just enough history to make it passable. I honestly think I should be Dowding, he already has the 5*s and was one of the discount generals in WC4. Goering hasn't made an appearance since WC3. Also, all IAPs were the only ones with aura for their unit. Keep his stars and have Yamamoto's skillset. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Sept 23, 2021 12:52:28 GMT
In this, I will lay out who I think should have been added to the group of IAPs: Goering. "But wasn't he an absolute nincompoop?" Yes, but we are going to do this to assist in Gameplay, not necessarily history. And also, if you study deep into the history of the Luftwaffe, you will actually find out that he was quite brilliant, merely hedonistic and lacking of self-control in his later years. In short, yet another amazing German commander who was despicable. He will get two premium skills, considering that they are significantly worse than other folks'. Anyway, Here we go: Stars: 1 star Tanks, Inf, Artillery: Really just there to be there, makes him look nicer, gives him some bonus output. 4 star movement: This is there to help with him being specialized on the worst two tendencies in the game. 5 star air: He was the head of the Luftwaffe, the foremost air force seen in the world in one place. Skills: Aviation Fuel: Aviation Range +2. - Again, Luftwaffe Logistics Master: HP +8 and all within two spaces. - The Stalingrad airlift (despite that failing, he did manage to give a lot more than he thought he could), general Luftwaffeness, mostly gameplay Economic Master: The economic output of Buildings +6 and all within two spaces. - The greatest economist of his time, seriously, his economic plans were absolutely genius. Tell me if you disagree, and what you would change! Remember, this is supposed to be gameplay-oriented with just enough history to make it passable. I honestly think I should be Dowding, he already has the 5*s and was one of the discount generals in WC4. Goering hasn't made an appearance since WC3. Also, all IAPs were the only ones with aura for their unit. Keep his stars and have Yamamoto's skillset. Eh, I was just thinking that he, Ike, and Zhukov were the Marshalls for GOG Classic. I don't think that either Dowding (Head of FIGHTER Command by Golly) can get Dive Bombing or Carpet Bombing. I would honestly give Dowding his stars, AFC, Aviation Fuel, and Econ. That would be one heck of a general. |
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Post by Lucklife on Sept 23, 2021 15:28:01 GMT
I'm not too sure about Log Master, 8hp seems quite little for army units, and doesn't quite fit in with his profile as an Air General. Wouldn't airport cluster be better for him?
You also mentioned that he did good work at stalingrad, would carpet bombing support that?
Although, that would really come close to Johnny's post that he be a better yamamoto.
Perhaps a 5 star yamamoto without dive bombing, but with econ?
i think perhaps movement is slightly unecessary, since an airport general would most probably parachute out of danger's way. Perhaps lowering it to 2 star movement, but 3 star infantry would make more pragmatic?
