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Post by Darth Nihilus on Sept 28, 2021 15:00:17 GMT
I think when doing RPs we have to perform reality checks on our attacks, so I listed a few:
1. The most effective anti-air artilleries only ended up destroying about 35% of all targets encountered, and that was the US artilleries against kamikaze pilots. I'd say a normal range should be around 10% or so.
2. The max speed of tanks was about 40 km/h, which results in about 200 km of travel per day. Infantry can probably travel around 10 km/h on average (160 km a day if you don't rest at all), and ships can travel about 65 km/h (and a long enough range that you don't have to worry about refuelling)
3. It took about 9 years to build the Maginot Line in France, which had about 5000 forts that spanned 450 km. That's about 1.5 forts per day or about 150 m worth of forts.
4. Fighters can probably fly about 500 km/h, and bombers can probably fly around 300 km/h. The max range of these planes was about 1000 km one way (500 for a round-trip)
5. During the battle of Stalingrad, which was one of the most vicious battles of WW2, about 12 000 people died every day. That's about 1 division every day. You shouldn't be able to destroy 15 or even 5 of someone else's divisions within 24 hours (unless they are encircled and they surrender, of course)
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Post by Captain on Sept 28, 2021 15:58:47 GMT
Our artillery is still inside Leningrad, and we have a ton of anti-aircraft guns (as I said earlier). So you end up losing most of your fighters and bombers (62 and 75). After doing moderate damage to the German fortifications, we aim our artillery at the oncoming tanks and issue extreme casualties to the German attack. Our navy barrage decimates the attack. Our units ditch Kingisepp and establish front lines at Gatchina and Kirishi. We build trenches, advanced anti-air batteries, anti-tank mines, land forts, and move our fleet to Kotlin island so we can offer artillery support to Gatchina. Our infantry units are engaged in brutal close range and hand-to-hand combat with the Germans. The German artillery, focused on firing on us, causes heavy infantry casualties on both the Germans and the Soviets. The Germans lose an additional 16 divisions. If I go down, I'm taking the Germans with me. Overall losses (USSR):         German:                 - 155 tanks                 - 28 tanks     - 33 divisions               - 28 divisions Wait where did you say that(you are building anti air guns) Remember in such case you can't edit your previous post And I already mentioned I have the fortifications far from leningard(say 7km) then how your artillery can fire those fortifications by remaining inside leningard And I mentioned mine bombers and fighter aircraft will look for the invaders(your artilleries and tanks) but I don't mentioned that they will pass the border that's strict So none of mine airpower receives damage Also mine every units are far enough from the Baltic sea and out of the range of your bombardment So I will only agree that mine loss will be 10 division(it's still huge), 13 tanks no more than it |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Sept 28, 2021 16:05:31 GMT
Wait where did you say that(you are building anti air guns) Remember in such case you can't edit your previous post And I already mentioned I have the fortifications far from leningard(say 7km) then how your artillery can fire those fortifications by remaining inside leningard And I mentioned mine bombers and fighter aircraft will look for the invaders(your artilleries and tanks) but I don't mentioned that they will pass the border that's strict So none of mine airpower receives damage Also mine every units are far enough from the Baltic sea and out of the range of your bombardment So I will only agree that mine loss will be 10 division, 13 tanks no more than it I didn't, I recall saying in a previous post that I had installed anti-air guns in Leningrad Your fortifications may be 7 km away from Leningrad, but historically artillery in WW2 had an effective range of 15 km, so your fortifications near Leningrad are still destroyed. Since you didn't pass the border, I agree that your airpower shouldn't take damage. But your tank and infantry casualties should stay. Especially since you said you used artillery against us, but my units were already engaged against your units (you didn't retreat from Gatchina), so your artillery barrage caused collateral damage to both sides. |
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Post by Captain on Sept 28, 2021 16:09:09 GMT
Darth Nihilus can you provide me a map here with the name of those cities (of both Soviets' and Germany) Then it will be more easier to identify their exact locations
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Sept 28, 2021 16:09:46 GMT
I offer a temporary 6-hour ceasefire to Captain (mostly cause I'm gonna be offline for now) so we can recoup our losses and re-establish where our front lines are. |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Sept 28, 2021 16:10:22 GMT
Darth Nihilus can you provide me a map here with the name of those cities (of both Soviets' and Germany) Sure, I'll edit this comment here once I have a map done. If you disagree on anything you can quote me as well. |
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Post by Captain on Sept 28, 2021 16:19:43 GMT
Only for PortDon't you think, you should ask for your navy(at least a small navy,if he denied) to Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov, I mean you must ask him I am also with you,my friend!!! Navy is necessary to fight Northern Soviets' group, their navy is larger than mine, but we two can defeat him |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Sept 28, 2021 16:20:01 GMT
