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Post by stoic on Nov 22, 2021 15:19:41 GMT
But you have to attack someone to refill it...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2021 15:24:31 GMT
But you have to attack someone to refill it... I'll do some tests on him. Cavalry can't really kill easily against harder opponents, so alex and his increased rage regen would be great for proccing aegis early. Although this is only for Arena,and it's probably easier to just refresh enemies, so i'll see. I'll still invest in arena after all of pve is handled,in case they expand on the pvp aspect more. For pve,it's all about that leadership. |
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Post by stoic on Nov 22, 2021 15:29:54 GMT
But you have to attack someone to refill it... I'll do some tests on him. Cavalry can't really kill easily against harder opponents, so alex and his increased rage regen would be great for proccing aegis early. Although this is only for Arena,and it's probably easier to just refresh enemies, so i'll see. I'll still invest in arena after all of pve is handled,in case they expand on the pvp aspect more. For pve,it's all about that leadership. Don't put him in the centre though, because he will be attacked on all sides. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2021 16:23:36 GMT
I'll do some tests on him. Cavalry can't really kill easily against harder opponents, so alex and his increased rage regen would be great for proccing aegis early. Although this is only for Arena,and it's probably easier to just refresh enemies, so i'll see. I'll still invest in arena after all of pve is handled,in case they expand on the pvp aspect more. For pve,it's all about that leadership. Don't put him in the centre though, because he will be attacked on all sides. Charlemagne center arena meta  . |
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Post by stoic on Nov 22, 2021 16:50:37 GMT
Don't put him in the centre though, because he will be attacked on all sides. Charlemagne center arena meta . In fact I wouldn't be envious to anyone who takes the place in the centre Probably Barbarossa is the best choice, because he can place a couple of Leadership debuffs before he goes... |
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Post by stoic on Nov 22, 2021 16:52:04 GMT
Oh, I have found a better candidate! Suleiman the Magnificent is great to take this position. Best defence in the game, damage reduction by 40%, rumor... A lot of investments though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2021 23:43:12 GMT
Oh, I have found a better candidate! Suleiman the Magnificent is great to take this position. Best defence in the game, damage reduction by 40%, rumor... A lot of investments though. I think he could. But Charlemagne is funnier resilient to both archers and artillery,so he probably would be the better center. I would eventually invest in Charlemagne just to see how good he is when given the investment. It's also annoying how i now need another artillery general, cleo was doing great,until even she can't take out 2 castles with massive hp. |
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Post by stoic on Nov 23, 2021 3:18:21 GMT
Oh, I have found a better candidate! Suleiman the Magnificent is great to take this position. Best defence in the game, damage reduction by 40%, rumor... A lot of investments though. I think he could. But Charlemagne is funnier resilient to both archers and artillery,so he probably would be the better center. I would eventually invest in Charlemagne just to see how good he is when given the investment. It's also annoying how i now need another artillery general, cleo was doing great,until even she can't take out 2 castles with massive hp. Yep, Artillery is of great help in many missions. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2021 4:51:39 GMT
I think he could. But Charlemagne is funnier resilient to both archers and artillery,so he probably would be the better center. I would eventually invest in Charlemagne just to see how good he is when given the investment. It's also annoying how i now need another artillery general, cleo was doing great,until even she can't take out 2 castles with massive hp. Yep, Artillery is of great help in many missions. I'n thinking of just going for Khalid,Cleo and Bismarck in the mean time. I don't think it's worth spending a lot of medals for li shimin, his medal cost slows down progress,medals which could have been spent of skill upgrades like leadership and commander skills. Unless he's so good that he's necessary for some missions,i won't get him until the only thing i'm optimizing for is arena. |
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Post by stoic on Nov 23, 2021 5:04:19 GMT
Yep, Artillery is of great help in many missions. I'n thinking of just going for Khalid,Cleo and Bismarck in the mean time. I don't think it's worth spending a lot of medals for li shimin, his medal cost slows down progress,medals which could have been spent of skill upgrades like leadership and commander skills. Unless he's so good that he's necessary for some missions,i won't get him until the only thing i'm optimizing for is arena. By no means LiShimin is a must. I completed the game on one occasion with Khalid and Bismarck, and with Khalid and Heihachiro on another. LiShimin has one serious advantage though... He can be our sole Artillery general most of the time. Yet, as I said, he can be replaced with other generals with good results. Yet, again, as I said earlier, Commander skill is of paramount importance late in the game, so, make sure that you have either Khalid or Heihachiro at some point. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2021 5:11:54 GMT
I'n thinking of just going for Khalid,Cleo and Bismarck in the mean time. I don't think it's worth spending a lot of medals for li shimin, his medal cost slows down progress,medals which could have been spent of skill upgrades like leadership and commander skills. Unless he's so good that he's necessary for some missions,i won't get him until the only thing i'm optimizing for is arena. By no means LiShimin is a must. I completed the game on one occasion with Khalid and Bismarck, and with Khalid and Heihachiro on another. LiShimin has one serious advantage though... He can be our sole Artillery general most of the time. Yet, as I said, he can be replaced with other generals with good results. Aye,i'll never buy him then(maybe in a few months for a test run). Same with Blucher. If there are cheaper alternatives that work,then why bother with the expensive ones? It doesn't help that skill level also matter a lot, and their upgrade costs are really high. I really can't justify buying gold generals,maybe aside from Caesar in early game. If Bismarck didn't exist,then i would have considered buying him. But i'm saving medals to upgrade Suri and jhansi,and max out my commander and leadership skills, so even in that alternate scenario,i would skip buying Li Shimin. |
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Post by stoic on Nov 23, 2021 5:19:52 GMT
By no means LiShimin is a must. I completed the game on one occasion with Khalid and Bismarck, and with Khalid and Heihachiro on another. LiShimin has one serious advantage though... He can be our sole Artillery general most of the time. Yet, as I said, he can be replaced with other generals with good results. Aye,i'll never buy him then(maybe in a few months for a test run). Same with Blucher. If there are cheaper alternatives that work,then why bother with the expensive ones? It doesn't help that skill level also matter a lot, and their upgrade costs are really high. I really can't justify buying gold generals,maybe aside from Caesar in early game. If Bismarck didn't exist,then i would have considered buying him. But i'm saving medals to upgrade Suri and jhansi,and max out my commander and leadership skills, so even in that alternate scenario,i would skip buying Li Shimin. He's one of the most expensive generals in the game, that's for sure... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2021 5:32:00 GMT
Aye,i'll never buy him then(maybe in a few months for a test run). Same with Blucher. If there are cheaper alternatives that work,then why bother with the expensive ones? It doesn't help that skill level also matter a lot, and their upgrade costs are really high. I really can't justify buying gold generals,maybe aside from Caesar in early game. If Bismarck didn't exist,then i would have considered buying him. But i'm saving medals to upgrade Suri and jhansi,and max out my commander and leadership skills, so even in that alternate scenario,i would skip buying Li Shimin. He's one of the most expensive generals in the game, that's for sure... Too expensive to consider early on. Or even in the late game. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2021 10:58:09 GMT
It seems that there's another difficulty spike in the German empire due to the number of objectives needed to defeat. Having 2 artillery general will definitely help moving forward.
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Post by stoic on Nov 23, 2021 11:44:37 GMT
It seems that there's another difficulty spike in the German empire due to the number of objectives needed to defeat. Having 2 artillery general will definitely help moving forward. In Industrial age campaigns there are definitely several missions when at least two Artillery generals are really helpful. And in some hard mode campaigns or Empire/Asgard/Temple missions even three of them won't hurt. |
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