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Oct 6, 2021 20:32:07 GMT
Post by CountVonNumenor on Oct 6, 2021 20:32:07 GMT
It has been quite a while since my last contribution to this area of the server. Some may have thought I am gone, but no-one's ever really gone. Anyway, as the title suggests, I ma stuck in solving a problem. Until somewhere in May this year, I felt like having much more energy in drawing, However, since that, I have felt a huge lack of morale, combined with real world stress and other things that have lead to me not being able to do anything to be satisfied with ever since. The following image presents perfectly the 10 points I have gone through, have identified as weak point, yet which I cannot get out of no matter how much I try. situation in all its glory If there is anything I may have forgotten to add, I will come back and either complete this original post or add a new reply
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Post by John Marston on Oct 7, 2021 15:56:38 GMT
It has been quite a while since my last contribution to this area of the server. Some may have thought I am gone, but no-one's ever really gone. Anyway, as the title suggests, I ma stuck in solving a problem. Until somewhere in May this year, I felt like having much more energy in drawing, However, since that, I have felt a huge lack of morale, combined with real world stress and other things that have lead to me not being able to do anything to be satisfied with ever since. The following image presents perfectly the 10 points I have gone through, have identified as weak point, yet which I cannot get out of no matter how much I try. situation in all its glory If there is anything I may have forgotten to add, I will come back and either complete this original post or add a new reply Don't know if these might work, but my suggestions nonetheless. 1) TBH, I've had this feeling lately. It might be because you're too focused on something else (Maybe it's something more important than drawing). In that case, look out for a stress buster. Listen to music as it clears my mind and makes me feel fresh. 2) Set yourself SMART goals (Specific; Measurable; Achieavable; Realistic; Timebound). For example, instead of planning like "I'm going to practice Math (Let's say) today", plan it like "I'm going to practice 20 problems today". 3, 4) I think you probably need a slowdown, probably from what you're doing lately. 5) Try taking a break maybe? Whenever I feel like I'm losing all the fun in something I like (Say, studying History for example), then I take a break from it and do something different. 6) Some more description on where you're wrong? I myself am a student and I might help out you, as might many others here 7) Is that your job? 9) It's completely fine man! We've all been there isn't it? Ask Darth Nihilus too I myself am just 'ok' at Math and take some time to grasp the concepts. If it's important, then just keep trying or else if it's not important and not worth your time, then leave it. 10) Try finishing a challenging drawing. It gives you the motivation to complete the drawing, a proper direction and some confidence too.
All in all, I think that you're - a) Going too fast somewhere. Slow down b) Overdoing drawing. Try another hobby. Start playing ET games again maybe c) Worrying too much about something. STOP THAT! IT'S POISONOUS! I worried too much about my studies recently (At one point, I lost my appetite, lost fun in things I loved and what not), but things have changed now. d) You need motivation. Have good support system around yourself. Try talking your problems with near and dear. Do reach out to us in case you think we can help
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Oct 7, 2021 16:09:28 GMT
Don't know if these might work, but my suggestions nonetheless. 1) TBH, I've had this feeling lately. It might be because you're too focused on something else (Maybe it's something more important than drawing). In that case, look out for a stress buster. Listen to music as it clears my mind and makes me feel fresh. 2) Set yourself SMART goals (Specific; Measurable; Achieavable; Realistic; Timebound). For example, instead of planning like "I'm going to practice Math (Let's say) today", plan it like "I'm going to practice 20 problems today". 3, 4) I think you probably need a slowdown, probably from what you're doing lately. 5) Try taking a break maybe? Whenever I feel like I'm losing all the fun in something I like (Say, studying History for example), then I take a break from it and do something different. 6) Some more description on where you're wrong? I myself am a student and I might help out you, as might many others here :D 7) Is that your job? 9) It's completely fine man! We've all been there isn't it? Ask Darth Nihilus too ;) I myself am just 'ok' at Math and take some time to grasp the concepts. If it's important, then just keep trying or else if it's not important and not worth your time, then leave it. 10) Try finishing a challenging drawing. It gives you the motivation to complete the drawing, a proper direction and some confidence too.
