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Post by alexandrvasilevski on Dec 8, 2021 5:34:15 GMT
Russia was able to mass produce, while Germany couldn't. That, and Russian generals found ways to neutralize the blitzkrieg by going really close to the enemy, which makes it so air raids would also hit their allies if they did any bombings. Honestly, if Stalin didn't purge Russia of it's more experienced generals, Russia would've came out of top much earlier. But yeah, Hitler's invasion was always doomed to fail. Sorry for my arrogant answer, I couldn't resist myself. That was really the case only in Stalingrad. The victory was a result of countless factors. The great purge did have unarguably a great negative effect on the Soviet war effort, but in the beginning of the war before the formation of STAVKA, the command structure was all messed up, nobody could make fast decisions in the high command. In the field Stalin's politruks were a real headache making decisions difficult. Then not only mass production, the Axis had a numerical superiority on the front in the beginning of the war, this of course changed. Also, the Soviet airforce had been destroyed in the first hours of the war and despite numerical superiority of tanks for the Soviets, the incompetence of tank crews to fix minor mechanical failures in tanks and the lack of supply vehicles forced the Soviets to abandon thousands of tanks. Then last but not least Stalin's idiotic tactics and idiotic tactics in general in the beginning of the war. Stalin wasn’t responsible for tactics. He listened to other Stavka members even in questions of general strategy and published only a pair of directives regarding tactics. Maybe I should make a theoretical thread about strategy, tactics and command systems of Germany and USSR. |
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Post by alexandrvasilevski on Dec 8, 2021 5:37:15 GMT
Returning to the subject of this thread: I would agree with Gerd von Rundstedt about Jesus Christ and consider Thales from Milet (founder of classical science tradition) as the second most important person in history. |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Dec 8, 2021 6:48:18 GMT
Sorry for my arrogant answer, I couldn't resist myself. That was really the case only in Stalingrad. The victory was a result of countless factors. The great purge did have unarguably a great negative effect on the Soviet war effort, but in the beginning of the war before the formation of STAVKA, the command structure was all messed up, nobody could make fast decisions in the high command. In the field Stalin's politruks were a real headache making decisions difficult. Then not only mass production, the Axis had a numerical superiority on the front in the beginning of the war, this of course changed. Also, the Soviet airforce had been destroyed in the first hours of the war and despite numerical superiority of tanks for the Soviets, the incompetence of tank crews to fix minor mechanical failures in tanks and the lack of supply vehicles forced the Soviets to abandon thousands of tanks. Then last but not least Stalin's idiotic tactics and idiotic tactics in general in the beginning of the war. Stalin wasn’t responsible for tactics. He listened to other Stavka members even in questions of general strategy and published only a pair of directives regarding tactics. Maybe I should make a theoretical thread about strategy, tactics and command systems of Germany and USSR. Yeah, tactics was the wrong word I used. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2021 7:48:30 GMT
Sorry for my arrogant answer, I couldn't resist myself. That was really the case only in Stalingrad. The victory was a result of countless factors. The great purge did have unarguably a great negative effect on the Soviet war effort, but in the beginning of the war before the formation of STAVKA, the command structure was all messed up, nobody could make fast decisions in the high command. In the field Stalin's politruks were a real headache making decisions difficult. Then not only mass production, the Axis had a numerical superiority on the front in the beginning of the war, this of course changed. Also, the Soviet airforce had been destroyed in the first hours of the war and despite numerical superiority of tanks for the Soviets, the incompetence of tank crews to fix minor mechanical failures in tanks and the lack of supply vehicles forced the Soviets to abandon thousands of tanks. Then last but not least Stalin's idiotic tactics and idiotic tactics in general in the beginning of the war. Stalin wasn’t responsible for tactics. He listened to other Stavka members even in questions of general strategy and published only a pair of directives regarding tactics. Maybe I should make a theoretical thread about strategy, tactics and command systems of Germany and USSR. Tbf, if you're scared to tell the truth to someone and only tell them what they want to hear, they pretty much made the decision and you're just hyping them up. |
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Post by Ludwig von Mises on Feb 23, 2022 2:18:23 GMT
I gotta say, I’m quite surprised yet proud of the person who voted George Orwell. Also, the guy who thought a shiny piece of metal would do good as a currency was important, since he or she started the trend known as “Capitalism.” Also, the person who thought worshipping a rock was fun changed history too.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Feb 23, 2022 13:54:13 GMT
I gotta say, I’m quite surprised yet proud of the person who voted George Orwell. Also, the guy who thought a shiny piece of metal would do good as a currency was important, since he or she started the trend known as “Capitalism.” Also, the person who thought worshipping a rock was fun changed history too. What do you mean by the last sentence? The rise of polytheism? |
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Post by Don Quixote de la Mancha on Feb 24, 2022 2:41:50 GMT
Napoléon !
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Feb 24, 2022 13:43:48 GMT
Jesus!
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Post by John Marston on Feb 26, 2022 13:21:59 GMT
I gotta say, I’m quite surprised yet proud of the person who voted George Orwell.  Are you being rogue here? No offense, but I have no idea why you voted him? I'm just being curious. Sorry if I hurt you. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Feb 28, 2022 1:10:14 GMT
But those failures of Marxist ideology are very important historically.
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Mar 1, 2022 6:14:22 GMT
Are you being rogue here? No offense, but I have no idea why you voted him? I'm just being curious. Sorry if I hurt you. Because two of them are just overrated. Karl Marx's theories have failed literally everywhere they were implemented. Napoleon is overrated. Sure, he was a great military commander, but that's it, he had no other significant achievements. His Empire fell apart in merely 10 years. Napoleonic Code are not the first civil legal framework nor is it the only one that inspires today's legal framework. Ancient Greeks, Romans, English and USA had that before them. I think 1984 is slightly better than printing press, though both of them are revolutionary in their respective fields. If I would have to rank the above 4, I would do that in this order. 1. George Orwell 2. Gutenberg (a close second) 3. Napoleon L. Karl Marx Orwell was a socialist writer. Without the printing press and Marx's theories, he would've not been the socialist writer we know. Also, there would have not been the Soviet Union to make satire about. Also, I don't think the books made that much of an impact on world history. |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Mar 1, 2022 20:17:23 GMT
Orwell was a socialist writer. Without the printing press and Marx's theories, he would've not been the socialist writer we know. Also, there would have not been the Soviet Union to make satire about. Also, I don't think the books made that much of an impact on world history. Well, Socialist theories were there even before Marx. Also, 1984 is not a socialist writing. Gutenberg invented the modern printing press, but if he wouldn't have invented, then someone else would have done that. He did not create that out of thin air. 1984 demonstrates it how information is used rulers to maintain their authority. You can see parallels in history, from "Divine right" of monarchs to Republican ideals of the French Revolution, both controlled information. While, press was supposedly free after French Revolution, there was pretty one would be tried of treason or get gulliotined if one spoke against the government. It only changed after fall of Jacobins, and Directory was never able to had the authority, that it predecessors had or successors will have. 1. Yes, it wasn't specifically a socialist writing, but it was influenced by Orwell's anti-authoritarian socialism. 2. Completely agree. 3. I still fail to see it's importance. Anti-authoritarianism has existed long before Orwell and the book hasn't removed goverment control of information. |
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Post by zink on Mar 14, 2022 23:11:38 GMT
Wow this selection is wack
Johannes Gutenberg beats all these guys
Who tf voted for Orwell
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