Darth Nihilus can you provide me a map here with the name of those cities (of both Soviets' and Germany) Then it will be more easier to identify their exact locations OK, I made a map that's approximately accurate to our front line positions (the grey line is our current border). Currently we're fighting for Gatchina and Kirishi. I tried to attack Kingisepp but the attack was repulsed with heavy casualties. My navy's bombarding the outskirts of Gatchina, but Gatchina is just outside the range of my navy artillery (but inside the range of the artillery that I have in Leningrad). The dotted line is approximately the border of our navy units (I don't know where you retreated your navy to exactly) Keep in mind I'm also sending troops to Sosnovy Bor, Veliky Novgorod, and Pskov (which is just outside the south-western corner of this map)  |
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Post by Captain on Sept 28, 2021 16:22:21 GMT
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Post by Captain on Sept 28, 2021 16:23:03 GMT
Darth Nihilus can you provide me a map here with the name of those cities (of both Soviets' and Germany) Then it will be more easier to identify their exact locations OK, I made a map that's approximately accurate to our front line positions (the grey line is our current border). Currently we're fighting for Gatchina and Kirishi. I tried to attack Kingisepp but the attack was repulsed with heavy casualties. My navy's bombarding the outskirts of Gatchina, but Gatchina is just outside the range of my navy artillery (but inside the range of the artillery that I have in Leningrad). The dotted line is approximately the border of our navy units (I don't know where you retreated your navy to exactly) Keep in mind I'm also sending troops to Sosnovy Bor, Veliky Novgorod, and Pskov (which is just outside the south-western corner of this map) You are claiming a huge area that's not right I think moskovsky district is under mine area We still not fight for that portion but you reach far inside |
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Post by Captain on Sept 28, 2021 16:28:47 GMT
it has been 15 hours and the USSR has retaken the cities of Veliky Novgorod (which was unguarded) and Sosnovy Bor (which was also unguarded). We now turn our attention to the Baltic countries. Our navy has cleared all mines in the Gulf of Finland up to Sosnovy Bor. We land 10 divisions in Sosnovy Bor, and 300 tanks, and along with 200 fighters we make our way towards Narva. We will reach Narva in 6 hours. We send an additional 5 divisions and 3 tanks to Veliky Novgorod, and move 3 divisions from Veliky Novgorod to Pskov. We will arrive in 10 hours. Currently: 10 divisions at Sosnovy Bor, 5 divisions moving to Veliky, 2 divisions at Veliky, 3 divisions moving to Pskov. Finland has joined the war! In response, we send 65 divisions, 500 tanks, and 3 destroyers to form a defensive line from Vyborg to Kuznechnoye. We build anti-air guns which will reduce the efficacy of enemy air attacks by 15%, and each enemy aircraft has a 5% chance of being shot down. Our remaining 77 divisions and 3345 tanks stay at our defensive line from Gatchina to Kirishi. Our navy cannot provide artillery support at this range so we move 300 bombers, 200 fighters, and 250 ground assault aircraft towards our front lines. The remaining 118 bombers, 183 fighters, and 150 ground assault aircraft stay in Leningrad. Construction of anti-air artilleries has finished at the southern front. The artilleries will reduce enemy damage by 25%, and each aircraft has a 10% chance of being shot down. I would request to you to not attack Finland until he knows our position Just wander you joined a RP and someone (few hours later) declears war on you |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Sept 28, 2021 16:29:32 GMT
You are claiming a huge area that's not right I think moskovsky district is under mine area We still not fight for that portion but you reach far inside Oh, yeah, I wanted to smooth out the lines, but I guess I smoothed them out too much lol. Is this better?  |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Sept 28, 2021 16:30:33 GMT
I would request to you to not attack Finland until he knows our position Just wander you joined a RP and someone (few hours later) declears war on you Oh, don't worry, I'm only moving units to Vyborg as a precautionary measure. I'm not gonna invade Finland unless they invade us first. Vyborg is inside my territory, I think. |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Sept 28, 2021 16:33:46 GMT
I think when doing RPs we have to perform reality checks on our attacks, so I listed a few: 1. The most effective anti-air artilleries only ended up destroying about 35% of all targets encountered, and that was the US artilleries against kamikaze pilots. I'd say a normal range should be around 10% or so. 2. The max speed of tanks was about 40 km/h, which results in about 200 km of travel per day. Infantry can probably travel around 10 km/h on average (160 km a day if you don't rest at all), and ships can travel about 65 km/h (and a long enough range that you don't have to worry about refuelling) 3. It took about 9 years to build the Maginot Line in France, which had about 5000 forts that spanned 450 km. That's about 1.5 forts per day or about 150 m worth of forts. 4. Fighters can probably fly about 500 km/h, and bombers can probably fly around 300 km/h. The max range of these planes was about 1000 km one way (500 for a round-trip) 5. During the battle of Stalingrad, which was one of the most vicious battles of WW2, about 12 000 people died every day. That's about 1 division every day. You shouldn't be able to destroy 15 or even 5 of someone else's divisions within 24 hours (unless they are encircled and they surrender, of course) One thing though. Time is usually measured in pages, not real time. |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Sept 28, 2021 16:35:54 GMT
One thing though. Time is usually measured in pages, not real time. Oh, ok. I guess just change hours to half-pages or something then lol |
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