All in all, I think that you're - a) Going too fast somewhere. Slow down b) Overdoing drawing. Try another hobby. Start playing ET games again maybe :D c) Worrying too much about something. STOP THAT! IT'S POISONOUS! I worried too much about my studies recently (At one point, I lost my appetite, lost fun in things I loved and what not), but things have changed now. d) You need motivation. Have good support system around yourself. Try talking your problems with near and dear. Do reach out to us in case you think we can help :) Oh yeah, majoring in physics is a grind, and the important thing to tell yourself is ironically... that it's ok to give up. CountVonNumenor, You don't need to spend 15 years straight on a problem, so that you can create a project that's as good as a renaissance painting. Sometimes a problem is too much for you and you'll just have to take a break. If you do something for too long, you'll start hating it. Force yourself to take breaks every once in a while As humans we are designed to worry, especially when things are out of our control. The best way I tell myself to not worry is by saying "hey, you can't control what's happening anyway, so what's the point of worrying? Just adapt to the situation". Now, this probably doesn't work for everyone, and anxiety is a very serious problem. You'll need to sometimes fight against your brain when it decides to worry. I completely agree with all of John Marston 's points. Try looking at art from another angle. Instead of doing full drawings, maybe watch some cartoons, see something that you want to draw, and do a quick sketch of it in less than 5 minutes. Do not spend any more time than that. If you don't understand how a drawing service works, then try to learn it for 1 hour, without any distractions. If you're still stuck after an hour, it may be too advanced and you might want to switch to a more user-friendly app. Don't set deadlines for yourself. If your drawing's incomplete, so be it! And don't be afraid to break your own procedures, drawing is an art, and rules are designed to be broken!
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Oct 7, 2021 16:14:09 GMT
Post by John Marston on Oct 7, 2021 16:14:09 GMT
As humans, we are designed to procrastinate. It's ok to do that once in a while, completely ok if it's your hobby. We've all done procrastinating. Here's something which has a very interesting take on procrastination.
Gosh! I loved it!
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Post by CountVonNumenor on Oct 9, 2021 19:03:56 GMT
John Marston, Darth Nihilus, first of all, thank you for your replies. It has been quite a while since I have been engaged in a conversation on this forum, so it makes things more interesting. Anyway, here are some answers in relation to your questions: 1) I have actually been taking breaks in the past months, and barely did anything. I had taken so many, or least such long breaks that I grew concerned I could not get back into doing it 2) about points 6 and 7, here is a 2-part answer - a) by studying the wrong way, I mean the way of how I have been exercising different things in making my drawing better. Trying to do it through self-teaching has ended up with an year of chaotic work, in which I did not actually get things the way I was looking for, and could not coordinate my efforts into slowly, but steading adding bit by bit in drawing better and with an element of constancy. For the teacher/mentor part, it refers to me usually having an easier time learning when I have things organized, as well as someone to organize me like back in school
- b) by not being used to the tools I am working with, I mean the device (graphic tablet), and have not got used yet to all the hidden tricks of the drawing software (most of the time, Krita). I have a drawing pad that connects to the laptop, so each time I draw I have to focus on the laptop screen due to the tablet not having a screen of its own, and that leads to me having a lot of trouble in trying to draw straight lines (or lines in general)
3) it is not my job; just a hobby I ended up treating way too seriously 4) trying to finish a challenging drawing is not a bad idea. The only problem though is that I tend to overambition myself and make things way more complicated than than they should be, which in the end leads to frustration when things do not go my way 5) I may also be going way too fast, and so reach the art-block stage way too quickly and after a couple drawings. The past 6 months have been characterized by intense periods of drawing, followed by long breaks due not being satisfied anymore of how my stuff looks like, followed by another period of intense drawing and repeat. I will add some images regarding art progress in the past (almost) couple years to show a bit what I mean (there will only be the drawing regarding human beings/characters, since that is the area I am complaining about the most - WARNING: modern Japanese style drawings in case anyone would get triggered) If there is anything else, just ask me Summary for the year 2020 Summary for 2020 + 2021 (until April)(outdated) Summary for 2021 (until October)