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Sept 23, 2021 16:14:40 GMT
I'm not too sure about Log Master, 8hp seems quite little for army units, and doesn't quite fit in with his profile as an Air General. Wouldn't airport cluster be better for him? You also mentioned that he did good work at stalingrad, would carpet bombing support that? Although, that would really come close to Johnny's post that he be a better yamamoto. Perhaps a 5 star yamamoto without dive bombing, but with econ? i think perhaps movement is slightly unecessary, since an airport general would most probably parachute out of danger's way. Perhaps lowering it to 2 star movement, but 3 star infantry would make more pragmatic? I really just think he would be a good bonuserer for other units, what with Econ and Such. I suppose he would be good with AFC. Oh, no, he was a failure at carpet bombing London. Yes the movement is unnecessary, but it is still awesome.  |
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Post by 曹操 on Sept 24, 2021 5:02:34 GMT
How bout Mac? He is great. But since USA,GERMANY, AND USSR place has been taken it means only Japan and UK are the one left for IAP. For UK, i'll suggest Dowding/Monty. For Japan it will be Yamashita/Terauchi
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Sept 24, 2021 12:05:51 GMT
How bout Mac? He is great. But since USA,GERMANY, AND USSR place has been taken it means only Japan and UK are the one left for IAP. For UK, i'll suggest Dowding/Monty. For Japan it will be Yamashita/Terauchi Whaddabout Nagano, or Yamamoto? |
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Post by 6Johnny23 on Sept 24, 2021 12:44:52 GMT
How bout Mac? He is great. But since USA,GERMANY, AND USSR place has been taken it means only Japan and UK are the one left for IAP. For UK, i'll suggest Dowding/Monty. For Japan it will be Yamashita/Terauchi Whaddabout Nagano, or Yamamoto? Assuming you think Nagumo, he is overshadowed in the navy by his much more famous coworker Yamamoto, and Yamamoto lies along with Yamashita as the most famous Japanese WW2 generals/admirals. |
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Post by 6Johnny23 on Sept 24, 2021 12:46:38 GMT
I do see having Yamamoto as an IAP as more viable than Yamashita destroying the "Ike and Zhukov" tradition, but that (Yamamoto) would get in the place of Goering.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Sept 24, 2021 12:54:17 GMT
Whaddabout Nagano, or Yamamoto? Assuming you think Nagumo, he is overshadowed in the navy by his much more famous coworker Yamamoto, and Yamamoto lies along with Yamashita as the most famous Japanese WW2 generals/admirals. No, I mean Osami Nagano, the Marshall in GOG Classic, only great navy gen worth their price in WC3, and commander of the entire Japanese Navy. |
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Post by 曹操 on Sept 24, 2021 13:11:38 GMT
Assuming you think Nagumo, he is overshadowed in the navy by his much more famous coworker Yamamoto, and Yamamoto lies along with Yamashita as the most famous Japanese WW2 generals/admirals. No, I mean Osami Nagano, the Marshall in GOG Classic, only great navy gen worth their price in WC3, and commander of the entire Japanese Navy. But he is not really famous compared too Yamamoto (For Pearl Harbour), Yamashita (Malayan Tiger), and lastly Nagumo (Commmander of Kido Butai) |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Sept 24, 2021 14:09:22 GMT
No, I mean Osami Nagano, the Marshall in GOG Classic, only great navy gen worth their price in WC3, and commander of the entire Japanese Navy. But he is not really famous compared too Yamamoto (For Pearl Harbour), Yamashita (Malayan Tiger), and lastly Nagumo (Commmander of Kido Butai) Apparently ET thinks he is famous, though, which is why he would be the IAP. |
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Post by John Marston on Sept 24, 2021 16:21:15 GMT
But he is not really famous compared too Yamamoto (For Pearl Harbour), Yamashita (Malayan Tiger), and lastly Nagumo (Commmander of Kido Butai) Apparently ET thinks he is famous, though, which is why he would be the IAP. Hahaha...aren't you underestimating ET?  I think the fourth IAP would be Donitz. Give him 5 stars in navy + his current skills. Or alternatively, get him 3 star artillery/tank, 2 star air and replace one of his skills with econ master. |
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Post by 曹操 on Sept 24, 2021 23:17:52 GMT
Apparently ET thinks he is famous, though, which is why he would be the IAP. Hahaha...aren't you underestimating ET? I think the fourth IAP would be Donitz. Give him 5 stars in navy + his current skills. Or alternatively, get him 3 star artillery/tank, 2 star air and replace one of his skills with econ master. Manstein have take the position as IAP for Germany tho. also why Econ master? |
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Post by John Marston on Sept 25, 2021 15:14:58 GMT
Hahaha...aren't you underestimating ET? I think the fourth IAP would be Donitz. Give him 5 stars in navy + his current skills. Or alternatively, get him 3 star artillery/tank, 2 star air and replace one of his skills with econ master. Manstein have take the position as IAP for Germany tho. also why Econ master? Econ master so as to increase his usability on land |
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