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Oct 10, 2021 5:18:37 GMT
Post by John Marston on Oct 10, 2021 5:18:37 GMT
CountVonNumenor, if you feel uncomfortable with the drawing pad (I know it's a bit clumsy as even my teachers use them in classes), try starting with a simple drawing, and increase the level slowly. It takes time to adapt. My teachers weren't even able to write properly on the first day (During online classes) when they used that device. But now they use it as fluently as they do on a whiteboard. Also, coming to point 4, try doing that extremely tough drawing, which you've been longing to do, but couldn't for whatever reason. And if you finish it, you'll get some motivation and pleasure in drawing. And make sure you don't hurry it. It's ok if you do it late. No human is a non-procastinator and it's not the end of the world if you do it late Also, look for some other hobbies too.
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Oct 22, 2021 12:26:46 GMT
Post by CountVonNumenor on Oct 22, 2021 12:26:46 GMT
John Marston, I would try that, but I feel like I should be drawing something too. I do have two games I got back to playing recently (Hearts of Iron IV, Medieval II Total War and Touhou 7), while also enjoying music. However, I feel like it would not be enough.
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Post by Saltin on Oct 23, 2021 22:23:12 GMT
CountVonNumenor , hi I am glad you are still with us, I have enjoyed reading a few of your postings and artistic material. I myself am not a particularly religious person but this below had a big impact in positively changing the way I view the world. In other words there are things in yourself.. flaws and defects and imperfections that will never change,you will carry them with you as long as you stand. You are not alone in doing this, we all do, we all are carry unpleasant baggage we rather get rid off. The good news is often times these flaws can eventually be turned into assets or can be made to have a positive impact in your life but it's not always obvious just how to do that or how to get to that point. So best strategy here imo is just to concentrate on the easier flaws to work on and just do one (and only one) project at the time because it's so easy to fall into the temptation to take on much more than you can handle. Build a new [you] one tiny step at the time. We don't have the technology to reinvinte ourselves top to bottom like really quick. I wish we did I would be the first in line to do that
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Oct 26, 2021 19:57:21 GMT
I found Seneca's "Letters from a Stoic" to be hugely inspirational for me.
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Oct 29, 2021 22:48:23 GMT
Post by CountVonNumenor on Oct 29, 2021 22:48:23 GMT
I think I may have grown way too lazy and my burnout is just as awful yesterday, my only true break day in the week, I did not manage to do anything out of what I had planned neither play some Touhou, nor draw and the drawing part really bothers me I feel like being burnt whenever I think of picking that pen and do something always caught myself busy with something else, end ended up not doing what I was looking for I mean I could spend some time and play with drawing concepts and ideas and use Catherine (my OC) as some sort of Guinee pig for it I just constantly feel tired or out of mood for doing anything though, and day by day life sucks all that will out of me
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Oct 31, 2021 13:32:06 GMT
Post by John Marston on Oct 31, 2021 13:32:06 GMT
I think I may have grown way too lazy and my burnout is just as awful yesterday, my only true break day in the week, I did not manage to do anything out of what I had planned neither play some Touhou, nor draw and the drawing part really bothers me I feel like being burnt whenever I think of picking that pen and do something always caught myself busy with something else, end ended up not doing what I was looking for I mean I could spend some time and play with drawing concepts and ideas and use Catherine (my OC) as some sort of Guinee pig for it I just constantly feel tired or out of mood for doing anything though, and day by day life sucks all that will out of me Do whatever you like in doing untill you get bored of it and start drawing again. Also, do you feel like not doing 'anything'?
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Nov 26, 2021 23:47:47 GMT
Post by CountVonNumenor on Nov 26, 2021 23:47:47 GMT
Anyway, after one week in which it seemed to go well, things are going again into worse. And I think it also started affecting me, as just another weight to the already adding up hardships of real life.
I tend to be too serious in general I really want my Maribel Hearn (and any other drawing) to look beautiful Maybe it's a coping mechanism? For the fact I'm a failure at social interaction, don't have a GF and so have fallen so low to liking fictional stuff (call it waifu if you want) and wanting to draw them as nicely as possible on order to dignify them. If it does not look good, I feel like bringing shame and disappointing not just everyone else, but myself How low I have fallen as a human being...
I feel quite ashamed Turning an activity I like into something like that, and so just creating myself shame and frustration when I fail or it does not look the way I wanted it to be
Also, to quote from another discussion I had with someone on a similar problem yesterday: "I guess both of us are blind to our own works and cannot see how much we improved ourselves if there is any improvement Plus, we may compare ourselves to higher level artists with more experience, and stupidly start wondering why our stuff is not as good Plus again, at least in my case, I think I have forgotten that I'm primarily drawing for myself, not for the others. Not for Internet appreciation, not for money, not for anything else. I am purely drawing for my own interest"
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2021 0:36:21 GMT
Anyway, after one week in which it seemed to go well, things are going again into worse. And I think it also started affecting me, as just another weight to the already adding up hardships of real life.
I tend to be too serious in general I really want my Maribel Hearn (and any other drawing) to look beautiful Maybe it's a coping mechanism? For the fact I'm a failure at social interaction, don't have a GF and so have fallen so low to liking fictional stuff (call it waifu if you want) and wanting to draw them as nicely as possible on order to dignify them. If it does not look good, I feel like bringing shame and disappointing not just everyone else, but myself How low I have fallen as a human being...
I feel quite ashamed Turning an activity I like into something like that, and so just creating myself shame and frustration when I fail or it does not look the way I wanted it to be
Also, to quote from another discussion I had with someone on a similar problem yesterday: "I guess both of us are blind to our own works and cannot see how much we improved ourselves if there is any improvement Plus, we may compare ourselves to higher level artists with more experience, and stupidly start wondering why our stuff is not as good Plus again, at least in my case, I think I have forgotten that I'm primarily drawing for myself, not for the others. Not for Internet appreciation, not for money, not for anything else. I am purely drawing for my own interest" Life sucks you know. I'm not claiming to understand your struggles, but i have my own struggles, and it's a pain. They aren't as bad as yours,they're mostly just me wasting too much time reading, thinking of how to influence people and society around me, and trying to understand more. Also, being addicted to European war 5, it's my cocaine. As for social interactions,trust me, we all are bad at social interactions. Even those good at them are bad. All i can say is, the majority of the time, no one really cares what you say provided it isn't too inflammatory. Obsessing over the details of the words you say doesn't matter. Although tbf, being an effective communicator is complicated, so I can't answer everything about that. For the main point, you and feeling bad about not having a perfect drawings. Instead of focusing on the imperfections, why not focus more on the act? What i mean is, instead of focusing on seeing the flaws of your work, wouldn't it be better to focus on th fact that you are drawing, that you can do what most peope can't draw? The best way to dignify your drawings is to continue doing drawing . It might feel bad sometimes, you might feel like quitting, you might ask yourself: why bother? But you should keep drawing, no matter what. Keep drawing, don't stop. Also,try drawing for others sometimes. It's a good way to challenge yourself and your boundaries. Don't treat what i say as some great advice tho. I don't know you and giving accurate advice is hard on the internet . Have this for motivation:
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Post by 𝘛𝘳𝘰𝘵𝘴𝘬𝘺 on Nov 27, 2021 19:14:23 GMT
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